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Confusion! (Clomid sides or Deca Dick?) Help and advice appreciated

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decasustuser

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Ok so this is kind of an extension of an older thread of mine, but it is a new situation and a new question so I figured I'd post it as a new thread. Hope this is ok. Anyway 3.5 months post deca 200 and sust 250 cycle my doctor started me on 50mg of clomid EOD. Before the clomid I was able to obtain a weak erection in the morning hours with sexual thoughts and pretty easily with self stimulation but was not getting morning wood upon awakening. I also had a low (but existant!) sex drive at that point. I attributed this to the low test I had (which at this point had risen from 76 after 2 months post cycle to 302 at 3 months all without pct) Now 9 days after starting the clomid my libido is slowly returning (although at the start of the clomid it went from being low to non existant) and this morning I woke with morning wood after a sexual dream for the first time since the end of my cycle. Even though I awoke with morning wood, when I am awake I have been unable to obtain an erection with sexual thoughts and it is VERY difficult to even manually stimulate an erection. Also since i have been on the clomid I have had trouble staying asleep and have had nightmares (which i have read both things are common). I guess my question is could the clomid be causing a temporary worsening of ED or is this Deca Dick? and if so could it be permanent? I know that may be a rediculous question and my endo says there is no way after one cycle of steroids (that he considers pretty mild) I could have permanent ED. He assures me that my erections and libido will return in time. Any advice or input? is this normal? Btw I am 21 years of age and this was my first and LAST cycle as it is obvious I am not mentally or physically stable enough to handle gear. Also I am getting on tribulus and unleashed to help increase libido and erections. My main question is what could be causing this inability to get an erection while conscious and is deca dick permanent after one 6 week cycle injecting 1 cc every 5 days? Thanks for your time in advance and I am sorry to bother you guys with these questions. I will say that I really appreciate your time and help and hope to get this matter resolved. Obviously since I have been on clomid it has been an emotional roller coaster so any reassurance wud be great. thanks guys
 
Thank u so much for the response jason. So u r pretty sure that this isn't "deca dick"? I'm just confused bc I woke up with morning wood but can't get one yl awake. Do u think this will stop wn I come off clomid? Also to answer ur question idk wut my test level is up to now, its only been a week of clomid tho. I'm still PATHETIC in the gym and can only squat 1/2 wut I maxed out at b4 the gear. Deca dick isn't permanent tho is it? My endo told me it shudnt have any permanent effect on libido or erections after one short 6 wk cycle. Think he is right?
 
It's obvious to me, though others will disagree. You have a negative feedback loop to CLomid. So do I. Kills my libido faster than a fat chick with herpes.

Do not take triptorelin. It's a testosterone antagonist. I have no idea where that advice came from but it's wrong.

Go off the clomid altogether. Double up on the UNLEASHED. Give it a week. You should feel better by then.
 
another example of a douchebag doc.

cut the clomid down to 12.5mg-25mg ED.

end of story.

50mg+ is gonna give you sides.

in the future don't run deca if you are worried about your pee-pee. its gonna take you a while to get your wood back after deca. totally normal
 
stevesmi said:
another example of a douchebag doc.

cut the clomid down to 12.5mg-25mg ED.

end of story.

50mg+ is gonna give you sides.

in the future don't run deca if you are worried about your pee-pee. its gonna take you a while to get your wood back after deca. totally normal
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But he's not just experiencing sides from too much, he's experience the negative libido crushing effect. So why use it all? It obviously isn't helping.
 
jasondub said:
A negative feedback loop to clomid? Just curious, how does this work?

Triptorelin is not a testosterone antagonist... that statement is absurd. Triptorelin is a GnRH agonist. The only way it will stop testosterone production is by constant usage / stimulation of the pituitary.

The triptorelin advice came from an actual medical study published in the journal of fertility and sterility (where it was used to treat a bodybuilder) and an actual physician that has used it with success on one of his patients just last month (posted about it 2 weeks ago).

If it does in fact work, I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the new 'PCT' relatively soon. A single shot and a full recovery... sounds good to me!

Even if UNLEASHED helps with temporary libido... what happens when he stops using it?
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I would not use Triptorelin.

