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Comhrac Bas???

K_O_S

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I was planing to join either a Boxing or MMA style. But the only problem with this, is I have to travel about 1 hours to the academy.I work with this guy and he swear that Comhrac Bas is the best fighting method. He took the semenar with Chris Clugston. Any opinion on this? Thanx
 
translation-"death fighting" LMAO!
I love it. Some dude who combines a ton of traditional martial arts together that work for him and thinks he revolutionized martial arts. Sorry, that theory is already out there- it's called Jeet Kune Do. Be warry of a "system" that is only obtainable by video or seminar.
This is just one of a long list of "tactical" systems that claim superiority.
How does one spar in a "death fighting" system. If you can't spar it (at least @ 75%), how do you develop timing & know it works.
Stay awaaaaayyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!
 
how old are you? if your still in highschool join the wrestling team - 4 years of wrestling will do wonders for your clinch, takedowns, and ground and pound. Then combine that with boxing and you have a pretty good foundation. Now I would suggest you also look into bjj/jj for submissions. Now your ready for NHB.

IF your looking for a street oriented MA - look for fillipino styles such as kuntao, kali, anris, or silat.

you can check out www.mma.tv and ask the board if they have any school recomendations in your area. That board is huge and you will find a lot of knowledge there.
 
I'm 22, and I finish high school, My High school didn't have wrestling team. I'm from a very small town. The nearest city is about 1 hours drive, and the only thing they have is either boxing, kickboxing and Karate. I use to box lot when I was a kid, maybe around the age of 10-12 years old.

thanx guy's
 
I never heard of the style you mentioned. However, what are your goals? are you looking to compete or just a hobbiest? Boxing and kickboxing are great workouts - especially cardio. What type of karate do you have around you(some forms are better than others)? Where in canada r you from?
 
My goal right now is more for a hobbi, than realy fighting in a ring. But I want some thing that will give me a good chalenge, and some thing that will help me if am attack in a street fight. I'm from New Brunswick, and the nearest city is Moncton about 1 hour away.
 
K_O_S said:
My goal right now is more for a hobbi, than realy fighting in a ring. But I want some thing that will give me a good chalenge, and some thing that will help me if am attack in a street fight. I'm from New Brunswick, and the nearest city is Moncton about 1 hour away.
K_O_S. You should have some more in depth discussion with your associate at work. He's not yanking your chain. I myself have attended several seminars , I own the entire video collection and have been training on a weekly basis with a group in a proper facility for over a year in Comhrac Bas. I'll bring to your attention that I am travelling one hundred seven miles one way for a two hundred fourteen mile round trip to attend each ninety minute session of Comhrac Bas. Traffic and conditions can make the trip anywhere from two to three hours each way. Believe me, to be spending that much time behind the wheel and spending that much money on gasoline I'm definitely sold that this method eclipses anything else you care to name. I did a great deal of research before I commited and got involved. Only a ten to fifteen minute drive in any direction from my residence I could take up membership in any number of martial arts academys. In this area there is Chinese Kempo karate, Shito Ryu karate, Shotokan karate, Aikido, Jujitsu, Judo, Twin Dragon's kung fu, Tae Kwon Do, Shu Ha Ri karate, Kuk Sool Won,and just one hour down the road is Vladimir Vasiliev's Russian Martial Art. If boxing is your choice there's also an organized boxing club. To be clear, Comhrac Bas is a combat survival discipline, something that these martial arts are not and that includes Jeet Kune Do. Jeet Kune Do is the culmination of years of extracting and blending only the best and proven techniques from traditional systems. It is the epitome of traditional martial arts. Even so no matter how much baggage is attached to it this system is receding into the past, already thirty years out of date. Comhrac Bas is continually evolving like a language where words fall into disuse and become obsolete, new technology is introduced adding to and modernizing the " vocabulary " of the user. Comhrac Bas is not some pretty , flowery nonsense that's done in front of a mirror. This is serious proven technology that does have urban and military applications. This technology is drilled. It is drilled in real time at real speed. These drills are blended and chained until they become second nature. When necessary, appropriate protective gear is used. In so far as knowing if it works I could put it this way. I know that if I stuff a knife into your kidney and then remove the knife you now have about three minutes to live. The blood supply to the kidney is most generous so that death is from massive hemorrhage. Even if an ambulance was right there waiting they'd never get you to the hospital in time. You would be quite dead on arrival! Would I really need to stab you in the kidney to demonstrate this? That you are only an hour away from Moncton is your good fortune. If you go to the website www.theburst.com you will find the name Claude Gallant and his Moncton phone number. He is qualified and authorized to answer your questions. Try not to give credence to the self appointed experts out there of which there are just too many. These keyboard warriors pretending to be smart pinch loaf after loaf of what they want you to think that they know so much about.
 
