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Best Steroid for Strength?
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Beastdrol is nuckin futs
Strongbow
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mr.sagat
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On a mg to mg basis for strength, I am pretty sure that beastdrol beats out anadrol. The thing about anadrol is, that it has a very high threshold dosage and you can take a ton more than anyone on beastdrol. So maximum gains strength gains on Anadrol would be better. The strength gains are supposedly linear to an extent, (eg. if you gain 50 on your deadlift with 50mg, it is possible to gain 100 on your deadlift with 100mg.) I figure those "linear" gains die off in between 100-150 mg, but I never needed that much before. I've read about clinical trials where they administered 400mg of Anadrol a day, I would never even take half of that, but it has been done, and people didn't die.. lol
With just 50mg of anadrol for 4 weeks I went from using my seated concentration curl 1RM to doing 6 reps with it. I literally trained my legs for the first time in my life during my anadrol/sust cycle, within exactly four weeks of training I could deadlift 400. My limiting factor waslack of grip, I trained in a hot, sweaty, dungeon of a gym in the philippines with no air conditioning...Maybe I have naturally strong legs, but I would like to believe that drol helped some....
With just 50mg of anadrol for 4 weeks I went from using my seated concentration curl 1RM to doing 6 reps with it. I literally trained my legs for the first time in my life during my anadrol/sust cycle, within exactly four weeks of training I could deadlift 400. My limiting factor waslack of grip, I trained in a hot, sweaty, dungeon of a gym in the philippines with no air conditioning...Maybe I have naturally strong legs, but I would like to believe that drol helped some....
T ren-Acetate, Beastdrol, M1T
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ALIN
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I would say ANADROL and TEST SUSPENSION
balancefighter
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I have heard strength keeps on going up through pct on beast if you do it right. I am running it now for the strength gains more then anyting
yeah, would also like to know
Strongbow
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Naturally you are never gonna keep all of the strength gains from a PH or steroid cycle, but with the proper training and diet you can keep some of the gains. Example had a bro who was putting up 275 on the bench, after 3 Beast Cycles over the course of a year his max bench was 370. Now while off he can at anytime put up 335 to 340, so I guess his net strength gain would be would be right around 60 lbs. But he trains his ass off and does proper PCT and maintains a pretty high protein diet.
mr.sagat
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There are a ton of factors determining strength gain kept, such as diet, training methods etc. But here are some of the most important underlying factors....
1. How close are you to maximum motor unit activation with an optimal discharge frequency (CNS system, absolute strength, explosive strength)
2. How much of your strength gains were attributed to the increase of the cross sectional diameter of the muscle fibers or increased muscle fibers (Hypertrophy)
(It has been shown that strength gains due to hypertrophy decline slower once training stops than CNS related strength gains, so I'm sure as long as you can keep the size they are easier to maintain too)
3. How much the steroid manipulated the cns system or temporarily increased the size of the muscle cell with water (You do get stronger with bloated muscle, it swells the muscle in size, therefore changing the leveraging angle of the muscle in a positive manner)
So generally speaking in the physical aspect of things, you'll keep a higher percentage of strength gains from a compound that does not get the majority of it's gains through temporary water or cns manipulation, but through a true increase in hypertrophy.
I have taken small dosages of anadrol and had great strength gains, and I have actually kept most of the gains even though I've been off of Anadrol for a month, I think that would be attributed to, me being far from my potential, me minimizing gains in water during use (lowered increase of strength gains of cycle though) and the fact that post cycle I have been doing strength specific training which is not near as hard with protein catabolism as bodybuilding, and my cns has probably increased my strength at a slightly lower rate than my loss in muscle diameter to counter react the leveraging disadvantage I now have.
I think Anadrol gets most of it's strength gains through water manipulation just like dbol does. I would expect anadrol to give some cns related gains, but not as much as most would believe since anadrol is by far the weakest steroid when it comes to it's binding affinity to the androgen receptors.
In terms of which steroid makes you stronger, like I said before beastdrol is stronger on a mg to mg basis (most likely because it binds with the androgen receptor better than anadrol) but you can take a higher dosage of anadrol. I'd bet that anadrol has the ability of giving better strength gains on cycle and beastdrol letting you keep a higher percentage of your gains off cycle.
1. How close are you to maximum motor unit activation with an optimal discharge frequency (CNS system, absolute strength, explosive strength)
2. How much of your strength gains were attributed to the increase of the cross sectional diameter of the muscle fibers or increased muscle fibers (Hypertrophy)
(It has been shown that strength gains due to hypertrophy decline slower once training stops than CNS related strength gains, so I'm sure as long as you can keep the size they are easier to maintain too)
3. How much the steroid manipulated the cns system or temporarily increased the size of the muscle cell with water (You do get stronger with bloated muscle, it swells the muscle in size, therefore changing the leveraging angle of the muscle in a positive manner)
So generally speaking in the physical aspect of things, you'll keep a higher percentage of strength gains from a compound that does not get the majority of it's gains through temporary water or cns manipulation, but through a true increase in hypertrophy.
