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MattTheSkywalker

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Hi. I am retiring my Saturn and getting a new car. For those of you who have been here a while, you know the retirement of the "Silver Chariot" is a sad thing. But it is necessary at approx 160K miles.

I don't see a lot of cars i really like out there. I only like the Crossfire and the SC430

I looked at Aston Martins briefly, I may get one, but I am looking for a daily use vehicle. Amazingly, this city (Jacksonville) has a great British car mechanic. So I am down to these two. Which would you rather have? I have a Lexus GS 300, love it very much.

Also, any suggestions are welcomed, but I am not interested in

MB
BMW
Audi
Porsche
Corvette
Dodge Viper
350Z
Ferrari/Lamborghini etc (no good mechanics for those here, like the Aston Martin, too much stress to drive)
any SUV


Thanks.
 
Have you driven the Mazda RX8 ?
Low attention factor, reliable, fast and not everyone and their brother driving one.

Of your 2, I see you in the 430
 
I need my 626 to get me to 150K. I like the Lexus for no apparent reason.
 
A co-worker just got the new dogde station wagon, she loves it.
The crossfire looks great, but also pretty damn small.
 
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i also think the crossfire is nice looking.

do you not like acuras? i think my pops is getting an RL soon.

honda s2000?

g35 coupe?
 
Of the two you listed I would go with the Lexus. The crossfire seems like a weird mix of Mercedes and Chrysler parts. I get scared when car companies start mixing parts from their different lines.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Hi. I am retiring my Saturn and getting a new car. For those of you who have been here a while, you know the retirement of the "Silver Chariot" is a sad thing. But it is necessary at approx 160K miles.

I don't see a lot of cars i really like out there. I only like the Crossfire and the SC430

I looked at Aston Martins briefly, I may get one, but I am looking for a daily use vehicle. Amazingly, this city (Jacksonville) has a great British car mechanic. So I am down to these two. Which would you rather have? I have a Lexus GS 300, love it very much.

Also, any suggestions are welcomed, but I am not interested in

MB
BMW
Audi
Porsche
Corvette
Dodge Viper
350Z
Ferrari/Lamborghini etc (no good mechanics for those here, like the Aston Martin, too much stress to drive)
any SUV


Thanks.
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Unless it's the supercharged Crossfire, say nay. How these two cars are getting mentioned in the same breath.......I have no idea.

Under 35k = Infiniti G35 Coupe or Sedan (only because of the brands you have eliminated)

Over 35K = SC430 or the new GS when it hits.
 
pitbullstl said:
Unless it's the supercharged Crossfire, say nay. How these two cars are getting mentioned in the same breath.......I have no idea.

Under 35k = Infiniti G35 Coupe or Sedan (only because of the brands you have eliminated)

Over 35K = SC430 or the new GS when it hits.
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G35 I have heard good things about, I'll look.

Crossfire I just think looks kinda cool, your advice, though, I will heed.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Hi. I am retiring my Saturn and getting a new car. For those of you who have been here a while, you know the retirement of the "Silver Chariot" is a sad thing. But it is necessary at approx 160K miles.

I don't see a lot of cars i really like out there. I only like the Crossfire and the SC430

I looked at Aston Martins briefly, I may get one, but I am looking for a daily use vehicle. Amazingly, this city (Jacksonville) has a great British car mechanic. So I am down to these two. Which would you rather have? I have a Lexus GS 300, love it very much.

Also, any suggestions are welcomed, but I am not interested in

MB
BMW
Audi
Porsche
Corvette
Dodge Viper
350Z
Ferrari/Lamborghini etc (no good mechanics for those here, like the Aston Martin, too much stress to drive)
any SUV


Thanks.
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Good to see you not looking for a penis extending car. ;) Nissan Maxima or Altima are pretty decent rides. Maxima has the performance of a sports car with out the hey look at me factor.
 
Like pittbull said, forget the Crossfire unless you get the supercharged one. That one runs around $50K though if I'm not mistaken.

Problem with both of the cars you listed is that they lean slightly toward the effeminate side. I would drive an SC430 in a hearbeat if I was handed one obviously, but the majority of people I see driving them are trophy wives.

