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Building my "HRT" program..

you obviouslly don't know anything about TRT, and didn't read the rest of the comment, so not sure why you're posting on this thread. there is a big diference between TRT and "clinics" that prescribe cycles. the body produces a trivial amount of test vs. a cycle, 100 mg is more than most people produce in their prime, rarely does more than 200 mg ever need to be prescribed for TRT, which is why people cruise and blast to get the higher levels they want during a cycle.

I don't ever remember attacking you so why do you have this attitude with me? I was just asking a question that's it. I'm trying to understand what you're saying.

As far as you saying I know nothing about trt, how would you even know anything about me or my trt knowledge? Do you personally know me and know my medical history?

I have been on trt for three years and it is prescribed so you are in fact incorrect about my knowledge.


Here is YOUR exact quote I am refering to:
Your doc wont prescribe 300 mg/week unless you have documented very high natural test that fell off

This is exactly what I posted the question about. How is this in any way shape or form "not reading the entire post"? I just don't understand how you make a vague statement like this without knowing the patient and or his medical history.

Dr.s do NOT all prescribe the same dose per person. There is no chart which states "if you have low test then you need "x" amount for trt". It doesn't work that way.

You're also incorrect in stating this:

100 mg is more than most people produce in their prime, rarely does more than 200 mg ever need to be prescribed for TRT

200mg? Are you serious? What about people who dose differently? Where are the studies to support your claims or is this all heresay or "brology" were talking about here?

I don't do drama and I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you. I'm just calling it as it is.
 
He's right. 100mg is more than most humans produce. Everybody on more than that is doing what the OP is doing, which is trying to find a legal way to justify steroid cycles. I don't have a problem with that but call a spade a spade. People doing 200-400mg/week like some guys on other forums aren't fooling anyone but themselves.
 
He's right. 100mg is more than most humans produce. Everybody on more than that is doing what the OP is doing, which is trying to find a legal way to justify steroid cycles. I don't have a problem with that but call a spade a spade. People doing 200-400mg/week like some guys on other forums aren't fooling anyone but themselves.

My endo has me at 125mg a week and my tested blood levels are between 700-805 ng/dl.

His "range" is from 250 - 1270ng/dl

I agree with everything else you're saying. 400mg a week is a cycle to me.
 
Right.. maybe I made a mistake by calling it an HRT program..

I was meaning to have the hrt part be a little satirical..

I want something I do all the time and have as my baseline.. not necissarily a "healthy guys normal hrt"..

I want to keep my skills and strengths far beyond a normal persons.. I figured that 200mg test 100mg primo and 50mg deca would be *fairly safe* and far beyone a normal person..
 
Right.. maybe I made a mistake by calling it an HRT program..

I was meaning to have the hrt part be a little satirical..

I want something I do all the time and have as my baseline.. not necissarily a "healthy guys normal hrt"..

I want to keep my skills and strengths far beyond a normal persons.. I figured that 200mg test 100mg primo and 50mg deca would be *fairly safe* and far beyone a normal person..
My problem with you calling it HRT is when someone comes here and searches for legitimate HRT advice this thread is what they'll get.
 
My problem with you calling it HRT is when someone comes here and searches for legitimate HRT advice this thread is what they'll get.

You're right.. that may have been a mistake on my part.. and I'd hate to confuse someone that way..

but reading my actual post I noted I wanted a "supranatural" program..

how do you feel about my.. let's call it.. "year round" cycle?
 
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You aren't on HRT, you are cycling without end. I am on a doc prescribed HRT program. I have one of the most aggressive docs in the area. My schedule is 100mg of cypionate every 7th day, the two days prior to injection I take HCG at 250ius, clomid is every other day at 25mg. I have arimidex prescribed at .25mg every other day but I dont take it.

With this protocal I am above the high range of normal, actually out of range. No HRT doc is going to prescribe you anything higher. You can call a juice shack (rejuvenation clinic) and get higher doses, but that isn't for me.

Be smart with this. HRT isn't test, primo and deca. You could screw yourself up for the long run
 
You aren't on HRT, you are cycling without end. I am on a doc prescribed HRT program. I have one of the most aggressive docs in the area. My schedule is 100mg of cypionate every 7th day, the two days prior to injection I take HCG at 250ius, clomid is every other day at 25mg. I have arimidex prescribed at .25mg every other day but I dont take it.

With this protocal I am above the high range of normal, actually out of range. No HRT doc is going to prescribe you anything higher. You can call a juice shack (rejuvenation clinic) and get higher doses, but that isn't for me.

Be smart with this. HRT isn't test, primo and deca. You could screw yourself up for the long run

I appreciate your response brother.. and I am glad you are concerned about me screwwing myself up..

I am low test and prescribed 200mgs testosterone cypionate every 2 weeks.. but no ancilliaries.. I may convince my endo. to raise it to 200/week.. (that'd be about perfect I think..)

I was just looking to 'beef up' my panel with the primo/deca.. I will take caution to what I am using.. and may yet check out a rejuvenation clinic for any extra goodies I may need.. ^ ^
 
I don't see your age anywhere. If you're of legit HRT age and planning on staying on for life there's no harm in cycling higher a couple of times per year as long as you continue to have bloodwork done. If you're under 35-40 I would seriously rethink it. 5-10 years from now you may very well feel differently about lifting, about children, etc. You don't want to paint yourself into a corner. I'm 45, childless but still not sure I want that door closed for good. I've been lifting for 30+ years but I stayed clean for 20 of those years because being huge and cut was secondary to establishing a career.
 
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