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Comhrac Bas???

These keyboard warriors pretending to be smart pinch loaf after loaf of what they want you to think that they know so much about

thanks for introducing yourself ?


serious question though.. you said that you "drill"

do you spar? by that i mean people going 100% against each other both attacking and defending.. if you do this can you give some details on how you accomplish this safely in a training situation?

thanks
 
Judo Tom. The question that you've asked and the way that you have worded it in relation to my post makes it very simply " non sequitur ". To use an analogy , you have handed me three wax crayons all of them one colour, blue for example. You are now pointing at the crayons and asking me, which one is the blue one? I'm not asleep at the wheel here. I only had to read three of your eight hundred ninety seven posts to see what you're up to. Now, lets read the Oxford dictionary. SPAR. to make the motions of " boxing " without landing heavy blows. Okay, for the sake of argument that the Oxford is too British lets read the American Heritage dictionary of the English language,fourth edition. SPAR. to make boxing or fighting motions without hitting one's opponent. to fight with an opponent in a short bout or ( practice bout ) as in boxing or martial arts. I interpret that as either light contact or no contact at all. So, what about this " practice session " ? PRACTICE. to do or perform habitually. to exercise oneself in or on , to instruct , to exercise , ( to drill ). To DRILL! That's interesting isn't it? This would suggest to me that these drills that we do that you have such disdain for are in fact what you call sparring. Do you understand non sequitur now? Personally I distinguish between spar and drill. DRILL. colloquialism. A recognized procedure. Military- instruction or training in military exercise. ( rigorous discipline ) or methodical instuction. impart by strict method. RIGOROUS DISCIPLINE. strict , ( severe ) , precise , stringent , inclement , ( harsh ). With us, severe and harsh enough to make body armour mandatory. Do we spar? Yes. When we practice the elements of boxing , the hook , jab , overhand , cross and uppercut we spar. How do we spar in boxing? We wear headgear , gloves , and mouthguards and we make contact. How do we go one hundred percent? Simple. We speed up the technique. In my post I said " when necessary , appropriate protective gear is used ". If this gear was not used when we " drill " our high impact techniques , severe injury or death would occur. I'm not talking about boxing. I also said " to be clear , Comhrac Bas is a combat survival discipline ". So, here's what Comhrac Bas is not. It is not self defense. It is not sport fighting. It is not a martial art. You cannot use martial arts or sport fighting as reference to ask questions of what is done in Comhrac Bas. It doesn't translate. I also said that this has urban and military applications. We drill combat. Who else drills combat? Delta Force. The Seals. The French Foreign Legion. Other elite units , and why do we drill combat? One hundred percent combat is killing. In your own words from one of your own posts " most aikido schools do not " spar " enough and rather just do drills in pre arranged motions ". I would put to you that you have equated drills with kata. Drills are not kata. KATA. a system of basic body positioning and movement exercises , as in karate or JUDO . Kata is done in martial arts. We don't do kata. It's not in our curriculum. You see , I don't care how many times you bastardize the English language to make yourself shine. You can't toss words around like you're throwing bread crumbs at pidgeons. Drill means drill. Spar means Spar. Form , Kata , Style , Fight , Combat , all have their own separate definitions and are not interchangable. The fact that this is commonly done does not make it correct. Fighting is what you do with somebody . Combat is what you do to somebody. Some people just don't get that! That's not my problem. I could elaborate on a lot of what I've said here. I have neither the time nor the inclination. I have no doubt that you have an agenda and that you will choose to be deliberately obtuse and repudiate what I've put here. I don't care. As far as I'm concerned I was finished with this thread when I posted K_O_S . I'm quite done with it now.
 
dude i dont know how you read my post or what you thought i meant.. but i have 900 posts on this board (non plat all real posts ver few in chat board) all with the intent on helping people or helping the spread of information for everyones benefit. im probably the most active poster on this forum and i never put down a martial art or a fighter so take a deep breath.

i just thought you knew a lot about a style i never heard of and wanted to know how you practiced. drilled or whatever and if there was any type of me 100% vs you 100%

if your done thats cool and good luck, if you have some time please let me know whats up.

for people who know me its obvious to them that i LOVE judo and im 100% addicted. but they also know i really like and respect every other art out there and enjoy practicing in as many styles as possible so obviously styles that mix in other styles i enjoy.

sorry i dont write posts here like articles or term papers.. i assume most here are cool enough where i can write with some poor grammar and people will respond

i was more interested to hear if you guys used gloves headgear rib gaurds. if you put big dudes against little dudes.. guys vs gals and how you did it safely.

ive suffered a bunch of injuries in a "safe/gentle" art so if you can train effectively in an art that at first appears more brutal i would be quited interested..

again nice people skills.

lighten up a bit and tell us what you do and how you do it dont just say its the most effective people here have heard that too many times and it sounds like an infomercial
 
