Clean for a year and half, now need openions on this cycle

[badq8]

Hello gents, I've been clean for the past year and half and now I'm going to start my third cycle, Im 25 yrs old 170lbs height 5"8.

So I'm thinking of doing a 12 week cycle:
Proponaite 500mg ew 1-12
Primobolan 600mg ew 1-12
Winstrol 150mg ew 1-6
Anavar (need advice on dosage) 6-12
Hgh 4iu eod 1-14

And what do you guys suggest as PCT?

Awaiting your kind response.

Cheers,

 

[RADAR]

You're wasting that HGH it is more beneficial for those 35 and older.I think you need more training time before touching gear!

 

[Nelson Montana]

You're wasting that HGH it is more beneficial for those 35 and older.I think you need more training time before touching gear!

Yep. Look into a stack of UNLEASHED, GEAR, BIG BLAST, Better Bars and BRIDGE. You can put on another 10 solid pounds over the next 2 months naturally.

The more size you put on naturally, the more gains you can make while enhanced.

 

[thecompound]

5'8 170... id wait till your plateau prob more like 5'8 185, grocery store bound

 

[badq8]

Thanks gents for ur replys, I've been training for 5 years now and my last cycle was may 09, and now I want to cycle to gain more lean muscle, last cycle finished with a 7.4% bf with a weight of 165lbs. And honestly was very satisfied with that weight And bf. So what do u guys recommend on the dosage and pct?

 

[gixxerman]

hey bro..if ur worried about what gear is good ...head over to Elite-bodiez.com they are a sourcecheck site. Tons of info over there bro.

 

[badq8]

Thanks man but I already got the gear and what to get openions on the dosage and pct.

 

[Unrest]

I'd run var at 60mg Ed and scrap the GRowth

 

[Dogfox]

Hello gents, I've been clean for the past year and half and now I'm going to start my third cycle, Im 25 yrs old 170lbs height 5"8.

So I'm thinking of doing a 12 week cycle:
Proponaite 500mg ew 1-12
Primobolan 600mg ew 1-12
Winstrol 150mg ew 1-6
Anavar (need advice on dosage) 6-12
Hgh 4iu eod 1-14

And what do you guys suggest as PCT?

Awaiting your kind response.

Cheers,

Thats what i like to see, a real mans cycle.

I would say 60mgs of anavar, and drop the GH. Basically unless its pharm grade I would always advise against HGH for several reasons, one your body builds up an immunity to it and secondly A decent dose is needed to see an effect - esp bc your young. Like radar said older guys would benefit more from your kind of dose, but young guys not so much. And again HGH needs to be of excellent quality to be worth it

 

[EZ_E]

Thanks gents for ur replys, I've been training for 5 years now and my last cycle was may 09, and now I want to cycle to gain more lean muscle, last cycle finished with a 7.4% bf with a weight of 165lbs. And honestly was very satisfied with that weight And bf. So what do u guys recommend on the dosage and pct?

See post 2-3

~EZ

 

[badq8]

I won't be starting this cycle now, I'll be starting in march or mid-march. So what do you guys recommend for PCT? I need to get the PCT in line before the cycle. any thoughts gents?

 

[badq8]

I won't be starting this cycle now, I'll be starting in march or mid-march. So what do you guys recommend for PCT? I need to get the PCT in line before the cycle. any thoughts gents?

 

[Like_a_Weed]

Just say your 220 and try asking again..

I have my pct planned w:

Clomid/nolva 100/50/50/50 / 40/40/20/20

Plus hcgenerate 5 caps a day

Of course I'm on cycle #1 so take it for what it's worth. Pretty standard though. Just google post cycle therapy and read alot, you'll get a million opinions- pick the one you have the most faith in, cuz I'd bet that ones the one that'll work best for you.

Pretty standard is nolva 40/20/20/20 and/or clomid 100/50/50/50 that's week 1/week 2/etc..

I thought maybe somebody should give you something though. Looks like an awesome cycle, probably wouldn't use an oral the entire time though seems awfully hard on the liver. But your young and hopefully will have liver supports.

 

[Liquid 2009]

Since you are starting in mid March, I would take Nelson's advice and put on some size naturally until then. Prime yourself up.

I agree with dropping the GH. Not enough time or dose to really get the most out of it.

 

[badq8]

Guys forget about the size, I'm working on it and won't start untill i gain a good size, I just need an openion on PCT and dosage wise

 

[Nelson Montana]

Guys forget about the size, I'm working on it and won't start untill i gain a good size, I just need an openion on PCT and dosage wise

Check out the sticky at the top of the page -- Best PCT for 2010.

 

[badq8]

Gents,

Started my cycle on Friday so here it is

1 - 8 test proponaite 400mg ew
8- 11 test proponaite 300mg ew
1-8 primobolan 400mg ew
8-11 primobolan 300mg ew
1-11 winny 150mg ew
7-11 anavar 180mg ew
1-5 clenbutrol 20 Ed
1-17 HGH 4ui Ed
2-11 proviron 50 Ed

Now for pct I have hcg in hand, gonna get adex soon, wanna get hcgenerate and post cycle and unleashed but hcgenerate is out of stock and can't ship any liquids to my country, so they have to be pills.

What do u guys think of the above? And should. Start the hcg at 500iu on the third week with the adex or leave the adex for pct and start the hcg o the 3rd week upto the week 11 and wait 2 weeks to start pct with adex? And what other pct do u recommend?

