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Andre A

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I am sure some folks are wondering what happened to me... I have been trying to spend less time on the internet and more time in the gym :)

I am almost done with a 16 week pre contest program that a former IFBB BB'er I have been working with put together for me. Very different from my old ways... I'll be bulking up over the winter! Bring on the food!

Let me know what you think!

PS... Still natural...

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if you really are still natural, then youve done an amazing job. your very proportional and huge. keep lifting
 
Nice work!

Looks like you had a good base to start with though (underneath the body fat).

Must be a bitch keeping that hair down though....makes me want to mow my lawn...

Keep up the good work!
 
Mr. Andre Avigdor...long history over the other boards....
 
you have a terrific look going. you actually look much better with some weight on you, especially the face. the worst pic is the one from june 2003, TOO lean and skinny.

you don't look very natural in your latest pic. but if you can look that way natural you are blessed.
 
I'm lookin for the bottle of Exenadrine somewhere in there for an advertisement. Awesome progression. huge difference frmo april - june 2003. Nice to see us natty guys can look like we juice!
 
Great job bro. As someone said, you look even better in the last pic - too thin in the 3rd. An inspiration to us all, man
 
I am kinda leary of your "all natural clain" but regardless...... very nice transformation.

NIce Work, keep training hard
 
I am 32 years old, 5,10" and 190lbs...

And aside from an 8 week cycle of Dbol back in college I am natural... I have been lifting for the past 8 years!
 
HOLY SHIT!! AWESOME work bro! That is impressive. Keep killing that shit!
 
glennds said:
stats? ht, weight, age?

I am 32 years old, 5.10" and 190lbs right now after 16 weeks of dietting down...

Keep in mind I have been lifting for 8 years... and yes I am natural...
 
i'm just waiting for andre to post sis website (aka, his moneymaker) for him to reveal "how he lost all that weight."

hw does this on every board. basically he is a troll that makes money off of it.
 
Beachbum1546 said:
i'm just waiting for andre to post sis website (aka, his moneymaker) for him to reveal "how he lost all that weight."

hw does this on every board. basically he is a troll that makes money off of it.


Yeah and the business didn't result in ste*******gy. All the pics are photoshopped. After his pics come wife pics and then friends pics. After that, samples of diets.
 
how do you know they are photoshopped? is there a way to tell? guess i can't tell.

i have looked at andres pics repeatedly trying to decide if it is the same person. hard to tell. the eyes look different in every pic. regardless, andre looks amazing in his most recent pic. natural or not, a fantastic physique.
 
Looking great , but you are hands down THE most ridiculous roid denier I've ever seen on these boards - M1T & Cell-Tech?
 
It blows my mind when people tell the photos are not real... check these out and then have a look at my webpage... there are several hundred photos of me there over the past couple of years... do you think all of this is faked? Maybe aliens came and made all of this up... It's time to stop the hating! My webpage is www.avigdor.net

I will be more than happy to meet anyone here in Montreal to prove that I am 100% for real... I will even scan my freaking drivers licenses if it makes you bozo haters happy...

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And one more thing... the only thing that bugs me more than when idiots tell me I must be juicing cause I was able to make dramatic progress, is the retards that are actually juicing and don't even look they are members of a gym!

I am not going to start pointing the finger at anyone... but I have looked at some of the photos that you haters have posted of yourselves and you have NO business toucing any kind of juice aside from the orange variety :)
 
Best roid transformation goes to andre.

Cycle as follows:

2 grams test prop
150mcg T3
600mg DNP
100mg tren ED
100mg var ED
Quote from bdtr at AR forums and anyway why deny ur on dope?Nothings bad about it..
 
I believe the pics are you bud, and regardless if you wanna admit on what you took, it takes a lot of hard work and dedication to get there, so mad props to ya!!