Get a G35 coupe - imho best looking car on the road under $40K.

No interest in the new SLK 350?
 
the sc is pretty slick
havent seen any reports on the crossfire, but i wouldnt risk it

i would maybe look into the S4 cab, if you want to go a lil higher in price
 
for your purposes and style, i think an M5 would be completely perfect, but wouldnt really make a lot of sense if you already own a luxury sedan. I have a (read: my mom owns it but i drive it) g35 4 door, never driven the coupe before but the 4 door is amazing so i can only imagine the coupe is even better. For the dollar, this is my favorite car on the market. And it makes sense for you because you obviously don't want a really pimp car for day to day stuff, so this is just pimp enough that you dont mind driving the shit out of it, but its fun to drive too.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
G35 I have heard good things about, I'll look.

Crossfire I just think looks kinda cool, your advice, though, I will heed.
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A friend on mine just bought one (G35) - he's completely bummed by the choice.
 
supersizeme said:
Problem with both of the cars you listed is that they lean slightly toward the effeminate side. I would drive an SC430 in a hearbeat if I was handed one obviously, but the majority of people I see driving them are trophy wives.

Get a G35 coupe - imho best looking car on the road under $40K.

No interest in the new SLK 350?
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the G35 is just as girlie as the others...
 
supersizeme said:
Like pittbull said, forget the Crossfire unless you get the supercharged one. That one runs around $50K though if I'm not mistaken.
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Lexus is approx 70K; I have heard some anecdotal things about the Crossfire, that it's pretty cool, etc. No real experience with it to date. I just think it's kinda funky looking. Not the usual way to buy a car, but I am not the usual kind of buyer. :)


Problem with both of the cars you listed is that they lean slightly toward the effeminate side. I would drive an SC430 in a hearbeat if I was handed one obviously, but the majority of people I see driving them are trophy wives.
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lol. I know. I am pretty secure in my masculinity and sexuality though. I exude so much test these cars might grow hair :)

Get a G35 coupe - imho best looking car on the road under $40K.

No interest in the new SLK 350?
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Dentists and their ilk have runied MBs for me. Likewise BMWs. I don;t want or need a car that is identified with status symbol seekers; to some degree the SC430 might be, but not like MB/BMW.

I will look into the G35.
 
Robert Jan said:
Lexus = Toyota

What about rovers or daimlers? or jags?
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Rovers are all SUV types
Jags - Ford (LOL)

The higher end Lexus's are pretty good, I've driven a few and while I'm not sure I'd buy one they do drive quite well and everyone I know that has one have loved them.

Daimler - see Jag.
 
my dad has one they are pretty fast. the sc430 is about 6 seconds flat for the 0-60. the sc430's are quite nice cars, they do attract attention.very reliable, just somewhat pricey.
 
I also vote for the Infiniti G35.

The Crossfire is just a Mercedes SLK with a different body anyway.

Your red list pretty much eliminates every decent car in the $40K-$100K category. At some point you have to learn to ignore the "image" of the car and just pick the one that feels best in a test drive.
 
LOL Never seen a rover SUV

It just struck me that Landrovers are Rovers, as are range rovers. Never realised that lol. stupid

Anyway a large rover sedan, business edition is pretty nice IMO
 
The SC430 is ugly, and gay. It looks like someone stuck an air hose up an SLK's butt and over-inflated it.
 
Matty what about a Bently or a Rolls now that screams bling bling. ;) I still stand behind my original choices even if they are comman. :p
 
Mr. dB said:
How so?
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Well, I asked him "so how do you like your car" - "eh"
"Does it drive well?" - "it's ok"
"Miss the convertible?" - "not now, but I will come spring"
"What made you buy an Infinity?" - "I couldn't afford the new Benz I wanted."

That was like a week ago.

Not sure why he didn't just keep his other Benz until he could get the car he wanted. *shrug* He's gone through a lot of weird backward car selections since I've known him - all of them the influence of his girlfriend. :rolleyes:
HAHAHA I still remember when she talked him into a big silver metallic deisel pick up truck "to go surfing".

