Chest and shldrs on same day?

[KillahBee]

Thoughts on this? Is it too much on the shldrs or does it make sense b/c many chest movements hit the delts?

 

[SlavikHavik]

I do it.
Works fine for me.
For compound movements i count any muscles that are hit indirectly as 50% of one set for that group.

So If i do 4 sets of bench press
I count it as 4 sets for chest, 2 sets for tris 2 sets for shoulders.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

Thoughts on this? Is it too much on the shldrs or does it make sense b/c many chest movements hit the delts?

makes sense since you wont have to do as much work for your delts on that day..youll have to use less weight but youll be starting from a fatigued state anyway so its fine

 

[gjohnson5]

Thoughts on this? Is it too much on the shldrs or does it make sense b/c many chest movements hit the delts?

I have tried this and it is a bad idea. You shoulders come into play in chest movements. How do you monitor gains in either one by doing both on the same day??

I would do one like on monday and the other like on a thursday. Give yourself time to rest so that you can accurately judge strength and size gains in each dept.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

I have tried this and it is a bad idea. You shoulders come into play in chest movements. How do you monitor gains in either one by doing both on the same day??

I would do one like on monday and the other like on a thursday. Give yourself time to rest so that you can accurately judge strength and size gains in each dept.

Im not saying you are wrong..it really depends on your goals..
I just started the MM benching program and its not recommended that you train shoulders although some light cuff side laterals may be beneficial

 

[TRUEsoldier]

to me the biggest problem is if your focus for chest is incline! then to me it would be to much taxin on the ole front delts, but who knows. In my split, I would never do it, cuz I want to ensure my shoulder lifts dont faulter after my incline benching (cuz it is my focus for now!)

Peace

 

[gjohnson5]

Im not saying you are wrong..it really depends on your goals..
I just started the MM benching program and its not recommended that you train shoulders although some light cuff side laterals may be beneficial

You know it's funny , I want to thank you for pointing out metal militia to me. But now I'm using metal militia against you


The metal militia bench press technique is a power lifting technique that uses a narrower grip, arched back, drop barbell low, etc... Such a technique will reduce shoulder rotation but will place more stress on anterior delt and tricep. Having said this you will be placing much stress on your shoulder while benching. I would agree that side laterals shouldn't do much stress to anterior delts, but why not just do all the shoulder excersizes on shoulder day?

You said it yourself , metal militia doesn't recommend it , and neither do I.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

You know it's funny , I want to thank you for pointing out metal militia to me. But now I'm using metal militia against you


The metal militia bench press technique is a power lifting technique that uses a narrower grip, arched back, drop barbell low, etc... Such a technique will reduce shoulder rotation but will place more stress on anterior delt and tricep. Having said this you will be placing much stress on your shoulder while benching. I would agree that side laterals shouldn't do much stress to anterior delts, but why not just do all the shoulder excersizes on shoulder day?

You said it yourself , metal militia doesn't recommend it , and neither do I.

i would think doing MM and then having a 3rd day for delts wold lead to some serious overtraining..youve already got 2 heavy bench days...for some they may be able to handle it..this was my first week with MM and im sore as hell..im also not using a shirt though so imactually doing less work than what the routine calls for

 

[WalkingBeast]

Makes sense to me! I do it as well. My shoulders seem to thrive off of "overtraining" however. I usually train shoulders on my second chest day, which focuses on incline bench. I do shoulders afterward so they dont interfere with my benching.

 

[KillahBee]

Thanks for all the responses, everyone. I think I am going to give it a try and just monitor my rections to it. While good advice from people with experience is always valuable, I think we all know that trial and error is the best way to find out what works for you.

 

[WalkingBeast]

Thanks for all the responses, everyone. I think I am going to give it a try and just monitor my rections to it. While good advice from people with experience is always valuable, I think we all know that trial and error is the best way to find out what works for you.

Well said!! KILL THAT SHIT!!

 

[wnt2bBeast]

Kill That Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gjohnson5]

Makes sense to me! I do it as well. My shoulders seem to thrive off of "overtraining" however. I usually train shoulders on my second chest day, which focuses on incline bench. I do shoulders afterward so they dont interfere with my benching.

Do what he does... His front delts are sick!
Good genetics

 

[TheOak84]

i currently train like this, one day chest/delts, one day chest/tris. pressing rules.

1

incline
flat db
military
upright row
side raise
shrug

day 2

flat/decline
incline
dips
skulls
reverse pressdown

rear delts on back day, since their in the back

 

[DaveTSI]

i dont like training chest/shoulders on the same days. i try to split them up like mon/thursday. i cant put anywhere near 100% into my shoulders after doing a chest workout and vice versa. also to much stress on the rotator cuffs for me, i dont want a shoulder injury.