Chucks vs Wrestling shoes

[JOKER47]

http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/products/shoes.htm

Those would not be benefitial for a PL style of squatting. Those are designed for oly style squatting. (CCJ's primary style.)

He also swears by shoes like that for oly lifting. When I oly style squat, I place a small piece of wood under my heels to simulate the heels on those shoes.

 

[Synpax]

I've been using an old pair of run training shoes - the original Nike Shox R4 with the four shox pillars in the rear.

See here:

http://www.kicksology.net/images/reviews/nike/review_shoxr4_profile.jpg

I am thinking of switching to use my most recently expired/near expired run training shoe - Shox TL. They look like they might be good for lifting:

http://www.kicksology.net/images/reviews/nike/review_shoxtl_profile.jpg

 

[anabolicmd]

Those would not be benefitial for a PL style of squatting. Those are designed for oly style squatting. (CCJ's primary style.)

He also swears by shoes like that for oly lifting. When I oly style squat, I place a small piece of wood under my heels to simulate the heels on those shoes.

Squatting is squatting, the powerlifting squat is actually a half squat. The lifting shoe I mentioned are beneficial for both. And its easier than using a piece of wood. Although, Im all for using whatever works for the individual, as long as he makes an informed choice.

 

[anabolicmd]

I've been using an old pair of run training shoes - the original Nike Shox R4 with the four shox pillars in the rear.

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Oh man, air nikes and nike shox are the worst shoes you could ever lift in. Too thick, too soggy, too unstable although they do look cool

 

[JOKER47]

Squatting is squatting, the powerlifting squat is actually a half squat.

This is a very ignorant statement that I do not want to go into with you here.

The lifting shoe I mentioned are beneficial for both.

This is wrong. You need to try both styles of squatting in both shoes.

Although, Im all for using whatever works for the individual, as long as he makes an informed choice.

That is exactly what PL's and Oly lifters are doing with the 2 different shoes.

 

[StrongChE]

I wouldn't say the powerlifting squat is a half squat. It is a different style of squat. In competition we only break parallel, but in training we do at times drop our asses to our heals.

The competition rules govern the nature of the squat.

There are a variety of ways to squat, each with their own training effect and transferance to the individual's "sport".

Anabolicmd, I'm curious as to what sport(s) you train for, and your methods of training.

 

[coolcolj]

I would think that squatting like you do would be a bitch in the flat soled shoes. Take a lot of flexibility, which I don't have. *LOL*

Well I have no problems full squatting oly style in Chucks. But it feels different more in my glutes
See the last clip I posted with band squats


I already have Ironwork Oly shoes.
well what I'd like is a flat version of an oly shoe for when I don't need a heel
But still want the arch support, rock solid stability and off course low cut style for max ankle ROM

there are proper powerlifting squat shoes, and these do have a heel elevation as well, 3/4 to 7/8 of an inch. Rickey Dale Crain's shoe comes to mind.

http://www.crainsmuscleworld.com/shoe.html
and see bottom
http://www.safe-usa.com/powerlifting1.htm

You get more leverage with a heel raise. There are Inzers which are flat, But they are high cuts, which I don't like, I need ankle ROM.

 

[JOKER47]

Hmmmm...The way I box squat, there is very little ankle movement, and the heel elevation would take away from my drive, I would think.

Might just try elevating my heels on some box squats as an experiment, though. Just for the hell of it....

 

[coolcolj]

talking about free squats here

Snatch grip deads work better with oly shoes vs flat shoes

 

[JOKER47]

talking about free squats here

Snatch grip deads work better with oly shoes vs flat shoes

My free squat is done exactly as my box squats are. I just don't pause on anything. I mentioned box squats as I rarely do free squats unless it happens to be an event in an upcoming comp.


I can believe that on the snatch style deads. I usually have to take a wider stance on those to make up for the lack of heel in my wrestling shoes. Same as if I am attempting a regular snatch. (You've seen my killer form on those before....)