I don't like the exterior of the car at all - looks like an overly angular eclipse yet the interior's not horrible

But you know, to each his/her own.

It's all about how the car drives and what YOU like not what others think.
 
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Robert Jan said:
All the more reason to get one IMO

In black, preferably
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They are not available here. And you can't just bring one over, they haven't been crash tested for US certification, don't have the right kind of lights or glass, don't have the right kind of bumpers, the engine hasn't been certified for US smog laws. The effort and expense it would take to make one street legal in the USA would far outweigh the value of the car.
 
I can't imagine buying a car right now - with the exception of the mini cooper s or a X5 there's nothing below or up to the top of my price range that turns me on.

So it looks like I will be driving my car until it coughs up and engine block or loses body panels while driving.

AH well.
 
Mr. dB said:
They are not available here. And you can't just bring one over, they haven't been crash tested for US certification, don't have the right kind of lights or glass, don't have the right kind of bumpers, the engine hasn't been certified for US smog laws. The effort and expense it would take to make one street legal in the USA would far outweigh the value of the car.
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bring one to alabama
no certs tests,no nothing
tag it and drive it
fast too,we're short on state troopers
 
jackangel said:
i also think the crossfire is nice looking.

do you not like acuras? i think my pops is getting an RL soon.

honda s2000?

g35 coupe?
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I also agree with jack_angel look at the Infiniti G-35.
 
mordy said:
My list would be:

Acura TSX and TL

G35 Sedan or Coupe

Subaru Legacy GT (seriously, its a nice car).
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Dude, you have great tase in cars! Two of those are cars i'm considering for myslef. hte G-35 and the Subaru Legacy GT Ltd.
 
If you don't want a MB, why the Crossfire? It's a low end rebadged MB.

The SC's are nice, but sorta feminine and (IMO) over priced.

The G35 coupe/sedan's are real nice. I have seen both up close and have driven the coupe.

The G35 sedan looks a little plain even with the sports package, but is a very well rounded and balanced car.

If you can hold off, Lexus will be introducing several new models (can't wait to see the new IS) within the next 14 months or so.

Lexus is #1 in the luxury market, but have been losing market share due to a lack of competitive models.

That's gonna all change soon.
 
LOL

Last Time i saw Matt he was tooling in a Pontiac compact....lolol
 
BradG said:
Dude, you have great tase in cars! Two of those are cars i'm considering for myslef. hte G-35 and the Subaru Legacy GT Ltd.
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Thanks. I have a WRX i've nicely upgraded, but i am getting a new dog so i need something i can fit a carrier for a moderatly large hunting dog in. So, i will either have to get a wagon or a pickup.

Luckily I can get a WRX wagon and move most of my upgrades over to it. (upgrades being performance bits)
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Hi. I am retiring my Saturn and getting a new car. For those of you who have been here a while, you know the retirement of the "Silver Chariot" is a sad thing. But it is necessary at approx 160K miles.

I don't see a lot of cars i really like out there. I only like the Crossfire and the SC430

I looked at Aston Martins briefly, I may get one, but I am looking for a daily use vehicle. Amazingly, this city (Jacksonville) has a great British car mechanic. So I am down to these two. Which would you rather have? I have a Lexus GS 300, love it very much.

Also, any suggestions are welcomed, but I am not interested in

MB
BMW
Audi
Porsche
Corvette
Dodge Viper
350Z
Ferrari/Lamborghini etc (no good mechanics for those here, like the Aston Martin, too much stress to drive)
any SUV


Thanks.
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Infinity G35 bor. Trust me, bang for the buck, I couldn't find any better. The Coupe version is less than 40K with 280HP and 270lbs of torque. Brembo brakes and 18" wheels. Front seat are A+. back seats ? Who cares.

Anyway, between the Crossfire and the SC430, I'd go with the latest simply cuz they're not in the same league at all. We're comparing a 215HP car (using the same 3.2L engine as many Benz) with a 300HP beast. The SC430 owns the crossfire on most aspects except the look (IMHO).
 
mordy said:
Thanks. I have a WRX i've nicely upgraded, but i am getting a new dog so i need something i can fit a carrier for a moderatly large hunting dog in. So, i will either have to get a wagon or a pickup.