Thank you very much for your info, poisonorangeboy. I'll contac claude as soon as i have the chance. So where are you from, and where do you take the seminars?

Thanx
 
These keyboard warriors pretending to be smart pinch loaf after loaf of what they want you to think that they know so much about

thanks for introducing yourself ?


serious question though.. you said that you "drill"

do you spar? by that i mean people going 100% against each other both attacking and defending.. if you do this can you give some details on how you accomplish this safely in a training situation?

thanks
 
Judo Tom. The question that you've asked and the way that you have worded it in relation to my post makes it very simply " non sequitur ". To use an analogy , you have handed me three wax crayons all of them one colour, blue for example. You are now pointing at the crayons and asking me, which one is the blue one? I'm not asleep at the wheel here. I only had to read three of your eight hundred ninety seven posts to see what you're up to. Now, lets read the Oxford dictionary. SPAR. to make the motions of " boxing " without landing heavy blows. Okay, for the sake of argument that the Oxford is too British lets read the American Heritage dictionary of the English language,fourth edition. SPAR. to make boxing or fighting motions without hitting one's opponent. to fight with an opponent in a short bout or ( practice bout ) as in boxing or martial arts. I interpret that as either light contact or no contact at all. So, what about this " practice session " ? PRACTICE. to do or perform habitually. to exercise oneself in or on , to instruct , to exercise , ( to drill ). To DRILL! That's interesting isn't it? This would suggest to me that these drills that we do that you have such disdain for are in fact what you call sparring. Do you understand non sequitur now? Personally I distinguish between spar and drill. DRILL. colloquialism. A recognized procedure. Military- instruction or training in military exercise. ( rigorous discipline ) or methodical instuction. impart by strict method. RIGOROUS DISCIPLINE. strict , ( severe ) , precise , stringent , inclement , ( harsh ). With us, severe and harsh enough to make body armour mandatory. Do we spar? Yes. When we practice the elements of boxing , the hook , jab , overhand , cross and uppercut we spar. How do we spar in boxing? We wear headgear , gloves , and mouthguards and we make contact. How do we go one hundred percent? Simple. We speed up the technique. In my post I said " when necessary , appropriate protective gear is used ". If this gear was not used when we " drill " our high impact techniques , severe injury or death would occur. I'm not talking about boxing. I also said " to be clear , Comhrac Bas is a combat survival discipline ". So, here's what Comhrac Bas is not. It is not self defense. It is not sport fighting. It is not a martial art. You cannot use martial arts or sport fighting as reference to ask questions of what is done in Comhrac Bas. It doesn't translate. I also said that this has urban and military applications. We drill combat. Who else drills combat? Delta Force. The Seals. The French Foreign Legion. Other elite units , and why do we drill combat? One hundred percent combat is killing. In your own words from one of your own posts " most aikido schools do not " spar " enough and rather just do drills in pre arranged motions ". I would put to you that you have equated drills with kata. Drills are not kata. KATA. a system of basic body positioning and movement exercises , as in karate or JUDO . Kata is done in martial arts. We don't do kata. It's not in our curriculum. You see , I don't care how many times you bastardize the English language to make yourself shine. You can't toss words around like you're throwing bread crumbs at pidgeons. Drill means drill. Spar means Spar. Form , Kata , Style , Fight , Combat , all have their own separate definitions and are not interchangable. The fact that this is commonly done does not make it correct. Fighting is what you do with somebody . Combat is what you do to somebody. Some people just don't get that! That's not my problem. I could elaborate on a lot of what I've said here. I have neither the time nor the inclination. I have no doubt that you have an agenda and that you will choose to be deliberately obtuse and repudiate what I've put here. I don't care. As far as I'm concerned I was finished with this thread when I posted K_O_S . I'm quite done with it now.
 