Judo Tom said:
dude i dont know how you read my post or what you thought i meant.. but i have 900 posts on this board (non plat all real posts ver few in chat board) all with the intent on helping people or helping the spread of information for everyones benefit. im probably the most active poster on this forum and i never put down a martial art or a fighter so take a deep breath.

i just thought you knew a lot about a style i never heard of and wanted to know how you practiced. drilled or whatever and if there was any type of me
for people who know me its obvious to them that i LOVE judo and im 100% addicted.

undefined Well that is a sport. CB is not a sport. YOu are looking at it as if you were trying to make Spanish into English.

sorry i dont write posts here like articles or term papers.. i assume most here are cool enough where i can write with some poor grammar and people will respond

undefined Well is that an apology? Commnication is to be clear and if we cannot decide on defintions then we will not be able to commnicate (I think that was what P. Boy was trying to accomplish)

i was more interested to hear if you guys used gloves headgear rib gaurds. if you put big dudes against little dudes.. guys vs gals and how you did it safely.
undefined Sounds like you would be interested in going to a seminar to learn this. If not your interest level must not be that high (afterall, this is the information age and people do these things as a profession and not a hobby).

ive suffered a bunch of injuries in a "safe/gentle" art so if you can train effectively in an art that at first appears more brutal i would be quited interested..
undefined Juso is a sport where anyone who does it for any real length of time at a high level has a two page list of injuries (so much for it being gentle).

again nice people skills.undefined Maybe you didn't like his answers but I did.

lighten up a bit and tell us what you do and how you do it dont just say its the most effective people here have heard that too many times and it sounds like an infomercial
undefined The days of Mr. Myagi are over. Either you are doing somehting as a hobby or as a profession. I take it that you are doing your "martial arts" as a hobby? There are professionals out there that make a living for their specific high level knowledge (remember how you have to pay to talk to a lawyer or medical doctor). The hobby people always talk for free (but are you going to a hobby doctor that operates in his spare time?--but you want free information on something that is defintely out there to be had if you take personal responsibility and do it). It really comes down to the person: does that person really want the information, or does that person just want others to do things for them? So which are you?
 
i really dont get what the hell is going on here..

when i ask wreslters this question its a simple answer

boxers same thing

ju jitsu guys same thing

these boards are about sharing information and helping each other out so what the hell is going on

i ask on the training board how people train and they tell me.

all im asking is how the hell do you guys train, practice, drill, spar whatever

how much do you guys do it.. how often is it full force are pads worn is a ref/instructor looking out.. whatever

yes judo is my hobby. im just trying to gather more information about an art. im not out to steal any trade secrets just looking to improve my understanding of other arts and perhaps incorporate bits and pieces of other styles/training methods into my training if they could work for me or help me be a more effective fighter

i might be interested in a seminar if i got some information about this art and how it is trained..
 
Judo Tom said:
i really dont get what the hell is going on here..

when i ask wreslters this question its a simple answer

boxers same thing

ju jitsu guys same thing

these boards are about sharing information and helping each other out so what the hell is going on

i ask on the training board how people train and they tell me.

all im asking is how the hell do you guys train, practice, drill, spar whatever

how much do you guys do it.. how often is it full force are pads worn is a ref/instructor looking out.. whatever

yes judo is my hobby. im just trying to gather more information about an art. im not out to steal any trade secrets just looking to improve my understanding of other arts and perhaps incorporate bits and pieces of other styles/training methods into my training if they could work for me or help me be a more effective fighter

i might be interested in a seminar if i got some information about this art and how it is trained..

Well maybe this requires more self direct responsiblity than what you are used to. Boxers make money by fighting (trainers by the training) wrestlers just don't make money (the trainers get paid and make money through clinics) jiu jitsu it is too invovled to give a simple answer (the best trainers will not give out free answers).

You do something as a hobby--that mindset is very far away from a professional mindset (did you understand the doctor analogy?).

The point being is that you want the easy answer and the easy road--maybe part of the selection process of who learns this art that P. Boy talks about starts there. Fascination and curioristy are just the begining. And if you are curious enough you can chase down an answer on the things that you ask. You have not availed yourself of the plethora of resources on the web to answer your questions. You just get miffed when you don't get an answer to your query. Research, that is the answer to learning--is it not?
 
all im gonna say is that if someone came here interested in judo i could and would feel obligated to tell them as much as i could about my art and how we practice and train to try to help spread the art and get more people involved that is obviously not the case either with this art or with the people that are posting here about the art maybe its too secretive and you cant post.. maybe your instructor said not too who knows and i dont really care

obviously i could do my own research and order videos and attend seminars to see if this art would interest me..

or someone couldve take 2 mins and wrote a decnt post about how you train..
 
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obviously i could do my own research and order videos and attend seminars to see if this art would interest me..

or someone couldve take 2 mins and wrote a decnt post about how you train..[/QUOTE]

Well it seems a highly motivated and resource driven person knows what he has to do now. Given a fish or taught to fish--which is better?
 
im really starting to think you guys are a cult or something..

ill do some research.. i need a new haircut anyhow

thanks for all your help
 
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