Luckily I can get a WRX wagon and move most of my upgrades over to it. (upgrades being performance bits)
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That's cool man. I'd consider the WRX but I'm not crazy about the interior. The Legacy GT has the STI engine right? This leads me to believe that it will be highly tunable in a short time. Is this your opinion?
 
rsnoble-im-back said:
Matt-I think you would look spectacular in a Ford Festiva.
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As one of my brother's NFL teammates used to say
"it's not the size of the car that matters,it's the size of the arm hangin' out the window"
 
The Shadow said:
LOL

Last Time i saw Matt he was tooling in a Pontiac compact....lolol
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Word, that phucking thing almost killed us like three times, never seen a blind spot like that in my life.

Pontiac exists to service rental fleets, and Jill didn;t know about what a piece of shit that thing was until it was rented.

:) funny stuff. Did you go to Helen GA for Octoberfest?
 
So I will add the G-35 to the list; everyone I know off of this board said the same thing.

I saw a cool looking Crossfire in traffic, I thought I might be interested, you guys have talked me down.

Aston Martin, Ferrari etc., too much stress at this point...I have enough.

I am partial toward the SC430; I just think they look cool and as a Lexus owner I am pretty happy with the make in general.

Feminine? Maybe. But I can deal with it.
 
LMAO....90% of the people on this thread acting as if they are buying "these" cars....and the cars they call junk are still out of their league.
 
beastboy said:
LMAO....90% of the people on this thread acting as if they are buying "these" cars....and the cars they call junk are still out of their league.
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don't worry, my Internet filter is on. :)
 
beastboy said:
LMAO....90% of the people on this thread acting as if they are buying "these" cars....and the cars they call junk are still out of their league.
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How the hell are ya?? Things are better I hope. :)
 
pitbullstl said:
How the hell are ya?? Things are better I hope. :)
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Okay...we have our days....just waiting till we can start trying again for another baby...and trying to figure out what I want to do with my career/business.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
So I will add the G-35 to the list; everyone I know off of this board said the same thing.

I saw a cool looking Crossfire in traffic, I thought I might be interested, you guys have talked me down.

Aston Martin, Ferrari etc., too much stress at this point...I have enough.

I am partial toward the SC430; I just think they look cool and as a Lexus owner I am pretty happy with the make in general.

Feminine? Maybe. But I can deal with it.
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If you like the look, go for it. You can't go wrong with the SC430. It's a 300HP car unlike the Crossfire. It comes with an auto tranny only (dunno if you're a die hard manual box).

But make sure you test drive the G35 coupe before ;)
 
The Nature Boy said:
Can't go wrong with a Lexus. They put out solid cars.
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I really like my ES300. Had it for two years now and not a single problem. Everything about it is quality. Can't wait for the new IS to come out.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Word, that phucking thing almost killed us like three times, never seen a blind spot like that in my life.

Pontiac exists to service rental fleets, and Jill didn;t know about what a piece of shit that thing was until it was rented.

:) funny stuff. Did you go to Helen GA for Octoberfest?
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nothing handles better than a rental car,pontiac or not
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Also, any suggestions are welcomed, but I am not interested in

MB
BMW
Audi
Porsche
Corvette
Dodge Viper
350Z
Ferrari/Lamborghini etc (no good mechanics for those here, like the Aston Martin, too much stress to drive)
any SUV
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This is almost an inclusive list of all cars in the US over $35K. Since you consider them all to be stigmatized, what does this say about your opinion of people with money? :)

Are you looking for a daily driver, or a fun toy? Since you already have the Morgan and a big Lexus sedan, which have the sports car and luxury car fields covered, I think the third car should be something more utilitarian, something you can use for shopping, that you can load up with groceries or stuff from Lowe's or a big screen TV. Since an SUV is out of the question, may I suggest a station wagon? The Subaru Legacy wagon might be a good choice, or even the WRX wagon or Saab 9-2x. Or how about the Saab 9-5 SportWagon?
 