UNLEASHED is non suppressive. If he stops using it his SHBG will go back to what it would be normally within 48 hours.

Some people process Clomid in the opposite way it's intended. In other words, (simply put) instead of occupying estrogen receptors it ADDS more estrogen -- thus killing libido and causing nasty side effects. It doesn't matter if the dose is high or low. Whatever is used will be a negative experience. Considering the options today, I don;t think it's worth taking, but it works for some people. For someone who obviously has the negative feedback response, it makes no sense.
 
Jump on some HCG and hcgenerate. Add in forma-stanazol or arimidex too.
 
lartinos said:
Jump on some HCG and hcgenerate. Add in forma-stanazol or arimidex too.
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HCG will give a kickstart but if he uses Clomid, he'll be back to square one.

HCGen is best while on, its a little late for that, though it may help.

Forma and dex are both anti e's which may help considering the Clomid probably increased e. Forma is better with progesterone, but can be suppressive if used for too long. At this point, he's got to stabilize.
 
Guys thank u so much for all the input. And yeah when I talked to my doc about hcg he said that that was something he wud give me to right after a cycle or at the end but seeing as how I'm 4 months out with no testicular attrophy he doesn't think that it is neccessary. At 3 months out I had levels of test that were 3/5 my normal (which normal is 500's for me bc I was tested before cycle) but still had no signs of libido improving. Shud I really stop the clomid though? From wut I read the decrease in libido can be from the clomid but since it raises testosterone the libido and erections come back strong after u complete clomid pct. I'm just really scared man. I'm feeling like this deca dick and loss of libido cud b permanent bc iv read so many threads of guys saying there's was. Any input on that? I don't plan on running another cycle of any kind bc I obviously can't handle it. Thanks for the help tho guys. I just wanna recover.
 
Also steve nelson and jason, what's with these threads of guys saying deca dick is permanent? Is that bs or do u think theirs is just lingering bc of other reasons? Just has me really scared and nervous. I mean I only did a total of 8 cc s of deca 200 in a 6 week span. I never thought that wud b nearly enuf to do damage and during that time I ran 10ccs of sust 250 over the 6 week span. The deca was just to help avoid agrevting my knee injury yl on. And now it may have permanently ruined me?! Anyway that's possible? I'm scared shitless
 
bro just stop argueing and run a PCT.

the sooner you run it, the better.. stop listening to your doc. he doesn't understand AAS cycling. HMG, HCG both trick the body into producing more test. they are excellent.

i've run 2 deca cycles and recovered from both.. so just listen to me on this. guys that say its permanent are guys who are on HRT, I am not .. i still cycle.
 
thanks steve. if i can get my hands on either then that is definately what i can do. can i ask one last question tho? even if I cant get the HCG or HMG will my deca dick go away and will i recover? my test is already 4/5 back to what it was but my libido and ED is still suffering. Cud it be being caused by the clomid or is that strictly deca?
 
yes the clomid can effect your libido.

cut the dosage to 12.5mg

it can take a full year for your libido to go back to normal.

this is why i tell young guys who have high test levels or high libido levels naturally to leave steroids for a future time. but everyone is always in a rush.
 
Thanks steve I really appreicate ur time, advice, and insight. So ur saying it definately will return tho right? I'm just scared I'll b impotent for life. But it helps to have the advice and insight of a pro like urself. I promise after this I'll leave u alone tho...so 12.5 mg 3 days a week instead of 50mgs 3 days a week? And this will lead me to a full recovery (but cud take a year)?
 
Are you sure you're 21? Because you're freaking out like a little girl bro. You need to have your estrogen and prolactin checked. One of these has to be out of range if your test is 80% back to normal and you're still having problems.

The genius of a doctor should have already checked these.
 
I assure u I am man I'm just not myself. I know I'm trippin out. As of last month my prolactin was a slightly high but still normal. Idk bout estrogen.
 
Ok bro. You're stressing too much...it won't help anything. Prolactin could still be causing problems if its in the high range. Check your estrogen ASAP and since you're getting blood drawn I'd get them to check prolactin again to see if its coming down.