I have taken small dosages of anadrol and had great strength gains, and I have actually kept most of the gains even though I've been off of Anadrol for a month, I think that would be attributed to, me being far from my potential, me minimizing gains in water during use (lowered increase of strength gains of cycle though) and the fact that post cycle I have been doing strength specific training which is not near as hard with protein catabolism as bodybuilding, and my cns has probably increased my strength at a slightly lower rate than my loss in muscle diameter to counter react the leveraging disadvantage I now have.
I think Anadrol gets most of it's strength gains through water manipulation just like dbol does. I would expect anadrol to give some cns related gains, but not as much as most would believe since anadrol is by far the weakest steroid when it comes to it's binding affinity to the androgen receptors.
In terms of which steroid makes you stronger, like I said before beastdrol is stronger on a mg to mg basis (most likely because it binds with the androgen receptor better than anadrol) but you can take a higher dosage of anadrol. I'd bet that anadrol has the ability of giving better strength gains on cycle and beastdrol letting you keep a higher percentage of your gains off cycle.
Essie
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dbol is great for strenth, but anadrol averages (in SA) at 50mg/tab, whereas dbol is obtainable only in 5 & 10mg/tab. If I have to purchase the number of dbol tabs to even out against drol's mg/tab ratio, the pricing is not worth it.
needtogetaas
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Beastdrol makes anadrol look like a bitch when it comes to strength. 99.99% of anyone saying otherwise only says this because they have never used beastdrol. So ignore the feed back from everyone and only take the words of some one who has experenced them all. Not just one and then thinks they can make a assumption based of that. Ether you have used both and you can comment or you have not thus you have no say
mr.sagat
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Beastdrol makes anadrol look like a bitch when it comes to strength. 99.99% of anyone saying otherwise only says this because they have never used beastdrol. So ignore the feed back from everyone and only take the words of some one who has experenced them all. Not just one and then thinks they can make a assumption based of that. Ether you have used both and you can comment or you have not thus you have no say
Really? Here is a post (Iron Crusher @ RXmuscle, a lover and user of beastdrol) that is disagreeing with beastdrol being stronger than anadrol.
"That is a stretch. I will be honest in saying that the only thing I have used that has given more pronounced strength gains than Beastdrol, was Anadrol @ 100mg.
I've used everything else besides halo, and Beastdrol is the second best oral I have used for improving power and strength, and does well to put on the mass too."
He has used both steroids and come to the conclusion that 100mg of anadrol gives superior strength gains to beastdrol. If that is the case, then I wonder how much stronger would anadrol be if 150mg was used with no care if one gets bloated to hell...
I'm not trying to belittle beastdrol it seems to be a GREAT steroid, but to make the assumption that it is stronger than a high dose of anadrol seems ludicrous to me.
How many cycles have you done and what dosage did you personally find was the best?
mg per mg, anadrol is actually pretty weak.
In general, I found orals, in general, to give more of a strength boost.
In general, I found orals, in general, to give more of a strength boost.
I've run 3 cycles. 3 caps a day worked best for me. I also took a 1/2 serving of NO shotgun with it before my workout. The stuff is LEGIT
a good old fashioned deca/test/drol-dbol cycle will yield fantastic strength and mass gains over the course of a 2 month cycle. it seems like everyone is impatient and wants overnight results though.
those of you doing just orals or test who want to really put on mass and strength that is the best stack. i'm living proof of it. just don't expect overnight results.
those of you doing just orals or test who want to really put on mass and strength that is the best stack. i'm living proof of it. just don't expect overnight results.
WinnyPumps
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A simple Test/Beastdrol cycle is the strongest I've even been.
Test 500mg wk
Beast 30mg ed
Test 500mg wk
Beast 30mg ed
Awesome, just started mine yesterday! I'm also doing M1T, Test-Prop, Tr-Acetate, EQ, and 7g/day LCLT
instant.muscle
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tren, superdrol, dbol for strength, oh ya and test suspension
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On fourth day of Beastdrol, my first run ever of this product, and already I can tell a difference - irrefutably. I hated it sitting in my cabinet unopened for all those months, it was time! As far as strength, I would have to say M1T, or Beastdrol (or, ahem, both).
ryno9000
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Don't quote me on this, because I am not trying to start rumors, but I believe Alcatraz has run anadrol at CRAZY doses, I''m talking 200+, and I THINK (again, please don't kick my ass if this is off) he said he ran it one time at 500mg/day! ! ! He loves that shit, and claims that he doesn't bloat off it. I guess some people tolerate things differently.
