i completely agree with u ... im only saying that for some men, it is an uphill battle.. i live in florida so people are in shorts most of the year.. its frustrating seeing guys who are 20-30%bf and have never touched a weight have big thick blocky calves... myself i workout religiously, eat right and use many different methods for attacking my calves, what do i get? I big vein or two down the center... i have very long calves so ill never get those big blocky athletics looking muscle bellies...