dude i dont know how you read my post or what you thought i meant.. but i have 900 posts on this board (non plat all real posts ver few in chat board) all with the intent on helping people or helping the spread of information for everyones benefit. im probably the most active poster on this forum and i never put down a martial art or a fighter so take a deep breath.

i just thought you knew a lot about a style i never heard of and wanted to know how you practiced. drilled or whatever and if there was any type of me 100% vs you 100%

if your done thats cool and good luck, if you have some time please let me know whats up.

for people who know me its obvious to them that i LOVE judo and im 100% addicted. but they also know i really like and respect every other art out there and enjoy practicing in as many styles as possible so obviously styles that mix in other styles i enjoy.

sorry i dont write posts here like articles or term papers.. i assume most here are cool enough where i can write with some poor grammar and people will respond

i was more interested to hear if you guys used gloves headgear rib gaurds. if you put big dudes against little dudes.. guys vs gals and how you did it safely.

ive suffered a bunch of injuries in a "safe/gentle" art so if you can train effectively in an art that at first appears more brutal i would be quited interested..

again nice people skills.

lighten up a bit and tell us what you do and how you do it dont just say its the most effective people here have heard that too many times and it sounds like an infomercial
 
Judo Tom said:
dude i dont know how you read my post or what you thought i meant.. but i have 900 posts on this board (non plat all real posts ver few in chat board) all with the intent on helping people or helping the spread of information for everyones benefit. im probably the most active poster on this forum and i never put down a martial art or a fighter so take a deep breath.

i just thought you knew a lot about a style i never heard of and wanted to know how you practiced. drilled or whatever and if there was any type of me
for people who know me its obvious to them that i LOVE judo and im 100% addicted.

undefined Well that is a sport. CB is not a sport. YOu are looking at it as if you were trying to make Spanish into English.

sorry i dont write posts here like articles or term papers.. i assume most here are cool enough where i can write with some poor grammar and people will respond

undefined Well is that an apology? Commnication is to be clear and if we cannot decide on defintions then we will not be able to commnicate (I think that was what P. Boy was trying to accomplish)

i was more interested to hear if you guys used gloves headgear rib gaurds. if you put big dudes against little dudes.. guys vs gals and how you did it safely.
undefined Sounds like you would be interested in going to a seminar to learn this. If not your interest level must not be that high (afterall, this is the information age and people do these things as a profession and not a hobby).

ive suffered a bunch of injuries in a "safe/gentle" art so if you can train effectively in an art that at first appears more brutal i would be quited interested..
undefined Juso is a sport where anyone who does it for any real length of time at a high level has a two page list of injuries (so much for it being gentle).

again nice people skills.undefined Maybe you didn't like his answers but I did.

lighten up a bit and tell us what you do and how you do it dont just say its the most effective people here have heard that too many times and it sounds like an infomercial
undefined The days of Mr. Myagi are over. Either you are doing somehting as a hobby or as a profession. I take it that you are doing your "martial arts" as a hobby? There are professionals out there that make a living for their specific high level knowledge (remember how you have to pay to talk to a lawyer or medical doctor). The hobby people always talk for free (but are you going to a hobby doctor that operates in his spare time?--but you want free information on something that is defintely out there to be had if you take personal responsibility and do it). It really comes down to the person: does that person really want the information, or does that person just want others to do things for them? So which are you?
 