WinnyPumps
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You should also remember that 30mg of Beastdrol is very similar to 100mg of anadrol thus the Beast dominates mg per mg, just sayin.
mr.sagat
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That mg versus mg thing is retarded and a moot point. So what if you get more gains off of 30mg beastdrol? You cannot safely take as much of it as you can Anadrol. Going by that idea, methyl tren is a monster, since you take less than 1 a mg a day and get crazy gains for that amount taken. The body has a higher threshold when it comes to taking Anadrol.
The same company (Syntex) that came up with anadrol, discovered Superdrol (Beastdrol) in the 1950's. If Superdrol really was more anabolic in terms of a sides to benefit ratio to Anadrol, I am sure they would have used it as a prescription for wasting diseases. But guess what, they didn't, they chose Anadrol.
Beastdrol is a great steroid, but there has to be an underlying reason why Syntex did not market Methansterone (Beastdrol) for medicinal reasons. Was it too toxic, too many sides, not strong enough, not cost effective?
Looking at medical literature, it seems to be liver toxicity. I read multiple accounts of people taking around 30mg a day of superdrol and getting jaundice in as little as 3 weeks. (No previous reasons for liver problems)
There is no way a person on 50mg of Anadrol daily will run into that without a VERY long cycle, I too have read publications on anadrol, and I remember reading about a 80 pound chinese anemic female who took anadrol for around 78 weeks daily (50mg) before getting liver problems. Most patients start getting elevated values around week 20 IIRC
People respond differently to different drugs. I grow more on 50mg of anadrol then on 60 of dbol, with way less sides too. This time around, I started my cycle with 50mg of Anadrol and have been gaining a pound a day for 24 days now.
JV
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Yes agreed. It seems like if you want to talk about a mg to mg basis, the ONLY steroid need to be whispered throughout the crowd should be Methyltrienolone. A/A ratio wise, Methyl Tren does with 1mg what Superdrol does with 45mg, and Anadrol with 49mg.
*edit* M1T seems to actually be quite the monster along side Methyltrienolone. M1T is 13x's anabolic, and 2x's androgenic as Methyltestosterone. Meaning M1T's A/A ratio is 1456 Anabolic and 266 Androgenic. Making M1T do with 11mg what Methyl Tren does with 1mg.
*edit edit* Halotestin seems to even beat out M1T by comparing Methyl Tren's 1mg to Halo's 7mg.
*edit* M1T seems to actually be quite the monster along side Methyltrienolone. M1T is 13x's anabolic, and 2x's androgenic as Methyltestosterone. Meaning M1T's A/A ratio is 1456 Anabolic and 266 Androgenic. Making M1T do with 11mg what Methyl Tren does with 1mg.
*edit edit* Halotestin seems to even beat out M1T by comparing Methyl Tren's 1mg to Halo's 7mg.
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I think I read somewhere that size gains aren't that great with Halotest, but it does give good strength gains and aggression. I recently ordered every oral being discussed in this thread except halotest because i thought it was too expensive. I'll get back to this thread in a couple of years when I've had time to try them all.
JV
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I think I read somewhere that size gains aren't that great with Halotest, but it does give good strength gains and aggression. I recently ordered every oral being discussed in this thread except halotest because i thought it was too expensive. I'll get back to this thread in a couple of years when I've had time to try them all.
Well A/A ratios can be a little off when it involves humans, I think its due to being tested on rats?? I THIIINK.
Also, some people react very differently then others to different compounds. For example, whether it be I have very sensitive receptors, or it was a great batch, in less then 2 weeks, I gained 20 pounds with no bf% gain on a relatively low dose.
As far as Halotestin goes, I hear besides being AMAZING for strength it acts similar to winnie, and is a great hardener.
WinnyPumps
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That was just my opinion but really who gives a shit? They both get you strong as fuck so what is the point of this ''intellectual'' debate? You got too much time on your hands bro
needtogetaas
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Ya but you ain't mever used beastdrol so your vote don't count lol.
ghettostudmuffin
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I've used test, anavar, dbol, 1-Ad.
Obviously out of what I have used the dbol was the strongest for me.
Give me test+dbol and fuckin godamn.
Obviously out of what I have used the dbol was the strongest for me.
Give me test+dbol and fuckin godamn.
Cauliflower Ear
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for me... EQ with test... with HGH in the mix... then Halotestin with M-drops...rip you limb from limb
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