If you can give us some numbers on these, you'll get better help. Until you get these results back, I'd run forma-stanzol at 5-10 pumps twice daily and Phytoserms-347 @ 2 caps daily. These can only benefit you regardless of the numbers. The clomid doesn't seem to be working, so I'd drop that
 
i agree with several of the guys cut the clomid down until ur completely off it... maybe i missed how long you have takin it but if you have been on it for more then 4 or 6 weeks, some may disagree but, you should be able to drop it completely. order some HCG to keep ur boys pumpin out the test naturally. unleashed and post cycle from NTBM to help bump your libido back up and just take a breath Bro i am sure u are all pumped up with girly emotions cause of your levels being off but relax. if your test came back up the rest should follow once you get everything balanced back out...

also no more Decca than you ran it shoudlnt be permanent not saying deff cause there are tons of variables based on your body... but with a little time you should recoup....
glad you decided to discontinue AAS in the future. I would be more careful with anything you decide to put into your body though man a LITTLE research is a dangerous thing so spend some serious time researching before takin the leap bro...
 
thanks mexico, i am just concerned bc it took me 3 months to get in with the doc (endocrinologist) and he said bc the test had started to come back on its own that hcg would just suppress me further and at 3 months out isnt what i needed. this is when he recommended clomid. he started me on that a week later and now I have only been on clomid for 12 days (3 days a week at 50 mgs) and have only took a total of 7 pills. Should i still drop it? at 4 months out do u think hcg is the answer? I just dont know what to do and yeah im emotional as hell and completely not myself. this is all i can think about and honestly im scared shitless.
 
I think you should listen to your doctor. He knows what he's doing. He studied that in school for years and he knows the ins and outs of that subject.

Doctor + natural supplements that the guys suggested = win.
 
What you need man is making a postciclo with 5000ui hcg and nolvadex

1 week 1000ui every third day and 40mg/day nolvadex

2 weeks 1000ui every third day and nolvadex 20mg daily

3 weeks nolvadex 20mg daily
 
C this is where I'm torn. Some ppl say doc is right and some ppl say he's not. Id like to think he is. Esp since I no longer have a source and don't want to obtain drugs illegally again. If its absolutely neccessary I guess I have no choice but cud someone explain scientifically/medically why? Thanks guys
 
You talked to your doctor about decreasing the dose of clomid?

Your problem is with libido NOT with testoestrone levels, according to you, you said that your test was back 4/5. So your doctor was right about not putting on you HCG as this will suppress your further.

I think your doctor know what he is doing, he is just focusing on returning your hormones levels back and not on your libido, since you'll get your libido back after you discontinue the drug.

However, if I were you, I'd buy HCGgenerate and Unleashed and Phytoserms and take them to fix my hormones IN ADDITION to the doctors instructions. And I would probably get a second opinion from another doctor. And everything will be fine. You will be back in normal so dont worry. It will only take some time so you'll have to wait.
 
doctors are 99% of the time douchebags.. unless you really really know them they don't give a hoot about their clients, just the almighty dollar.

you have too much faith in them bro.. just wait one day when you get sick and they decide to turn you into a guinea pig with their mis diagnosis and you will sing a different tune.

having said that the poster went into a situation ignorantly.. deca and tren are AAS that should not be taken by young guys because it can kill your libido for a full year. if you have good libido then why mess with it? wait till you are older when your libido starts dropping and then start experimenting.

deca's half life is 5 weeks or MORE!! and it can be detected in the body for up to 18 months. those are scary numbers! Ross who is an old poster on here has always said he cares about his sex life more then anything, and thats why he never touches tren or deca.

now at my age I am not all about going out and bagging chicks, so i can take that chance with deca or tren and just deal with no libido.. but you young bucks in your early to mid 20's should try to bag as much ass as possible, so i say leave the tren and deca to us older guys. stick with test, orals, primo, masteron, etc etc.
 
Thanks guys I guess I'll cut back to 25 mgs of clomid 3 days a week as aposed to 50 mgs 4 days a week. Cuz since iv been on it I'm getting like 3 hours of sleep maximum. Its fuckin with my head like no other. This week iv had an increase in libido (about half what it was before aas) but still erection problems. It doesn't get hard on its own but I can work it up to a decent erection. Also last month in vegas wn I got a lap dance at the spearment rhino she got it to work (but that was b4 clomid).