i really dont get what the hell is going on here..

when i ask wreslters this question its a simple answer

boxers same thing

ju jitsu guys same thing

these boards are about sharing information and helping each other out so what the hell is going on

i ask on the training board how people train and they tell me.

all im asking is how the hell do you guys train, practice, drill, spar whatever

how much do you guys do it.. how often is it full force are pads worn is a ref/instructor looking out.. whatever

yes judo is my hobby. im just trying to gather more information about an art. im not out to steal any trade secrets just looking to improve my understanding of other arts and perhaps incorporate bits and pieces of other styles/training methods into my training if they could work for me or help me be a more effective fighter

i might be interested in a seminar if i got some information about this art and how it is trained..
 
Judo Tom said:
i really dont get what the hell is going on here..

when i ask wreslters this question its a simple answer

boxers same thing

ju jitsu guys same thing

these boards are about sharing information and helping each other out so what the hell is going on

i ask on the training board how people train and they tell me.

all im asking is how the hell do you guys train, practice, drill, spar whatever

how much do you guys do it.. how often is it full force are pads worn is a ref/instructor looking out.. whatever

yes judo is my hobby. im just trying to gather more information about an art. im not out to steal any trade secrets just looking to improve my understanding of other arts and perhaps incorporate bits and pieces of other styles/training methods into my training if they could work for me or help me be a more effective fighter

i might be interested in a seminar if i got some information about this art and how it is trained..

Well maybe this requires more self direct responsiblity than what you are used to. Boxers make money by fighting (trainers by the training) wrestlers just don't make money (the trainers get paid and make money through clinics) jiu jitsu it is too invovled to give a simple answer (the best trainers will not give out free answers).

You do something as a hobby--that mindset is very far away from a professional mindset (did you understand the doctor analogy?).

The point being is that you want the easy answer and the easy road--maybe part of the selection process of who learns this art that P. Boy talks about starts there. Fascination and curioristy are just the begining. And if you are curious enough you can chase down an answer on the things that you ask. You have not availed yourself of the plethora of resources on the web to answer your questions. You just get miffed when you don't get an answer to your query. Research, that is the answer to learning--is it not?
 
all im gonna say is that if someone came here interested in judo i could and would feel obligated to tell them as much as i could about my art and how we practice and train to try to help spread the art and get more people involved that is obviously not the case either with this art or with the people that are posting here about the art maybe its too secretive and you cant post.. maybe your instructor said not too who knows and i dont really care

obviously i could do my own research and order videos and attend seminars to see if this art would interest me..

or someone couldve take 2 mins and wrote a decnt post about how you train..
 
You know....

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obviously i could do my own research and order videos and attend seminars to see if this art would interest me..

or someone couldve take 2 mins and wrote a decnt post about how you train..[/QUOTE]

Well it seems a highly motivated and resource driven person knows what he has to do now. Given a fish or taught to fish--which is better?
 
im really starting to think you guys are a cult or something..

ill do some research.. i need a new haircut anyhow

thanks for all your help
 
BIg Rick's probably gonna kick my ass for this but you Comrac Bas Guys are Fcuked!!
Who the Fcuk talks like that Poison Orange boy.??????
Thinking your educating people on what a non-sequitor is will not grant you or your art much credibility. I was interested until I started laughing.

Styles like JKD, Muay thai and Boxing are tried and proven via combat training and"Drills" as you call them.But you come on here and insult every single artist on here with your patronizing, condescending , holier than thou attitude.
Unless you train with live blades, guns with live ammo, Vehicle evasion and attack techniques, grenades,rocket launchers and nuclear missles.....WHAT MAKES YOU SO SPECIAL??!
Oh, I know- That one move where you can kill me with your pinky finger while drinking a glass of water standing on your head.


