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Chucks vs Wrestling shoes
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anabolicmd said:
I do use what works for me...the individual. And it IS an informed choice.
A few thousand powerlifters agree with me too...as well as many 1k+ pound squatters.
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StrongChE said:
That is precisely what weightlifting shoes have been designed to do from scratch. Chucks have a inch thick fat rubber sole all around. The weightlifting shoe automatically puts you on your heels becase of the built in wooden heel. There is simply no comparison between the two types of shoes in terms of stability, form and support .
anabolicmd said:
I'm assuming that you have never worn Chucks to wide squat in...because it is NOT a 1" sole. It appears that way...but it is just a rubber piece that goes around the shoe...it is not a sole.
Also...when I squat/pull in my Chucks...there is NO give to them.
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b fold the truth said:
Good for you. Ill stick to actual weightlifting gear myself.
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CoolColJ said:Bfold there is quite a bit of give/compression in mine
Quite noticeable when doing presses
It's about 1cm and a bit thick, there is a softer inner pad, and the sole has tread which compresses a bit.
I do find it harder to push through the heels in Chucks
Off course. Its a fifty year old basketball shoe design. The requirements for playing basketball and weightlifting could not be anymore different. Trust me, Im not about to run windsprints in my lifting shoes, thats for sure.
Anabolicmd:
I can tell from your posts that you do not know how to do a powerlifting style squat and that you have not tried it. It is not comparable to an OL squat. When done properly, the shins remain completely vertical in the PL squat--something that would be essentially impossible with OL shoes.
You are using different muscles and very different leverages. I do not know of one single powerlifter who can squat big who uses OL weightlifting shoes for a PL squat. They throw the weight on to your quads more--the quads are simply not capable of handling the kind of weight that your posterior chain and hips can handle. I like my wrestling shoes, but I put a rather expensive hard plastic orthotic inside them for arch support. I have also tried chucks and find them very comparable with the use of the orthotic.
I also do OL lifts, front squats and OHP. When I do these I use OL shoes with a heel because they are better for that purpose.
I can tell from your posts that you do not know how to do a powerlifting style squat and that you have not tried it. It is not comparable to an OL squat. When done properly, the shins remain completely vertical in the PL squat--something that would be essentially impossible with OL shoes.
You are using different muscles and very different leverages. I do not know of one single powerlifter who can squat big who uses OL weightlifting shoes for a PL squat. They throw the weight on to your quads more--the quads are simply not capable of handling the kind of weight that your posterior chain and hips can handle. I like my wrestling shoes, but I put a rather expensive hard plastic orthotic inside them for arch support. I have also tried chucks and find them very comparable with the use of the orthotic.
I also do OL lifts, front squats and OHP. When I do these I use OL shoes with a heel because they are better for that purpose.
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rbrown said:
Whats the difference in the "two squat styles"? The only difference I know of is that powerlifters dont go all the way down, so its really a half squat. What are the other significant differences? Furthermore, the reason the shins stay perpendicular in powerlifting is exactly because they dont go all the way down, and the knee and ankle joints dont flex as far! Talk about a circular argument. The "two squats" are not only comparable, they are exactly the same, the only difference being that the powerlifting squat only goes through 50-60% of the range of motion.
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