Broadening Shoulders

[ledward]

What are some good exercises to help build my shoulders/delts? Im trying to gain some muscle here to broaden my shoulders. Ive been doing seated dumbbell presses, but I really dont feel any burn at all in my shoulders, only my arms get tired.

Thanks.

 

[gjohnson5]

no such thing...

 

[Lee]

shoulder width is mostly bone structure. but if you wanna build shoulders, do deads, heavy shrugs, and shoulder presses.

 

[ledward]

Well what i mean is to build my delts enough so that they stick out farther, giving the illusion that in fact my shoulders are broad.

 

[gjohnson5]

Yeah , you can build side delts, but shoulder width is a function of the length of your clavicle.

There's no exercise that will lengthen the clavicle

 

[goku_kakarot77]

is you want your delts to look big from behind , do seated behind the neck military press they will do the trick, 3 -4 sets 6-10 reps, go all the way down but they destroy your rotator cuffs

 

[Lee]

is you want your delts to look big from behind , do seated behind the neck military press they will do the trick, 3 -4 sets 6-10 reps, go all the way down but they destroy your rotator cuffs

why would you tell him to go all teh way down then tell him it will destroy his rotator cuffs? never go behind the neck with an ohp. go front of face, usually no further down then your chin.

 

[gjohnson5]

Yeah , I don't like BTN presses or lat pulldowns for that reason

Stick with in front of face. You'll be able to lift more weight as well

 

[OMEGA]

Wide Grip Military presses, Wide Grip bent over rows, Wide Grip Benching if you bench

For anyone that doubts the ability of the shoulder structure NOT enlarging
Please look at first year swimmers or rowers vs 4th and 5th year swimmers and rowers

 

[BigboyAl]

the best exercise for side/front delts and shoulders and arms at the same time...

Hang High Barbell Pulls
and Hang High Dumbell Pulls

do them twice a week after your bench press.. cut out all shoulder press and lat raises..

Hang High Barbell Pulls 4x6
Hang High Dumbell Pulls 4x10

trust me your forearms,biceps,shoulders, side and front lats will be worked out..and you will get wider..
high

 

[Mercere]

Wide Grip Military presses, Wide Grip bent over rows, Wide Grip Benching if you bench

For anyone that doubts the ability of the shoulder structure NOT enlarging
Please look at first year swimmers or rowers vs 4th and 5th year swimmers and rowers

If you begin swimming at an early age, it will help. Once the bones get set, no such thing. Don't matter if you MP holding the plates instead of the bar.

 

[mickeyb69]

Dont work you traps too hard, huge traps will give the illusion of a narrow frame.

 

[gjohnson5]

Despite popular belief , there is some ability for the ribcage to expand due to the stretching of the cartridge in the ribcage. You must in early and middle teens to do this as it takes years to develop.

The HIT folks on bb.com talk about this guy alot and his beliefs on training
http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1502695

But expanding your ribcage and getting wider are two totally separate issues. Ribcage expansion would be getting deeper, not wider. I don't believe anything will make you wider except growth hormone whether endogenous from being young or high dose jintropin

If you begin swimming at an early age, it will help. Once the bones get set, no such thing. Don't matter if you MP holding the plates instead of the bar.

 

[thebadguy54]

Shoulder press, push press, push jerk and hang snatch.

 

[Lee]

Dont work you traps too hard, huge traps will give the illusion of a narrow frame.

youre joking right?

 

[Mercere]

Despite popular belief , there is some ability for the ribcage to expand due to the stretching of the cartridge in the ribcage. You must in early and middle teens to do this as it takes years to develop.

The HIT folks on bb.com talk about this guy alot and his beliefs on training
http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1502695

But expanding your ribcage and getting wider are two totally separate issues. Ribcage expansion would be getting deeper, not wider. I don't believe anything will make you wider except growth hormone whether endogenous from being young or high dose jintropin

Interesting read, thanks.

 

[BigboyAl]

youre joking right?

I hope he's joking...

big traps make you look much wider from the front.. they do the same thing for your shoulders as lat spread does for your back..

ill take a pic of my shoulders and show you when i get a chance...

 

[Tagio]

i dont think the guy was trying to expand his skeleton, just put mass on his actual deltoids which does widen your shoulders since the extra muscle sticks out farther on either side. also don't neglect your traps, maybe a pencil neck would create the illusion of wider shoulders but powerful traps are an important part of a guy's physique (just saw the guy explained himself already earlier in the thread, my bad)

 

[mickeyb69]

youre joking right?

I'm not saying to neglect the traps, but if your traps are out of proportion with your shoulders, you won't have that nice v-shape. You will still look thick but having good symmetry is equally important.

 

[mickeyb69]

Well what i mean is to build my delts enough so that they stick out farther, giving the illusion that in fact my shoulders are broad.

huge traps will not give this illusion

 

[Lee]

big traps do 2 things. make you look like a monster, and make your shoulders look big.

 

[BigboyAl]

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huge traps will not give this illusion

big traps will make youi look wider.. your wrong..they make your shoulders flare out like a lat spread..

hang high pulls work both the side lats and the traps.. they are great for width development