Now I'm only 2 hours away from Moncton so I'm gonna look up your buddy Claude there and check it out. I don't suppose you're anywhere in MAritime Canada??
I think i'll also maybe ask a couple of my Kinda-ha JJ budies in Moncton about him as well as my Kick-boxing buddies.

As for KOS. I know a couple of good schools in Moncton and there is a REALLY good school in Rothsay(JKD).

E-mail if you wish- [email protected] for details.


Ill
 
Well I guess you showed your hatred of intellectual enquiry. Wow you don't like the way someone talks so that, of course, means you now get to invalidate everything that is said because naturally you are more of an authority-- (are you a professional? do you make your living training others and teaching others? do you even have training tapes available?) then why are you capable of an informed opinion on the subject?

Two hours away from Moncton--in which direction? Nova Scotia?

Just because your experience is limited does not mean that others have the same problem.

"Don't judge the world by your own shitty standards"--James Keating
 
teep said:
Well I guess you showed your hatred of intellectual enquiry. Wow you don't like the way someone talks so that, of course, means you now get to invalidate everything that is said because naturally you are more of an authority-- (are you a professional? do you make your living training others and teaching others? do you even have training tapes available?) then why are you capable of an informed opinion on the subject?

Two hours away from Moncton--in which direction? Nova Scotia?

Just because your experience is limited does not mean that others have the same problem.

"Don't judge the world by your own shitty standards"--James Keating


I don't hate intellectual inquiry. I hate individuals who will try to discredit all other arts in light of their own "superior" techniques. You and Poison have done that quite well with-out actually trying to engage in sensical or rational debate as to what makes an art an art, or what makes an art effective.
YOu just tell everyone that all other arts are out-dated and of no use so Comrac Bas is the be-all, end-all and everyone else on here knows nothing.
Then you to try to justify by stating that you are "professionals". All professional means is that you take people's money from them. IT DOES NIOT SPEAK TO YOUR ABILITIES AS A MARTIAL ARTIST!

I am an authority because I hold rank in several of the styles mentioned and am certified under Dan Inosanto, Remy Presas and Louie Lindo.I am an authority because I hold 4 provincial kick-boxing titles and numerous competiton wins.I have trained CF's troops and Several local Police forces in Hand to Hand, kubotan and Baton work. I am not a professional. I have no need to convert my MA hobby into a money making scheme whereby I can rip off thousands of un-informed MArtial artists with video tapes and one hour lessons in " modern technology" of fighting.

I notice POB has been training in Comrac Bas for all of ONE WHOLE YEAR!!

That certainly makes him an expert on all martial arts and gives him the right to discredit the rest of us who have been training for 20 odd years and have been all over the world to train with the top individuals in martial arts.

My experience is far from limited. In fact, I would try Comrac Bas to determine if it was indeed an art I would be interested in. Can you say the same of JKD or any other art??

Ill
 
illusionofsize said:
I don't hate intellectual inquiry. I hate individuals who will try to discredit all other arts in light of their own "superior" techniques. You and Poison have done that quite well with-out actually trying to engage in sensical or rational debate as to what makes an art an art, or what makes an art effective."

JKD was advacement of Wing Chun--obviously you not where Comhrac Bas comes from or what it is built from--you are blinded by your own limitations yet again.




"YOu just tell everyone that all other arts are out-dated and of no use so Comrac Bas is the be-all, end-all and everyone else on here knows nothing.""


Gee sounds a lot like Bruce Lee doesn't it?

Then you to try to justify by stating that you are "professionals". All professional means is that you take people's money from them. IT DOES NIOT SPEAK TO YOUR ABILITIES AS A MARTIAL ARTIST!"


Really", so a docotor that gets paid for operating is no better than some one who sits around and hobby operates? That is your argument.

"I am an authority because I hold rank in several of the styles mentioned and am certified under Dan Inosanto, Remy Presas and Louie Lindo.I am an authority because I hold 4 provincial kick-boxing titles and numerous competiton wins.I have trained CF's troops and Several local Police forces in Hand to Hand, kubotan and Baton work."