I realize deca and sust was dumb for a first cycle. Like I said I had no knowledge of aas but I trusted my trainer bc we were really tight and he helped guys on an nfl team in my city with steroids. So I trusted him and got burned. Iv experianced hairloss (but not in the form of MPB) and I am starting to get morning wood about every other day but wn conscious I have to stimulate an erection.

Anyway I guess my final questions are a) any chance this erection problem and minimal libido are permanent (regardless of if I finish clomid or use hcg. 2) cud my hair grow back and 3) considering I'm 21 do u think my levels will balance out and I'll return to normal? Again thank u so much guys.
 
bro you keep asking the same questions over and over. enough already. and that wasn't the PCT i told you to do. clomid 3X per week is a weak pct.

nfl players don't use deca which is detectable for up to 18 months. its your job to research your own cycles, don't depend on what a trainer tells you. he is lying.
 
Steve I know bro but if my doc sees iv done that and put more illegal drugs in my body he may drop me. I mean at 4 months out with test levels at 4/5 wut they were before roids (total t I mean) and still low levels of free test and lh and fhs then cudnt the hcg supress it and erase that progress? U told me a yl ago that even with no pct I wud recover in time bc of homeostasis. I mean I'm not worried about keeping my gains I just want my sex life back and my stamina in the gym. My question/concern is it is never coming back. And wn I'm living at hoome w my parents in 2 weeks after my semester is over, I can't exactly order these things and inject myself in our home. Plus I'm skeptical paying with a credit card to research chems. I just wanna know if based on ur knowledge if I'll def get back to normal. I'm ok if it takes a few more months but will it happen? Bc I c so many threads of permanent deca dick where they claim 2 years post cycle it still doesn't work. Its scary to read that bro
 
And also good point on the deca and nfl BUT merriman and cushing did both get caught for nandro (hence y they got busted) but yeah he gave that to me bc of my knee problems and told me it wud b out of my system in one month. (And that cudnt have been more fuckin wrong).
 
Well can I ask 2 more things then? Wut exactly is hmg and where can I get slin pins? Also is there any chance that hair loss comes back since it was just shedding and not male pattern baldness?
 
i've posted about HMG.. do some research on it .. also we have board sponsors that sell slin pins. contact a mod if you are not sure the company.. i use cheappinz

In men, HMG can be used to stimulate natural testosterone production and to keep or restore the natural function of the testes. Those using HMG after testicular dystrophy often report an increase in sex drive and sense of well being as well as an increased rebound in fertility.

HMG is a drug similar to HCG in use and some of its function, but also has the added benefit of FSH stimulation, which triggers extra receptors to produce testosterone. While HCG is known mainly for testicular stimulation, HMG will also increase the amount of sperm the body is producing, which HCG isn’t as effective at. Although it hasn't been around as long and isn't as recognized as HCG, HMG is steadily picking up more interest in the medical community for the roles it can play in testosterone recovery. Those who don't see the results and recovery they want from a typical PCT protocol may find HMG beneficial since it is able to stimulate the body's receptors at a wider range of points than HCG is able to.

HMG can be most effective when ran alongside other LH stimulating drugs such as HCG, clomid, and nolvadex. A typical dose of 75-150iu a day for 2 weeks is sufficient for restoring normal testicular function and sperm count in males. One may also wish to run an anti-estrogen such as aromasin during administration of this drug due to the possibility of elevated estrogen levels.
 
IF you are not wanting to do anything illegal, i would talk to your doctor express your concerns about the Side effect ( have you mentioned them to him?) then see about dropping the dose you havent been on the stuff long i would keep running but tapering down. you are not in a rush for results just answers which is understandable. Steve has a good point on the HMG but if you arent comfortable with it. Dont do it dude... Everything that has happened to you SHOULD be reversed when you return to homeostasis in your body but it most likely will take several more months to be back to 100%... most people with permanent Decca dick ran decca for to long or to hi a dose, (not saying all, so nobody go bashing me plz! but alot of them have) so again. take a breath. talk to your Dr. If he doesnt know you arent sleeping and the other sides your having he cant help you adjust dosage... im not much on relying on doctors but u seam comfortable with yours so make sure you are talking to him about ANY changes... he at least isnt ripping you apart for juicing so he may have some clue whats up adn will help you...he has gotten your natural level up most of the way....
 