I was actually thinking of denying the fact of using as well, 'cause I have also come a long way and I would LOVE to get PAID!! :chomp:
 
2BIG4URMOM said:
I believe the pics are you bud, and regardless if you wanna admit on what you took, it takes a lot of hard work and dedication to get there, so mad props to ya!!:

word. ya gotta be willing to do some work to look like that even when on the sauce.
 
as the only 'hater' on the thread to have a pic I assume you mean me? I've been thinking about getting a gym membership but those weights things look heavy & I get plenty of exercise walking to work. :p

seriously dude, you look really, really good but the track record here and on a million other forums is going to have people rolling their eyes at the repeated natural claims. roll with it.
 
if you look at his before pics you can see some serious muscle underneath the fat. only thing he did was lose all the fat over the muscle to show it off more.
 
You say that bro like it's as easy as peeling a banana.

If it where that easy the fat and weight loss companies would be out of business.
 
Beachbum1546 is actually correct in his observation... I had been training for many years before I got serious with my diet last year... The 1st 2 photos where taken 2 months before I started dietting down... as you can see the sleaves on my XXL Shirt where actually tight on me... and I still had a good V taper even though my waste was 42" :) After dropping the weight (78lbs in 16 weeks) I worked on putting back some of the lean body mass I lost while dietting down... There is much more to body building than just drugs, anyone that sees someone who makes good progress and right away says that this person MUST 100% be a juicer is retarded...

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why would you deny taking sauce ? who cares !!! you had to work hard for it anyway.......

I hate people that are not honest..... you juiced so what !!!

ACCEPT IT
 
Much respect on your transformation, but I've seen your pics several times on the steroid ology.com forums. What is the point in coming to this board trying to convince everyone you're natty?

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There's even something suspicious in your approach to the boards...like a marketing post...your first post is always your radical change pic like in 4 months saying natty and all...that shock people immediately. If all this is true, you could at least start giving opinions, earning people's trust, making some friends and then tell your story...but that way nobody believes you.
 
I think you took steroids andre. The reason being that you're much hairier in the second pic than the first!!
 
pursuit said:
I think you took steroids andre. The reason being that you're much hairier in the second pic than the first!!

Yet another Einstein here... did you ever hear about the concept of hair growing back? :verygood:
 
Today was the last day of my 16 week cutting program... I got down pretty lean, what do you think?... in order to do this I had to really get agressive with my diet and overall caloric intake... I also had to bring up my cardio level. I brought my camera into the gym to take some progress photos and decided to try slapping a couple plates on to the 'Gerard bar' that I use for deadlifting... For those of you who never tried a bar like this I suggest you look into getting one! I tried one while travelling in the states and liked it so much I bought one for my gym :D 500lbs with no straps or belt (I don't believe in them for DLing) just a little over 2.5 times my body weight in the weak and depleted state I am in now... the bottom photo was taken in the locker room just after... something tells me I will feel this in the morning :rolleyes:
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It could be done.
You were fat as hell in the befores. You could have quite a bit of lean body mass under there. If you knew how to drop it properly, yeah you could have that look. Like 8+ years of training.
But im not gonna give you an easy in to start marketing your services.
Being fat as hell and lifting for 8 years, then losing weight.
Does not make you a guru.
 
SlavikHavik said:
It could be done.
You were fat as hell in the befores. You could have quite a bit of lean body mass under there. If you knew how to drop it properly, yeah you could have that look. Like 8+ years of training.
But im not gonna give you an easy in to start marketing your services.
Being fat as hell and lifting for 8 years, then losing weight.
Does not make you a guru.

Hold your horses... did I ever claim to be a guru??? If a was a guru I would have not ended up look like I did or eating the way I used to! And I am not 'marketing' anything...
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I'm natural too, I mean, test is test so I'm natty. And PH is all natty too. I'm safe to say I've been natural since I was born. :verygood:
 
Andre A said:
I am 32 years old, 5,10" and 190lbs...

And aside from an 8 week cycle of Dbol back in college I am natural... I have been lifting for the past 8 years!


congrats dont let anyone take away that hard work from you bc they cant do it themselves!
 
Andre A said:
Let's see what you look like, tough guy!