That is good now we know that you are good follower--but not an innovator. That is normal, don't feel bad--there are lots of good classical musicians, but only one Mozart. Good work on the provincial titles--I assume this is the old above the waist fighting? Canada only has a population of 27 million--and the best are around Montreal and Vancouver. It is a different animal that comes to the forefrount out of 300 million people. You know what I mean?

""I am not a professional. I have no need to convert my MA hobby into a money making scheme whereby I can rip off thousands of un-informed MArtial artists with video tapes and one hour lessons in " modern technology" of fighting.

Nice justification after the fact--and again you talk about something you know nothing about. (Like someon poor who claims that being rich doesn't make you happy--as if poverty makes anyone happy?) You have at the best a specious grasp of what it is that you are writing.

"I notice POB has been training in Comrac Bas for all of ONE WHOLE YEAR!!"

So your standards again are what sets the standards for all. Gee let me tel l you--a Dutch kickboxer in a year can beat the hell out anyone else training (Dekkers and Kaman changed Muay Thai forever). But since you didn't learn anything in a year that must mean that everyone else is incapable.

"That certainly makes him an expert on all martial arts and gives him the right to discredit the rest of us who have been training for 20 odd years and have been all over the world to train with the top individuals in martial arts."


Well the Zulus were better warrior spirited men than the British troops that they fought--but guess what (and pay close attention) the TECHNOLOGY of the British beat the Zulus.

"My experience is far from limited. In fact, I would try Comrac Bas to determine if it was indeed an art I would be interested in. Can you say the same of JKD or any other art??"


You clearly think you understand the background of those that you talk to. This is your biggest error. Maybe all of those things that you are clinging to with your ego are things that I and other progressive thinking people let go of. Or did that even come to your mind? So what keeps you from trying CB in fact there is a seminar in Ohio 6 and 7 November (CALL 419-938-6089)hosted by the former USA Oloympic Judo Coach (gee someone that has seen the best in the world sees the reality of CB and has embraced it--is that a big enough of a traditional authority to impress you?)
 
JKD is far from an advancement of wing chun. You speak of my limitations but you also know nothing of it's evolution.

Give up the doctor analogy. It won't fly with any of the martial artists on here.You have to go to med school and achieve a modicumof success before professionally treating patients. ANYONE can open a martial arts school and claim to be professional.

Now you compare your art and it's "innovations" to mozart??
The best are from the USA is what you're trying to say...lol
Jean Yves Theriault!

I don't understand your background. In that you are correct. I can only speculate that you have no formal or competent training in any other arts except this Comrac BAs of which you speak that has such fantastic moves as a "Tossed Salad."

I don't thimk I'll be going to Ohio .I will however, travel to Moncton to visit so if you
are present I would certainly welcome your asistance in teaching me this amazing art form of yours and opening my eyes to prove how I've wasted 20 years of my life as a "follower" of some of the best Martial arts and instructors in the world.

I would also encourage all the other artists on this forum to investigate the infomercial that is theburst showcasing Comrac Bas.

Video tapes...lol1

I'm done.
 
Well, it is clear that you don't want to take the advantage of learnig from the sources. You can check out more at: http://www.johnsaylor-sja.com/index.html


You never did answer if you are in Nova Scotia. I am in Europe to answer your thought.

Jean Yves was okay as above the waist--but could never hang even with modified Muay Thai fights (Kaman stopped him in an above the waist kicking fight--and would have killed him in a leg kick, kne fight).

YOu talk about Muay Thai but clearly have no idea aobut fighting in the ring with it.

I think you are done (or was that to say dumb in the true sense of the word?) because there is nothing that you can say.

Also your non sequiturs are really painful--doctor analogy works with professionals who have done things (that is the point--we are not talking about a franchised Tae Kwon Do school here).

Anyway, if you really can do more than talk and can open your mind (which has been closed since you first typed on this thread) then you would get yourself to Ohio. But you are the type that has too much of their ego invested in what they already do--you cannot let go of the rung to climb higher on the ladder.