I don't really understand this as your choices are contradicting in a way. You don't want a Nissan 350Z but are going with the Infiniti G35?? They are virtually identical cars. Moreover, I don't know about down there but G35's are extremely common vehicles up here (that's b/c they are one of the best 'bang for your buck' vehicles so it's one of the better "deals"). From your choice of vehicles I doubt quality and best bang for your buck are all that high (CHRYSLER Crossfire is not quality, Lexus is a scaled up pricier Toyota).

Also, why wait for a supercharged Crossfire? It doesn't seem like performance is what you're after because there are better performing competing vehicles in the same car class as those two. If you want a more powerful Crossfire why not get a MB SLK350 or better yet the SLK55 AMG? The MB SLK55 AMG is essentially a scaled up version of the Crossfire (supercharger or not). The Crossfire is a re-badged MB SLK. Although the price difference between the Chrysler and MB are substantial, I doubt that matters much given the fact that you are considering the 70K Lexus and the SLK55 is right around there anyway.

You haven't listed what criteria you are looking for in a vehicle; however, given your choices of vehicle I can only conclude that quality, price, performance, and 'brand name' don't matter much to you.

I'll go against the grain here and recommend the Toyota Solara (which comes in a convertible version) and Toyota Prius (hybrid vehicle). The Solara looks like an SC430 though you don't see too many people driving one, while the Prius is a damn hoot to drive and looks very distinctive. Check out the Infiniti FX series, the Acura lineup, and the Mazda RX-8 as well.
 
Check this out Matt:

http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/2005/camrysolara/exterior.html

The Solara is essentially a more user-friendly SC430. Bigger trunk and more space all around, better fuel economy, and a good 40K less expensive. It would make a better daily driver then the SC430. If you don't think that dentists and their ilk also apply to the Lexus brand (ESPECIALLY the SC430) then you are sadly mistaken. With the Toyota Solara you won't be associated with that same stigma, yet get almost all the perks of the SC430.

I should also note that the Toyota Prius is one of the most unique vehicles you will ever drive and has an interior design scheme that is beyond this world.
 
I've driven a few G35's (coupes and sedans). Get a manual tranny coupe if you go this route.

Personally I love the Acura TL. Sport sedan with 270hp. Good looks, reliability and performance. These are very very nice imo.
 
Mr. dB said:
No, the Solara is a Camry with two doors.
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You obviously have not seen the Solara.

Yes technically the Solara is classified as a "Camry Solara" but it clearly has styling cues from the Lexus brand as it was intended. The "Camry Solara" has a slightly more powerful engine and NOTICEABLY different exterior/interior then the Camry. The exterior of the Solara has almost the exact same lines and flow as the SC430. There is no doubting that the Camry Solara looks extremely similar to the Lexus SC430. That is why most reports on the Solara say,

"The new Solara's styling on the outside seems to have a Camry-meets-Lexus-SC 430 philosophy."

"The new Solara has a sweeping console, large, bright gauges, almost-Lexus-look controls and thoughtful touches, such as new seatbelt extensions that make it easier for front-seat riders to reach their shoulder belts."
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
So I will add the G-35 to the list; everyone I know off of this board said the same thing.

I saw a cool looking Crossfire in traffic, I thought I might be interested, you guys have talked me down.

Aston Martin, Ferrari etc., too much stress at this point...I have enough.

I am partial toward the SC430; I just think they look cool and as a Lexus owner I am pretty happy with the make in general.

Feminine? Maybe. But I can deal with it.
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Honestly, Matt the reason the have the "feminine" stigma is you (I) tend to see mainly women driving them.