 

[gymjunkie09]

Gents,

Started my cycle on Friday so here it is

1 - 8 test proponaite 400mg ew
8- 11 test proponaite 300mg ew
1-8 primobolan 400mg ew
8-11 primobolan 300mg ew
1-11 winny 150mg ew
7-11 anavar 180mg ew
1-5 clenbutrol 20 Ed
1-17 HGH 4ui Ed
2-11 proviron 50 Ed

Now for pct I have hcg in hand, gonna get adex soon, wanna get hcgenerate and post cycle and unleashed but hcgenerate is out of stock and can't ship any liquids to my country, so they have to be pills.

What do u guys think of the above? And should. Start the hcg at 500iu on the third week with the adex or leave the adex for pct and start the hcg o the 3rd week upto the week 11 and wait 2 weeks to start pct with adex? And what other pct do u recommend?

A little excessive don't you think? Winny for 11 weeks? Clen for 5? Better off 2 weeks on 2 weeks off imo. And i see u still are running hgh when everyone has advised u against it. And why taper down on the prop and primo? Run the Winny @ 50mg ed for 4 weeks and the var @ 60mg ed from weeks 6-11

 

[badq8]

Yea I think I'll just do winny for 4 weeks at 150mg ew, is that a good dose? And for the hgh I've been running it since my first cycle and I just love the results, and my igf levels go back to normal in a short period of time. How abt pct?

 

[gymjunkie09]

Yea I think I'll just do winny for 4 weeks at 150mg ew, is that a good dose? And for the hgh I've been running it since my first cycle and I just love the results, and my igf levels go back to normal in a short period of time. How abt pct?

50mg ed on the Winny
Pct
Hcgenerate or phsytoserms-347 whichever u can get
Post cycle/unleashed combo
Forma
Clomid 25mg ed

 

[oklahoma86]

I would drop the winstrol. Thats just me though. It doesnt seem like you need it. If you wanna go the oral route and stay dry and lean, run some Tbol the first 4 weeks, take 2 off, then hit your Anavar at 50-70mgED. Also.... I love Masteron personally, and if you want to somethin to dry you out and show results like immediately while you are "waiting" on the primo to kick in without going to an oral...your already runnin test prop, so droppin a CC of Masteron100 in the syringe with it for the entire cycle would sure give you that!!! I know a bunch of guys love to run it with EQ, and I think the same is true for Primo.

As for PCT, there are very good stickies at the top of the threads. Im all in on OTC PCTs, its all Ive ever done. Never used Nolva, Clomid, etc. To me keeping up with your on cycle support will make your PCT a breeze. I like to use HCGenerate the entire time Im on cycle, and on a 12 week cycle add hcg as well, either week 1-4 and 8-12, or just one run in week 4-8. I dont use hcg for PCT. Look at FormaStanzol (also good while on cycle, but dosed much lower for PCT) Phytoserms347, Unleashed, and PostCycle for PCT. Keep Letro on hand but I dont use AIs prophylactically, especially with the stuff your runnin.

Anyone feel free to correct if Im off, but thats my advice!

 

[oklahoma86]

Haha... I only read page one of the responses. I didnt see that you had already started! Best of luck man...

 

[badq8]

Thanks bro, added around 3kgs of pure muscle in 6 days, amazing cycle, ofcourse with the right food intake that is. Got my hands on hcg and waiting for the adex in a couple of days. Started also proviron 50mg, 25mg in the morning and 25mg before bed. Gonna start hcg week 3-11 @ 500 ui ew, what do u guys thnk? Going also to order post cycle, unleashed, and bridge. Does that sound good for pct?

 

[badq8]

Guys just got my hands in hcg and armidex, my hcg is 1500 ui every ampule and the armidex is 1mg every pill, I'm thinking of starting 500ui of hcg from this week (week 3), but isn't 1mg alot for armidex? Started to feel a little pain under the left nimple if I press it, should I start armidex now or what do u guys suggest?

 

[badq8]

Btw the little pain started after I stopped my proviron 50mg Ed for 2 days but after I took the proviron the pain went.

 

[halfsjj]

I would drop the winstrol. Thats just me though. It doesnt seem like you need it. If you wanna go the oral route and stay dry and lean, run some Tbol the first 4 weeks, take 2 off, then hit your Anavar at 50-70mgED. Also.... I love Masteron personally, and if you want to somethin to dry you out and show results like immediately while you are "waiting" on the primo to kick in without going to an oral...your already runnin test prop, so droppin a CC of Masteron100 in the syringe with it for the entire cycle would sure give you that!!! I know a bunch of guys love to run it with EQ, and I think the same is true for Primo.

As for PCT, there are very good stickies at the top of the threads. Im all in on OTC PCTs, its all Ive ever done. Never used Nolva, Clomid, etc. To me keeping up with your on cycle support will make your PCT a breeze. I like to use HCGenerate the entire time Im on cycle, and on a 12 week cycle add hcg as well, either week 1-4 and 8-12, or just one run in week 4-8. I dont use hcg for PCT. Look at FormaStanzol (also good while on cycle, but dosed much lower for PCT) Phytoserms347, Unleashed, and PostCycle for PCT. Keep Letro on hand but I dont use AIs prophylactically, especially with the stuff your runnin.

Anyone feel free to correct if Im off, but thats my advice!

Hadn't thought about a cc of Masteron with the Primo. Anyone else see that really add something to the Primo/Var Cycle?

 

[badq8]

Guys I just finished my cycle and will continue my hgh 4ui Ed, been doing hcg 500ui ew and armidex 1mg Ed. Now what do y recommend for pct, I can't order any hcgenerate etc due to goverment ristrictions on suplement imports. What do u guys suggest I do?

 

[badq8]

Common guys help a brother out