Thanks so much mexico and steve. Yeah I told him about the clomid and stuff and he suggested I dropped it all together if I was having all those sides and said since at 3 month my test was half way back he wud reassess at 5 months and 7 months and c if I naturally recover. He said I cud progress on the clomid if I wanted to but those were basically my options right now. Until further bloodwork
 
decasustuser said:
Thanks so much mexico and steve. Yeah I told him about the clomid and stuff and he suggested I dropped it all together if I was having all those sides and said since at 3 month my test was half way back he wud reassess at 5 months and 7 months and c if I naturally recover. He said I cud progress on the clomid if I wanted to but those were basically my options right now. Until further bloodwork
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So he told t=you to stop the clomid because of the sides, but once the sides subside to start it up again? hey, I'm not doctor, but that's pretty retarded advice.

Bottom line: You need to get your HPTA working naturally. The supps do not treat any condition but they help the body recoup on its own faster. Stick with them. You'll get better. It's just going to take a little time. Now you learned your lesson about deca and clomid. I hope.
 
No no sry I explained that wrong. He said for recovery it was best if I stayed on but if the sides (specifically insomnia and being emotional) was too much to handle I cud go back to the natural approach and do nothing and evaluate in a few months via bloodwork. Since its all I got tho I think I'm gonna drop the dose to 25mg and fight thru. He said either way it shud come back but these permanent deca dick stories are haunting my thoughts. Also big thanks to you nelson and can't forget jason. Preciate the support and advice fellas.
 
Phytoserms-347 and forma-stanzol!!!!!!!!!! Phytoserms to help bump up your test and forma-stanzol to lower estrogen and progesterone! They can only help in your situation bro....I'm not a rep for either. Just two good products I've used.
 
decasustuser said:
Thanks guys I'm just scared to death its permanent
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Dude. Stop being a bitch and man up. Learn to leave your emotions aside. It is not permanent. Your cock will work again. Give it some time. You're young, your body with time will restore its normal levels.

In the meantime, everybody is recommending different products and protocols, but how do you know you are targeting the right problem?? A blood test is needed to know specifically what is the issue. If you had a blood test done, ask for a copy and post the results.
 
Ur right man thank u. I get bloodwork in mid may. I'll post it wn I get it done. Last time I had progesterone prolactin e2 lh fsh total test. I don't got a copy of it but everything other than test, lh, and fhs was normal to my knowledge. This time he just wants o test fhs lh and total test. Idk y. Shud I ask for all the other stuff too (esp since I'll b comin off clomid then)?
 
Wow, just read this whole thread. Bro, your problem is you listen to everybody and at the same time you ignore everybody and you are trapped at the bottom of this dark well with a bottle of lotion.

Make a plan, stick with it, chill out and never do roids again. And please don't have kids either. Things will return to normal and I find it extremely hard to believe 6 weeks of use will give you permanent "deca dick".
 
Thanks for taking that time man. Trust me I won't ever touch them again,I did it for baseball and a knee injury but ended up getting hurt again anyway. But yeah its obvious I can't handle the juice (no shit I know) any advice on wut to ask for for blood test? Or is lh fhs total and free test sufficient?
 
well i will say primo cycle i did killed my sex drive.. any AAS can kill it. but my sex drive was never high.. i waited till my very late 20's to run my first cycle and my sex drive was low already. i dunno why young guys with high sex drives would risk killing their libido for crazy muscles.. you can always get into bodybuilding at a later age.. lift weights, and bodybuild naturally. then when you get older use AAS as a weapon, not as a crutch.

you don't HAVE TO kill your libido to achieve a nice body.
 
stevesmi said:
well i will say primo cycle i did killed my sex drive.. any AAS can kill it. but my sex drive was never high.. i waited till my very late 20's to run my first cycle and my sex drive was low already. i dunno why young guys with high sex drives would risk killing their libido for crazy muscles.. you can always get into bodybuilding at a later age.. lift weights, and bodybuild naturally. then when you get older use AAS as a weapon, not as a crutch.