They're hot cars. I saw one as a Lexus dealership with some really nice 19's on it and it was smooooooth.
 
wutangnomo said:
Check this out Matt:

http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/2005/camrysolara/exterior.html

The Solara is essentially a more user-friendly SC430. Bigger trunk and more space all around, better fuel economy, and a good 40K less expensive. It would make a better daily driver then the SC430. If you don't think that dentists and their ilk also apply to the Lexus brand (ESPECIALLY the SC430) then you are sadly mistaken. With the Toyota Solara you won't be associated with that same stigma, yet get almost all the perks of the SC430.
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I've seen that car, it's stylish, it's not for me. It comes off as a "look-alike" car, the cheapened version of the real thing.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
I've seen that car, it's stylish, it's not for me. It comes off as a "look-alike" car, the cheapened version of the real thing.
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Not to mention V6 as opposed to a V8.....no comparison IMO....other than the frame and body.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Hi. I am retiring my Saturn and getting a new car. For those of you who have been here a while, you know the retirement of the "Silver Chariot" is a sad thing. But it is necessary at approx 160K miles.

I don't see a lot of cars i really like out there. I only like the Crossfire and the SC430

I looked at Aston Martins briefly, I may get one, but I am looking for a daily use vehicle. Amazingly, this city (Jacksonville) has a great British car mechanic. So I am down to these two. Which would you rather have? I have a Lexus GS 300, love it very much.

Also, any suggestions are welcomed, but I am not interested in

MB
BMW
Audi
Porsche
Corvette
Dodge Viper
350Z
Ferrari/Lamborghini etc (no good mechanics for those here, like the Aston Martin, too much stress to drive)
any SUV


Thanks.
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You know, I like you and all that, and you're a cool guy, but you sure do talk a lot of $#1+ for a guy who drives a Saturn.

The Crossfire doesn't have enough engine. Wait a year for the Turbo charged version.
 
wutangnomo said:
You obviously have not seen the Solara.

Yes technically the Solara is classified as a "Camry Solara" but it clearly has styling cues from the Lexus brand as it was intended. The "Camry Solara" has a slightly more powerful engine and NOTICEABLY different exterior/interior then the Camry. The exterior of the Solara has almost the exact same lines and flow as the SC430. There is no doubting that the Camry Solara looks extremely similar to the Lexus SC430. That is why most reports on the Solara say,

"The new Solara's styling on the outside seems to have a Camry-meets-Lexus-SC 430 philosophy."

"The new Solara has a sweeping console, large, bright gauges, almost-Lexus-look controls and thoughtful touches, such as new seatbelt extensions that make it easier for front-seat riders to reach their shoulder belts."
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I've seen plenty of them.

Regardless of what the stylists did, underneath all that it runs a Camry engine and chassis. It is nothing more than a 2-door Camry. Period.
 
Synpax said:
You know, I like you and all that, and you're a cool guy, but you sure do talk a lot of $#1+ for a guy who drives a Saturn.

The Crossfire doesn't have enough engine. Wait a year for the Turbo charged version.
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Also have a Lexus and a Morgan. What does that have to do with anything?

The 05 crossfire does (SRT?)
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Also have a Lexus and a Morgan. What does that have to do with anything?

The 05 crossfire does (SRT?)
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Just busting your balls there.

Yes, the SRT. I was thinking 04, silly me.

What is a Morgan?

A good site for looking at and comparing all these cars at once is the www.carsdirect.com site.
 
Synpax said:
Just busting your balls there.

Yes, the SRT. I was thinking 04, silly me.

What is a Morgan?

A good site for looking at and comparing all these cars at once is the www.carsdirect.com site.
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Good link, thanks

Morgans are like MGs, old British roadsters, but they are making a comeback these days; a 2005 is out for about $120K.
 
ceo said:
Personally I love the Acura TL. Sport sedan with 270hp. Good looks, reliability and performance. These are very very nice imo.
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This is a nice car. Have you looked at this one? It would be kind of redundant if you have a GS.

Are you looking specifically for a coupe?
 
Your rationale doesn't make any sense.

The Chrysler Crossfire is a look-alike cheapened version of the MB SLK series. Crossfire is to SLK as Solara is to SC430.

pitbullstl said:
Not to mention V6 as opposed to a V8.....no comparison IMO....other than the frame and body.
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You're right there is no comparison between the Solara and SC430 as the former is a V6 and the latter is a V8.