And that said it all.
 
This thread should be closed, it has degenerated from a legitimate question into the common disagreement martial artists tend to get into, the kind that can never be settled.
 
A truth about all things

karde said:
This thread should be closed, it has degenerated from a legitimate question into the common disagreement martial artists tend to get into, the kind that can never be settled.


Actually this is not a disagreement. This is an error in reading what has been said. This is about experential truth--I have been speaking of experential truth and the other has been speculation (not founded in any sort of experential data). One talks about what he thinks in his imagination (without any sort of experential truth)--I have only talked about those things that I have actually done. There is no theory in what I have stated.

So to sum it up: this has been one person talking about his limitations and unwillingness to do what is needed to gain experential truth (only ad hominene attacks, red herrings, non sequtiurs, etc) and I have only talked about what is real in my experience.

Big difference from disagreement of what color the room should be painted.
 
i have seen chris clugston fight in tulsa oklahoma...with all his training and cohmrac bas claims he lost a kick boxing match to a kid who had never kicked boxed before! chris clugston is a fraud! and a joke in the fight world!
 
I saw his video.
Nothing special only the pop up.
When you push the guy up and he falls.
If I want street combat, I would probably take Paul Vinak.
 
poisonorangeboy said:
Judo Tom. The question that you've asked and the way that you have worded it in relation to my post makes it very simply " non sequitur ". To use an analogy , you have handed me three wax crayons all of them one colour, blue for example. You are now pointing at the crayons and asking me, which one is the blue one? I'm not asleep at the wheel here. I only had to read three of your eight hundred ninety seven posts to see what you're up to. Now, lets read the Oxford dictionary. SPAR. to make the motions of " boxing " without landing heavy blows. Okay, for the sake of argument that the Oxford is too British lets read the American Heritage dictionary of the English language,fourth edition. SPAR. to make boxing or fighting motions without hitting one's opponent. to fight with an opponent in a short bout or ( practice bout ) as in boxing or martial arts. I interpret that as either light contact or no contact at all. So, what about this " practice session " ? PRACTICE. to do or perform habitually. to exercise oneself in or on , to instruct , to exercise , ( to drill ). To DRILL! That's interesting isn't it? This would suggest to me that these drills that we do that you have such disdain for are in fact what you call sparring. Do you understand non sequitur now? Personally I distinguish between spar and drill. DRILL. colloquialism. A recognized procedure. Military- instruction or training in military exercise. ( rigorous discipline ) or methodical instuction. impart by strict method. RIGOROUS DISCIPLINE. strict , ( severe ) , precise , stringent , inclement , ( harsh ). With us, severe and harsh enough to make body armour mandatory. Do we spar? Yes. When we practice the elements of boxing , the hook , jab , overhand , cross and uppercut we spar. How do we spar in boxing? We wear headgear , gloves , and mouthguards and we make contact. How do we go one hundred percent? Simple. We speed up the technique. In my post I said " when necessary , appropriate protective gear is used ". If this gear was not used when we " drill " our high impact techniques , severe injury or death would occur. I'm not talking about boxing. I also said " to be clear , Comhrac Bas is a combat survival discipline ". So, here's what Comhrac Bas is not. It is not self defense. It is not sport fighting. It is not a martial art. You cannot use martial arts or sport fighting as reference to ask questions of what is done in Comhrac Bas. It doesn't translate. I also said that this has urban and military applications. We drill combat. Who else drills combat? Delta Force. The Seals. The French Foreign Legion. Other elite units , and why do we drill combat? One hundred percent combat is killing. In your own words from one of your own posts " most aikido schools do not " spar " enough and rather just do drills in pre arranged motions ". I would put to you that you have equated drills with kata. Drills are not kata. KATA. a system of basic body positioning and movement exercises , as in karate or JUDO . Kata is done in martial arts. We don't do kata. It's not in our curriculum. You see , I don't care how many times you bastardize the English language to make yourself shine. You can't toss words around like you're throwing bread crumbs at pidgeons. Drill means drill. Spar means Spar. Form , Kata , Style , Fight , Combat , all have their own separate definitions and are not interchangable. The fact that this is commonly done does not make it correct. Fighting is what you do with somebody . Combat is what you do to somebody. Some people just don't get that! That's not my problem. I could elaborate on a lot of what I've said here. I have neither the time nor the inclination. I have no doubt that you have an agenda and that you will choose to be deliberately obtuse and repudiate what I've put here. I don't care. As far as I'm concerned I was finished with this thread when I posted K_O_S . I'm quite done with it now.



