Building my "HRT" program..

[ArmaniAK47]

I have this in the Anabolic Steroids forum because it will be far beyond average hrt..

please allow it to remain... :

I want a "baseline" beat to my anabolic rhythm that far surpasses the average human, even at peak levels.

My doc. has me on 200mgs Testosterone Cypionate every 2 weeks..

Given that delivery is 70mgs test per 100mgs test cypionate and it is delivered (assuming stability) over 14 days.. that is 10mg per day of test after it is all said and done.. Not bad, but I'd like more than peak natural levels...

I am going to try and get him to up me, in the end, to 200-300mgs per week..

At any rate: I am building onto this therapy with things he cannot give me..

I am considering this:

Every Monday:
200-300mgs Testosterone cypionate
100mgs Methenolone Enanthate (primo)
50mgs Nandrolone Decanoate (deca)

Then shaking it up a bit for my cycles, what do you think?

also; do you think the deca hurt my dick at all?

 

[Nelson Montana]

My advice.

100 mgs of enth a week

UNLEASHED daily

POST CYCLE daily with one week off every other month.

1/4 tab of a-dex every three days alternating weekly with 1/4 tab of aromasan every three days.

Once every 6 weeks -- HCG or HMG

For anaoccasional cycle, add 400 mgs of primo for 6 weeks.

Do PCT.

Repeat.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

sounds like an idea nelson.. perhaps when I've grown a bit more and want to slow down.

I'm really anti anti-e.. anything I could use in place of them with that hrt program?

any other concepts, anyone?

 

[MSA122]

agree with Nelson; 100 mg/week is better; maybe you can get that bumped a little. Your doc wont prescribe 300 mg/week unless you have documented very high natural test that fell off, or if that's what it takes to get you to a good natural level, not very likely. Every week vs. 2 weeks made a big diference to me.

As to the cycling, WAIT until your doc has your baseline therapy worked out before jumping in since you'll likely get a retest in a few months to see how the therapy is going and get the levels adjusted. I've seen several notes from people about getting kicked off of TRT by their docs since they were cycling on top.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

probably a good call msa122.. I will be cautious as to the cycling.. can't make gains too fast or he'll catch on..

as for the tests, he had me on androgel 5g/day.. he tests my levels every 4mo's.. just switched me to shots.

true, he may never give me 300/week.. but he could move me to 200 a week if I can figure out how to test low.. -shrug-..

(just kidding, of course.. i'd never try and dupe a test...............)

if he got me to 200/week.. i could accept that or add 100 with my primo/deca shot..

 

[Nelson Montana]

agree with Nelson; 100 mg/week is better; maybe you can get that bumped a little. Your doc wont prescribe 300 mg/week unless you have documented very high natural test that fell off, or if that's what it takes to get you to a good natural level, not very likely. Every week vs. 2 weeks made a big diference to me.

As to the cycling, WAIT until your doc has your baseline therapy worked out before jumping in since you'll likely get a retest in a few months to see how the therapy is going and get the levels adjusted. I've seen several notes from people about getting kicked off of TRT by their docs since they were cycling on top.

I too am not a big advocate of anti e's but the natty anti e in POST CYCLE and 1/4 tab of dex twice a week isn't very much and older men tend to need it with or without HRT.

 

[Fudge Tunnel]

agree with Nelson; 100 mg/week is better; maybe you can get that bumped a little. Your doc wont prescribe 300 mg/week unless you have documented very high natural test that fell off, or if that's what it takes to get you to a good natural level, not very likely. Every week vs. 2 weeks made a big diference to me.

As to the cycling, WAIT until your doc has your baseline therapy worked out before jumping in since you'll likely get a retest in a few months to see how the therapy is going and get the levels adjusted. I've seen several notes from people about getting kicked off of TRT by their docs since they were cycling on top.

How would you know this information, do you two see the same Dr. and have the same levels?

100-250mg a week is fine. As for the rest of it, try it and see how it goes. I would think the primo will get expensive after awhile. I would also use 12.5mg aromasin ED or EOD along with HCG.

 

[MSA122]

How would you know this information, do you two see the same Dr. and have the same levels?

100-250mg a week is fine. As for the rest of it, try it and see how it goes. I would think the primo will get expensive after awhile. I would also use 12.5mg aromasin ED or EOD along with HCG.

you obviouslly don't know anything about TRT, and didn't read the rest of the comment, so not sure why you're posting on this thread. there is a big diference between TRT and "clinics" that prescribe cycles. the body produces a trivial amount of test vs. a cycle, 100 mg is more than most people produce in their prime, rarely does more than 200 mg ever need to be prescribed for TRT, which is why people cruise and blast to get the higher levels they want during a cycle.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

I feel you msa122, if a person injected 100mg every week they'd build up to a 10mg per day delivery.. which is the top range of natural..

but as I stated.. I'd like to be supranatural, all the time..

The Nurse practitioner in this endocrinology office said they usually "start people off at 200mg every two weeks" on injections ... felt like it was a number that could be increased from her inflection..

I unfortunatly think I am going to read high in a few months.. without any extra goodies.. I need to do some research on quick reduction of test levels in bloodstream... (just kidding)

the primo will get annoyingly expensive at just over 5 bottles a year for my baseline.. but I hear nothing but good things about it..

(Nelson and the others, I do appreciate your input and advice! but I'd like to go a bit higher.. could you spare me a little extra nugget of knowledge.. do you think my idea is outlandish?)

also:
the natural anti-e in post cycle sounds like a good idea to run all the time anyways.. I may give it a shot.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I feel you msa122, if a person injected 100mg every week they'd build up to a 10mg per day delivery.. which is the top range of natural..

but as I stated.. I'd like to be supranatural, all the time..

The Nurse practitioner in this endocrinology office said they usually "start people off at 200mg every two weeks" on injections ... felt like it was a number that could be increased from her inflection..

I unfortunatly think I am going to read high in a few months.. without any extra goodies.. I need to do some research on quick reduction of test levels in bloodstream... (just kidding)

the primo will get annoyingly expensive at just over 5 bottles a year for my baseline.. but I hear nothing but good things about it..

(Nelson and the others, I do appreciate your input and advice! but I'd like to go a bit higher.. could you spare me a little extra nugget of knowledge.. do you think my idea is outlandish?)

also:
the natural anti-e in post cycle sounds like a good idea to run all the time anyways.. I may give it a shot.

You can go higher. but realize, this is for life and there are potential consequnces. Just get a blood test every few months and keep an eye on it.