I shave my head, you got a problem with that? :rolleyes:



lol :)

ok sorry hair is a big big deal to me and yes i am a cream buff but with nice hair :)
 
Some people break out after hair removal... this is my back after 1 month of not waxing or shaving... notice big back with lots of hair and no pimples...

Any other questions, Sherlock?
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Andre A said:
Some people break out after hair removal... this is my back after 1 month of not waxing or shaving... notice big back with lots of hair and no pimples...

Any other questions, Sherlock?
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Only you will ultimately know. Juiced or not nice transformation.
 
Did you juice in the past? cause in the fat pics you have a lot of muscle mass under the fat
 
if my back looked like that, i would get laser 100% :sick:

oh god, why was i eating a filet fish when looking at that picture, that should come with a warning sign
 
djufo said:
Did you juice in the past? cause in the fat pics you have a lot of muscle mass under the fat

Like I said before I only did an 8 week cycle of Dbol back in College... I have been lifting heavy and eating large for the past 8 years... All the hard work payed off when I dropped the fat and was left with the lean body mass I spent years building up... I should have done it sooner, i just did not know how to do it!
 
My brother in law looks similar to when you were fat. He can lift a shitload, and has always been natty. He can skip a year at the gym and still bench 315. He'd look great if he lost 70 lbs also. Gear, no gear, who fucking cares. The guy obviously trains hard and looks good. Amazing how many critics don't offer their pics!
 
nsashbl01 said:
My brother in law looks similar to when you were fat. He can lift a shitload, and has always been natty. He can skip a year at the gym and still bench 315. He'd look great if he lost 70 lbs also. Gear, no gear, who fucking cares. The guy obviously trains hard and looks good. Amazing how many critics don't offer their pics!

I would pay good money to see some of these bozos post thier pics :rolleyes:

You should show my photos to your brother in law it might motivate him to drop a couple of lbs... it took me a while to figure out there is a big difference between mass and lean mass and that I could not flex fat!
 
mikeyboy604 said:
if my back looked like that, i would get laser 100% :sick:

oh god, why was i eating a filet fish when looking at that picture, that should come with a warning sign

This what my back looks like with the hair gone... let's see what your back looks like!

The thing is I can get rid of my hair in 10 minutes but chances are you will never have the physique I do :p

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Andre great job I don't know why you are egging these jealous haters on thats what they want. Only you know how hard you worked and you should be proud of yourself thats a hell of a transformation!!!! Good job!
 
Andre A said:
This what my back looks like with the hair gone... let's see what your back looks like!

The thing is I can get rid of my hair in 10 minutes but chances are you will never have the physique I do :p

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andre you're full of it. you can stop now, we get the point.
 
What section is this again??? if you don't like my photos then stay the heck out my threads! You should spend less time hating and more time in the gym...
 
oh boy, i must have missed you here.

attn: this man has been flamed off every major message board there is. his multimedia marketing approach strikes nerves of many

whats his major staple? im natural ect..

LIAR!!!!
 
Andre A said:
What section is this again??? if you don't like my photos then stay the heck out my threads! You should spend less time hating and more time in the gym...
We're not hating, we're just calling you a liar.
 
he's a compulsive liar.. i juiced and not ashamed one bit, this guy has issues. maybe guilt?

newbies beware!!

dont get sucked into something you know nothing about. this guy is a sham/scam/spam
 
can we all just red his ass and get him out of here...we are all really sick of hearing from this guy !!!

go pitch your shit on a infomercial jagoff

Originally posted by Andre A

This what my back looks like with the hair gone... let's see what your back looks like!

The thing is I can get rid of my hair in 10 minutes but chances are you will never have the physique I do

My back is smooth and clear (no hair or acne here my friend) and I do have a really nice physique, i have posted many pics here (look around in this section and you will see) I am 170lbs, natural and lean !!! I am prime shape getting ready for my first MMA match.
 
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oh look guys another pic of himself..... geeeeeeeee woooooooowwwwww

im calling for a legion of red karma bandits to get him out of here
 
georgie24 said:
he's a compulsive liar.. i juiced and not ashamed one bit, this guy has issues. maybe guilt?

newbies beware!!

dont get sucked into something you know nothing about. this guy is a sham/scam/spam
I agree, he is a compulsive liar.
 