read george orwell's essay, "politics and the english language".
 
I can't believe you spoke to JudoTom like that. You are an jerk no matter what art you study and you would get clowned if you came to my school.
 
EVERYONE OF YOU ARE MISSING THE DAMN POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Before you guys make points about chris clugston and comhrac bas at least get your facts straight. I'll make them simple:

1. I bet at least 8/10ths of you never watch chris clugstons tapes which means if your beating on chris then your nothing more than a detractor who talks tough behind a computer

2. For people who think that chris is teaching things that the gladiators used....guess wut.....ur dead wrong!!!!!! Chris teaches a fighting system based on wut the gladiators did: surviving. Guess what...ironically thats wut chris had to do on the streets: SURVIVE. Chris shares on wut he did on the streets and he relates his experiences on what the gladiators did which is to save ur life and the loved ones around you.

3. Yes chris lost a couple of in the ring fights in Tulsa. Fights in the ring are different from fights in the streets. Comhrac Bas moves are illegal for fights in the ring. The pop up, the wedge, the low line moves, getting to the neck, just to name a few are all illegal in the ring. So therefore chris had to do things in the ring that he wouldn't be doing in the streets. Also keep in mind that in the ring fights are won by either knock out or points. In the streets there are no points. Yea there are knock outs but the way knock outs are made in the streets are different then they are made in the ring. On the streets there is full commitment which makes the fight last only 5 - 30 seconds. You never see a fight last for 5 - 30 seconds that often in the ring do you!!!!

4. The main attribute that separates chris clugston's fighting system with other fighting systems is exactly the word that i just said : attribute. Why do martial arts or other fighting systems, MMA, wrestling, Oriental, teach you moves which you have to do over and over again??? It's because they are based on attribute. So if u had to do a move you just learned once in your life without any continuous repetition on that move in the streets against any kind of fighter chances are you'll lose. Even if that move is a punch which we all know that some people punch better than others. So even the punch is attribute driven. Chris's moves are natural movements. So they are performance driven. You don't need to practice those moves over and over again to master them. Which means you can learn them once and do them to anyone on the streets. What proof that chris's moves work?? How about that chris did the moves he teaches hundreds of times on the streets to ensure that they work. This brings me to my next point.

5. Believe or not 99% of all people who claim to be world class street fighters even though they have never street fought in there entire lives are martial artists. Just because you train a lot....even if you've been training for years...doesn't mean your world class unless you have fought on the street consistently enough to know if your moves work. This goes for everyone: MMA, wrestling, boxing. kick boxing, military, even myself, etc etc: if you haven't fought consistently enough in the streets then you can't talk about how to survive in the streets everyday. And for those of you who are confused about this comment you must read my next point:

6. I did mention myself in point number 5. Yes to this point I haven't had the opportunity to survive in the streets. But at least I am man enough to admit it. Most people who train in any fighting system will do there best to avoid this very simple but powerful question: Have you ever fought consistently enough in the streets? The reason is because they haven't been there enough to say that what they are teaching works. Chris Clugston has been there done that enough times in his life to know that what he teaches works. Since i have learned from chris clugston i know that i can survive a street confrontation because i learned from a guy that teaches what he did on the streets over and over again. I am not a world class street fighter. I am a trained fighter.

So overall get your facts straight before you start making comments
 
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