you don't HAVE TO kill your libido to achieve a nice body.
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are you saying it has been killed for good? or this is temporary?
 
no, my sex drive went back to what it was before i started cycling. towards the end of my primo cycle I beleive now the test i switched to was underdosed. so my sex drive the last few weeks of my cycle was dead in the water. I ran a good PCT and things came back. I am past that age where I try to bag every girl i can, today i am focused on other things. so my point is young guys who are chasing pu**y should leave AAS to us older fellers and bodybuild naturally, why risk killing your libido? its very scary getting ready to have sex with a girl and being unsure if you can even get it up, and then her thinking you aren't attracted to her.
 
guys quick update. After being on clomid for 3 weeks @ 50 mgs EOD, the doctor took me off it and my levels of testosterone were tested 3 days later. the level was 608 which is over 100 points higher than my test of 504 before any use of steroids. Since stopping the clomid, my sexual function has improved (and is about 55-60% what it was before AAS), my depression has subsided for the most part, and I am finally able to sleep again. My question is what do you guys think is still causing the supression of sex drive and function and should I expect my test level to drop again after discontinuing clomid?
 
decasustuser said:
guys quick update. After being on clomid for 3 weeks @ 50 mgs EOD, the doctor took me off it and my levels of testosterone were tested 3 days later. the level was 608 which is over 100 points higher than my test of 504 before any use of steroids. Since stopping the clomid, my sexual function has improved (and is about 55-60% what it was before AAS), my depression has subsided for the most part, and I am finally able to sleep again. My question is what do you guys think is still causing the supression of sex drive and function and should I expect my test level to drop again after discontinuing clomid?
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too high of a dose of clomid will kill your sex drive in a lot of people. next time stick with 12.5-25mg ED tops.

good to hear you finally rebounded, but next time run your PCT right after cycle.. it will help save your gains you worked hard for.
 
decasustuser said:
guys quick update. After being on clomid for 3 weeks @ 50 mgs EOD, the doctor took me off it and my levels of testosterone were tested 3 days later. the level was 608 which is over 100 points higher than my test of 504 before any use of steroids. Since stopping the clomid, my sexual function has improved (and is about 55-60% what it was before AAS), my depression has subsided for the most part, and I am finally able to sleep again. My question is what do you guys think is still causing the supression of sex drive and function and should I expect my test level to drop again after discontinuing clomid?
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Of course it'll drop. Then it will slowly come back , which , to me at least, makes Clomid worthless. You might as well ride it out and recover on your own. (using supplements to help your body, as opposed to relying on more drugs).
 
Thanks fellas I really appreciate u guys stickin w me thru this thread and sharing ur knowledge. Yl I'm not fully recovered atleast now I can get a full workout in and get the occational moorning wood. Any theorys on y the sex drive and function is still low tho? Any advice how to handle that? Id say its 60 % what it used to b.
 
Right but testlevels correlate with sex drive and energy to lift and my question is wut shud I do now that my seex drive and function is still not what it used to be but my test levels are normal. (Even on the higher side of normal)...wut shud I do abt that? What hormones do u susppect are out of wack now?
 
and testosterone has no correlation with sex drive or will and ability to workout and lift? thats pretty contradictory of anything and everything iv read. (esp the latter of that statement).
 
decasustuser said:
and testosterone has no correlation with sex drive or will and ability to workout and lift? thats pretty contradictory of anything and everything iv read. (esp the latter of that statement).
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you've got good test levels now and still no sex drive. so how is what i'm saying contradictory?
 
im saying that as a general rule its testosterone that directly correlates with sex drive. In other words thats the number one hormone that effects a mans sex drive and function. But yes my level is good and I still have no sex drive. that is why I am concerned. if its not the suppression of testosterone that makes deca so detramental to sex drive and function, then what is it? Prolactin? Estrogen? Progesterone? I am trying to find out what my next move needs to be. What should i have tested?
 