I kinda like Andre & his stubborn refusal to give up after thousands of posts like this on forums all over the web that all ended up like this.

out of curiosity I would like to know the guy's cycles & his real training and diet but it's all good.
 
Andre A said:
I am sure some folks are wondering what happened to me... I have been trying to spend less time on the internet and more time in the gym :)

I am almost done with a 16 week pre contest program that a former IFBB BB'er I have been working with put together for me. Very different from my old ways... I'll be bulking up over the winter! Bring on the food!

Let me know what you think!

PS... Still natural...

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you should send those pics to some magazines...... you could indorse some products.... give it a shot.... natural or not you are dedicated I bet you feel amazing ...... how much has it changed you....???
I have thought many times of just taking it easy for a while eating as much as i could to have some pictures like that send em in make some money....also would be good for trainers to have pictures like that... proof you know what you are talking about ....Love the Pics man.... Did you lift before you slimed down??? you had that biker look before not week ..now you are so pretty ha ha....
 
roidpuple said:
you should send those pics to some magazines...... you could indorse some products.... give it a shot.... natural or not you are dedicated I bet you feel amazing ...... how much has it changed you....???
I have thought many times of just taking it easy for a while eating as much as i could to have some pictures like that send em in make some money....also would be good for trainers to have pictures like that... proof you know what you are talking about ....Love the Pics man.... Did you lift before you slimed down??? you had that biker look before not week ..now you are so pretty ha ha....

Thanks... I am in the process of writing something up that I will be sending to the mags... I will also include photos of my wife and mom as well as the dozen or so other I have helped that are on my webpage @ www.avigdor.net .

I have been lifting for 8 years... so I had close to 6 solid years of lifting and eating large before I finally decided to trim down :supercool
 
to me, in that last pic it looks like you're either on gear or have been on..is that estrogen fat under nips? :p
 
wootoom said:
man im not saying that guy looks bad. he looks great.

LOL.
 
ok, all we need is a couple big karmic power kings to oust this guy.........

bran ? perk ? anybodddddyyyyyyyyyyyy :worried:

calling heavy hitters...

JOIN THE RED TRAIN
 
I have been 'bulking up' for the past 8 weeks... I managed to put on 16lbs... some of it being fat but a good chunk of lean mass as well... I am going to Maui in 8 weeks so I started dietting down this week... back on to the dreaded treadmill!

How did I gain weight so fast? Here are some of the things I did...
-I ate about 900 eggs...
-I ate about 30lbs of horse meat...
-I ate about 100lbs of vegis
-I ate about 50lbs of sweet potatoes
-I ate about 50lbs of chicken breasts

I took this shot with my new camera phone at the gym this morning...
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Andre A said:
I have been 'bulking up' for the past 8 weeks... I managed to put on 16lbs... some of it being fat but a good chunk of lean mass as well... I am going to Maui in 8 weeks so I started dietting down this week... back on to the dreaded treadmill!

How did I gain weight so fast? Here are some of the things I did...
-I ate about 900 eggs...
-I ate about 30lbs of horse meat...
-I ate about 100lbs of vegis
-I ate about 50lbs of sweet potatoes
-I ate about 50lbs of chicken breasts

I took this shot with my new camera phone at the gym this morning...
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All natural :rolleyes:

You look great in the first pics you posted showing your progress.. But in your latest pic you look like shit bro..
 
JackRabbitSlim said:
All natural :rolleyes:

You look great in the first pics you posted showing your progress.. But in your latest pic you look like shit bro..

hardly look like shit andre. you have definitely put on some size, and to be blunt, some fat. you don't seem to have problems getting rid of it though. best forearms on EF.
 
dude got pwned but it still shows his pictures!
 
This is 1 week into my diet... 45 mins of cardio 6X a week... 10% incline @ 4MPH on the treadmill... working out 6X a week as well and being VERY strict with my diet :D
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