Just as there is no comparison between the Crossfire SRT and SLK55 AMG since the Crossfire is a V6 and the SLK55 is a V8. Not to mention that the SLK is a hardtop convertible yet it can still outperform the Crossfire. If Matt is all about performance then he should not even consider the Crossfire as there is an even better "Crossfire" version in the form of the SLK55 AMG. Your rationale doesn't make sense as well.
 
wutangnomo said:
Your rationale doesn't make any sense.

The Chrysler Crossfire is a look-alike cheapened version of the MB SLK series. Crossfire is to SLK as Solara is to SC430.



You're right there is no comparison between the Solara and SC430 as the former is a V6 and the latter is a V8.

Just as there is no comparison between the Crossfire SRT and SLK55 AMG since the Crossfire is a V6 and the SLK55 is a V8. Not to mention that the SLK is a hardtop convertible yet it can still outperform the Crossfire. If Matt is all about performance then he should not even consider the Crossfire as there is an even better "Crossfire" version in the form of the SLK55 AMG. Your rationale doesn't make sense as well.
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I ruled out MB from the get go.

They're still out. I appreciate the input on the Solara, it's just not for me.

Rationale? maybe I am being irrational. But MB is out.
 
XBiker said:
Give it up dude, he doesn't want the Solara...
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lol

I don't care what Matt gets... Solara, Crossfire, 18 wheeler, Yugo, school bus, etc.

I'm merely pointing out the contradicting rationale being used.

What about a Caddy XLR, STS, or CTS-v?
 
Then once you get your G35 coupe, let me suggest you a Twin Turbo GReddy kit with Type-T external wastegates. That's 400HP orb. You'll love it.
 
wutangnomo said:
I don't really understand this as your choices are contradicting in a way. You don't want a Nissan 350Z but are going with the Infiniti G35?? They are virtually identical cars.
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They do not have identical images though, and Matt appears to be image-conscious. Hence his disdain for dentist-cars. The G35 has a more mature image than the boy-racer 350Z.
 
Mr. dB said:
MattTheSkywalker said:
Hi. I am retiring my Saturn and getting a new car. For those of you who have been here a while, you know the retirement of the "Silver Chariot" is a sad thing. But it is necessary at approx 160K miles.

I don't see a lot of cars i really like out there. I only like the Crossfire and the SC430

I looked at Aston Martins briefly, I may get one, but I am looking for a daily use vehicle. Amazingly, this city (Jacksonville) has a great British car mechanic. So I am down to these two. Which would you rather have? I have a Lexus GS 300, love it very much.

Also, any suggestions are welcomed, but I am not interested in

MB
BMW
Audi
Porsche
Corvette
Dodge Viper
350Z
Ferrari/Lamborghini etc (no good mechanics for those here, like the Aston Martin, too much stress to drive)
any SUV


Thanks.
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This is almost an inclusive list of all cars in the US over $35K. Since you consider them all to be stigmatized, what does this say about your opinion of people with money? :)

Are you looking for a daily driver, or a fun toy? Since you already have the Morgan and a big Lexus sedan, which have the sports car and luxury car fields covered, I think the third car should be something more utilitarian, something you can use for shopping, that you can load up with groceries or stuff from Lowe's or a big screen TV. Since an SUV is out of the question, may I suggest a station wagon? The Subaru Legacy wagon might be a good choice, or even the WRX wagon or Saab 9-2x. Or how about the Saab 9-5 SportWagon?
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sensible suggestions lost in the shuffle

The Subarus and Saabs are not the best cars out there, for the money, but when you exclude the cars on Matt's red list, they're pretty much the best of what's left.
 
Mr. dB said:
sensible suggestions lost in the shuffle

The Subarus and Saabs are not the best cars out there, for the money, but when you exclude the cars on Matt's red list, they're pretty much the best of what's left.
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Subarus are nice but I have seen way to many of them turned into a pimped out mess same with Acuras. I would have to agree Saabs are pretty decent and not too comman. ;)
 
bdog527 said:
Can't go wrong with a Delorian bro. Spend the extra cheese and get one with a flux capacitor...you can thank me later.
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How 'bout a Bricklin?
 
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