If your estrogen and testosterone is OK, I would say its mostly in your head. The more you worry about stuff the bigger they gets. But its hard not to, so it can be difficult. When I was younger I had some of the same for a long time after a Parabolan (tren) cycle, so I know what I am talking about.
 
decasustuser said:
im saying that as a general rule its testosterone that directly correlates with sex drive. In other words thats the number one hormone that effects a mans sex drive and function. But yes my level is good and I still have no sex drive. that is why I am concerned. if its not the suppression of testosterone that makes deca so detramental to sex drive and function, then what is it? Prolactin? Estrogen? Progesterone? I am trying to find out what my next move needs to be. What should i have tested?
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sit tight and do nothing.

eventually it will return. like i've said it can take a year.

you opened a can of worms when you ran steroids, now you have to deal with it and stop stressing. your situation is a perfect example of how many young guys jump on HRT too soon in life, not enough patience.

only advice i can give you is run unleashed and post cycle together. that will help.
 
haha no kidding man. thanks so much for your input tho gunther. preciate it man. very encouraging. So as long as I chillax and let time pass I should be good?
 
Pretty sure you will. One thing you might try to trick your brain, and jumpstart your libido is some Viagra or Cialis. Then you will see that everything is actuality working fine, and when your d*** gets hard your libido usually fire right up, since its wondering what the hell your dick is wondering about or have seen ;-)
 
Another thing, I have pretty high libido naturally but whatever I take that mess with my hormones, either estrogens or androgens, my libido fades away to almost nothing within days. I actually like it a bit, its nice to be able to only think about and have sex when you want and can, and not all the time. When I was younger and didn't have a gf, I often looked forward to my cycles because of this. But maybe those that don't have very high libido, should be a bit careful with hormones.
 
viagra will be a way to coat your problem, but it won't solve it at all.. might actually make the situation worse.

taking a drug because of abusing the first drug is a bad idea everytime. wait it out and like i said pick up some unleashed/post cycle. it is natural herbs.
 
Agree, but it depends on how you can handle that vs the first problem. At least for me those pills actually don't do much either, they aren't the magic pills that everyone rave about that makes your d*** rock hard for hours. So they shouldn't be so hard to drop. They just give you a tiny edge, but that could just be enough for him to jumpstart things a bit.

stevesmi said:
viagra will be a way to coat your problem, but it won't solve it at all.. might actually make the situation worse.
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Hey man, I did a cycle last year from May-August of Deca and test cyp. Im also the same age. I experienced the exact same thing as you. My libido was near gone. I just recently got it back. I did a pct after my cycle and i didnt see it do much. If I were you I would drop the clomid and let your body recover by it self. After going through this experience, I aslo think that I wont ever be going back on roids lol. Its depressing not being as pumped up and jacked as you were before, then on top of that you cant even get your dick up. I started taking Fenugreek last month and honestly my sex drive is back to normal if not better than what it was before. Its a natural herb and it costs 1/10th the price of clomid and drugs of that sort. My strengths been up and I definitely see a difference in my physical appearance (looks leaner). If i were you, I'd try this out before touching other test boosters you find in supplement stores. Just my two cents since I was in your shoes not too long ago!
 
Thank u guys all very much. Can't tell you how much I appreciate all the input. I have been off the clomid a week now and now I have gotten a few erections of sexual material and thoughts. Probably about 80 percent what it used to be but its getting better (knock on wood). I'll keep u guys posted.
 
decasustuser said:
Thank u guys all very much. Can't tell you how much I appreciate all the input. I have been off the clomid a week now and now I have gotten a few erections of sexual material and thoughts. Probably about 80 percent what it used to be but its getting better (knock on wood). I'll keep u guys posted.
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There ya go. The Clomid was making your estrogen too high. Continue with the UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE and BRIDGE. In no time you'll be sprouting wood and looking to nail even the ugly chicks. :D
 
nelson just as you said the clomid was only a temporary fix. when i came off it my erections came back and my test level was up. now erections are back to what they were before the clomid. Almost non existant unless i stimulate them. Do you have any advice on that? Just wait it out?
 
decasustuser said:
nelson just as you said the clomid was only a temporary fix. when i came off it my erections came back and my test level was up. now erections are back to what they were before the clomid. Almost non existant unless i stimulate them. Do you have any advice on that? Just wait it out?
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