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Seattleborn206
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Beast has to be the king of over all mass gain with little bloat but the sides can get bad if you don't run the proper support supps on cycle. Helladrol is also a great ph but you won't gain as much size as beast but there is far less sides from it and it will lean you right up.
Simply put... Most gains with LEAST sides is helladrol, period... Beast is the king for gains but the question was best gains with LEAST sides... Helladrol is the king for this
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thedarkhalf
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Yeah I second this....Helladrol or some Epi-Strong if you can find it
For what you are looking for, Helladrol seems to be the best answer. Low sides, great gains
DTune125
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Helladol is good for a single compound. Halodorl, Methly-Sten, Epistane, Cyanostane, and Max-LMG dont give you DHT issues because they cant aromatize, so anything with any of those. 6-Bromo and ATD are good estrogen blockers that will keep your body form producing more natural estrogen due to the hightened testosereone(lessen the chance of hair loss or other sides). The Andros like 1-Andro, 4-Andro, 1,4-Andro can aromatize, even DHEA can, maybe avoid those. My forite Halodrol was Halovar.
On the other hand there are stacks. Androbol was realy good till it got banned in 2010, thought it had some sides. Androdrol was ok too, all the other good ones are long gone. Im currentley using one called Titan Stack, im on the second bottle called Titan2. Im not realy seeing any sides(hairline is good) and Im making good progress, powerfull stuff though. I saw someone above mention Beast. I've known someone that used that a bit a go and realy liked that, they got big and realy cut at the same time.
Hope That helps.
Has anyone tried that PH-17 by LG Science yet? That might be worth a shot.
Beast is not for you if hairloss is a concern.
Sinister613
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How does helladrol stack up to anavar for an oral only cycle? Also how does it compare with m1t?
Hella comes out far cheaper and can it be considered a designer steroid or still just a ph?
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Hella comes out far cheaper and can it be considered a designer steroid or still just a ph?
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guiness7795
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I was looking at the helladrol stack from mrsupps, is that good? And is it safe if you are on blood pressure medicine?
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That premade stack is ok, but i prefer to put my own support supps together. Also, IMO Forged post cycle is not as effective as the Unleashed + Post Cycle combo. It does save you a little money buying the stack but I'd go for Unleashed/PCT and add some DAA. With forma added u'll be fine.
Now as far as bp meds, i've heard of people running meds on cycle. If you have a doc that you can trust, i'd say run it through them first. I will say that helladrol would be good if u were to run it with medically controlled bp as its a pretty dry compound. Something like dbol with its high water retention is worse choice if ur struggling with hypertension.
Now as far as bp meds, i've heard of people running meds on cycle. If you have a doc that you can trust, i'd say run it through them first. I will say that helladrol would be good if u were to run it with medically controlled bp as its a pretty dry compound. Something like dbol with its high water retention is worse choice if ur struggling with hypertension.
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Gorilla-Pharma
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Anything Gorilla Pharma....but my opinion is bias.
Fitguy308
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Really never would have guessed that
Actually Gorilla Pharma really is a beasty product line. Very impressed by the Epi, haven't tried the Tren though. Don't know enough about it to comment, but if Nate backs it, it works.
Gorilla is a good dude, just don't let anyone know I said so!
Gorilla is a good dude, just don't let anyone know I said so!
rustilldown
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The EPISTANE is a sick product no doubt it took over Winstrol as my fav oral some time ago!!!! Looking at a tren Epi stack in the new year maybe with some test prop who knows 
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BigMikeC
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Ph17 was designed to give the user "winni" like effects with out the nasty sides. Very try dry hard gains. Helps blunt appetite. And the liquid delivery system allows it to be effective with out harming your liver.
GetHuge180
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what would you say the diference with the diesel vs the beastdrol is?
I think the new katana 3 is under rated big time. That shit is flat out powerful! Anyone wanting to see what it's capable of, check out the logs here and at mrsupps, including my own.
Don't underestimate this stuff bros!
Don't underestimate this stuff bros!
Gorilla-Pharma
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liquidation is going on now.. get the best while you can.
freakshow85
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I agree from my experience, too. The only sides I got from Hella was an oily face with the occasional pimple and lethargy on weeks 5 and 6. Right around week 4, I didn't have to question myself if it was working... the weights got lighter and lighter. I actually got so much strength from it, I injured my shoulder... now that could be argued as bad practice, but either way, I added a lot to my bench pretty fast.
I've said it before and I'll say it again... in the following weeks of PCT, my body morphed... it was like the muscle was catching up to the strength I gained so fast. Hella puts on mass, but not as fast as beast... but for me, there is more raw strength from hella.
Now I am wanting to try some epistrong, but I still have 2 bottles of Beast beside me. Thinking of stacking some rs transaderm with the beast, but that's another topic.
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rustilldown
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This ^ I was seriously impressed with katana 3 I ordered 5 bottles katana, 2 hella and 2 epi. It's gonna be a fun future ahead of me
emdadshithi
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yes, you are right.
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