Bias opinions, False sense of security.

[liffalot]

That's part of the schtick. These guys are getting clever. They come here and make a few posts, copy/paste some "helpful" threads, and after one month and 198 posts claim to be helpful, contributing, gurus...who by the way have only done one oral only cycle and not injected anything. Then they bash mods and sponsors, calling the products "rubbish" and saying mods don't give any "real advice", and claiming bros are coming to him for advice and help after sponsors products didn't work for them.

So, he says he's ordered 5 times from our sponsors. What? in the whole one month he's been registered here? Bullshit. And none of the products have worked for him. Not only that but several people have PM'd him saying that sponsors' products also did not work for them.

When given the chance to tell what products didn't work and get 100% of his money back, all he did was cry that he wasn't trying to offend anyone (no, not by calling the products rubbish, not at all) and then claim we were attacking him. Why didn't he tell us the products? Why didn't he post up order numbers? Hell he cried about hundreds of dollars wasted, why wouldn't he want his hundreds of dollars back?

Do you see how he wasn't such a great guy after all? That he was just a troll planted here to try to discredit our sponsors and staff? And when given the opportunity to prove his case he couldn't? Then he tried to garner more support by claiming he didn't intend any disrespect or offense, and to try to point out how he was now being attacked. Can you put it all together now since you obviously didn't read the entire thread, so I had to lay it all out for you in one post? If you had read the whole thread (particularly my posts) you would have seen all your concerns addressed before you even felt the need to voice them.

Oh and medical degree? His profile says he works in IT. Chances are the pics probably weren't him either. This is the internet, where it's easy to copy/paste and look like a guru.

I banned him, and he can stay banned.

If you want to look at it that way, I can definitely see your point. And really, none of us will ever know for sure. I did read the thread and I can see the clear cut benevolent offers from needto and several of the others mods to right the wrongs and he failed to make an adequate response. Clearly he was lying about that, almost without question (either he was lying or hes a complete idiot). It not only proved that he was lying, but that everyone was able and willing to help him out.

I'm not trying to make any enemies here. I was mistaken on several accounts, but it is kind of difficult to get a grasp on the situation when the first few posts of relevance to the thread are blacked out.......

 

[RADAR]

If you want to look at it that way, I can definitely see your point. And really, none of us will ever know for sure. I did read the thread and I can see the clear cut benevolent offers from needto and several of the others mods to right the wrongs and he failed to make an adequate response. Clearly he was lying about that, almost without question (either he was lying or hes a complete idiot). It not only proved that he was lying, but that everyone was able and willing to help him out.

I'm not trying to make any enemies here. I was mistaken on several accounts, but it is kind of difficult to get a grasp on the situation when the first few posts of relevance to the thread are blacked out.......

We do not black out posts ,that is done by the members when someone gets enough red Karma or bombs then it's automatically blacked out!
You can still read whats being said ,all you have to do is hi light over the words.

 

[C0LUMB0]

The mods here try to help as many people as they can ,Needto always looks after the members here and encourages his staff to do the same.
Sponsors and advertising help pay the bills on all forums and we are lucky to have top notch sponsors here that have great products ,great customer care customer and always go the extra mile for EF members .
I'm not sure if the OP of this thread was a total clown or just a troll ....but one thing is for sure - he was proven to be an out and out fucking liar.

 

[liffalot]

We do not black out posts ,that is done by the members when someone gets enough red Karma or bombs then it's automatically blacked out!
You can still read whats being said ,all you have to do is hi light over the words.

I didn't know why they were blacked out which is why I didn't accuse anyone of doing it. I also didn't know they were readable.......thank you for that........

 

[ishaq]

lol liffalot you keepin bumpin a dead thread the guys banned let it be, no offence bro but i dont see why you keep trying to get explanations and facts the guy was a liar and needto asked you not to ask about it but you did, so i think thats why you got the response you did, but jus allow it be gone

 

[needtogetaas]

You got nasty with me over a post that was not nasty, so now its my turn.

I hope you have youre right to vote as a U.S. citizen revoked because the guys in Washington think that their special and so they dont have to listen to you "bitch" about what you would like to see done in the country.

I have had all the mods (including you) help me out immensely, and I'm seriously greatful that all of you take time out of your day to do the shit that you do for everyone on this forum, even pricks like this guy. You are an amazing bunch of people that are dedicated to self sacrifice so that others can benefit, and that wont ever be taken away from you.

With that said, what the fuck in that post of mine warranted a response like that? I understand that I'm not special. I'm not special, and nobody is special. I don't give a shit why the site is run the way it is run, and I understand why it has to be run that way. I operate within the limits of the system you have set up, and I'm fine with that. If I wasn't, I would do exactly what you said and leave.

My point was that informing those in power that, in your opinion, there is a problem that needs fixing, and demanding change are not the same thing and should not be viewed the same way.

Now, to bring it full circle, I hope that next time you write a letter to your congressman telling him that something like SOPA or DSSA are horrible ideas, he responds with "If you dont like it, get the fuck out because youre not special".

All of that said, I love this place and have no qualms with how it is run. Just trying to comment on a point of contention that I've seen as a general theme.

Only one problem?? America is owned by the people and elite is owned by Gorge Spellwen... See your making the huge mistake of thinking elitefitness is a democracy bro.. No its a dictatorship friend and I am on the top of the hill for now. And Well I am on top we will have ORDER!!! and respect!!!! and if anyone really really wants to have something changed or voice their thoughts they do it with a pvt msg...Not try and rally a protest in the public forums. Sorry Ill squash that shit quicker then the Idea came to you.

And you Signed a Terms of service agreement when you came to this forum that I bet you did not even bother to read. Ill give you the short version of that agreements ... It says we can terminate your account any time we please. Its says we owne the site, all the content in it, every single account made on it down to the last karma point...

SO huge fucking difference bro... America is a democracy Elite is not!!! That is the only option.. Now you deliberately Came back talking shit after I said not to..

So now like I said to you in the pm.. Things that happen in public can have a lasting impact. So now If I do not ban your ass for the back talk it may send a message to others I will allow this ? Which I damn well will not allow!!!

WALK AWAY THIS TIME!!!! and feel lucky I did not send you packing.

 

[RyanArnett]

I agree suggestions and issues should always be dealt with in a pm. There's no reason to blast anyone or the forum in general out in front of everyone.

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[Syringe]

hahah he got banned

 

[bluetoolpaul]

If u get banned can u still order ntbm products? I'd be seriously upset if I couldn't.

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[bluetoolpaul]

Of course I probably wouldn't try and get into an arguement w/ needto or mods in a thread....

But I'm going to try, so I can keep this thread going....

I'm sick of coming on this site and getting damned good advice from needto an the mods on here. I'm tired of hearing about products that help me achieve my fitness goals. I'm tired of buying these products or other products recommended , usually w/ a discount code, when I could go to gnc, buy shit and pay way too much $$$.

I suggest we make changes to the site since elite is lucky to have my presence. First, I suggest more pictures of kittens. Also, why not have advertising of muscle tech products? I don't get to see enough of those in magazines. Last but not least, anybody that's been a member for a month or two should have full ability to not only criticize what's going on on the site, but should be able to change it at will, since thy would obviously know what's best.

I hope this helped. If not, I promise not to be drunk before my next post.....



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