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Nelson,
You and I have cleared the air so to speak between us. I don't attack you and you don't attack me anymore and life is wonderful, although at times I do miss the drama between us.
Now, your comments to C-ditty are WAY out of line and at the very least you owe him a public apology.
You and I have cleared the air so to speak between us. I don't attack you and you don't attack me anymore and life is wonderful, although at times I do miss the drama between us.
Now, your comments to C-ditty are WAY out of line and at the very least you owe him a public apology.
Silent Method
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Originally posted by Silent Method
A challenge has been extended to Nelson Montana. Compile an argument for your position in this matter. In your words, why do you believe high GI carbohydrates offer no advantage over other carbohydrate in terms of anabolism and muscle growth. To this point you have given no such argument – only proclamation.
This is what you claim to do - expose myths and settle facts on such matters through your written word. I have given you one simple matter on which you may demonstrate yourself.
Will you put forth an argument, yes or no?
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You state: "EVERY reference you presented had to do with glycogen replenishment." Go back to post #61 in this thread Nelson. You did not read it.
High GI carbohydrate has a direct advantage over lower GI carbohydrate in terms of taking an athlete from a catabolic state to an anabolic state after exercise.
Yes Nelson, I disagree that the athlete who restores his or her anabolic dirve post-exercise has no advantage over the athlete who does not in regard to muscle growth.
As for me, I have no problem with differing opinions. I do, however, have problems with people that present falsehoods as facts and act like jerks when they are called on it.
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Originally posted by Silent Method
A challenge has been extended to Nelson Montana. Compile an argument for your position in this matter. In your words, why do you believe high GI carbohydrates offer no advantage over other carbohydrate in terms of anabolism and muscle growth. To this point you have given no such argument – only proclamation.
This is what you claim to do - expose myths and settle facts on such matters through your written word. I have given you one simple matter on which you may demonstrate yourself.
Will you put forth an argument, yes or no?
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Fine. You've said this over and over again. However, you are dodging the challenge I have given you over and over again. Why can you not provide an argument for your stance and a counter argument to to mine? You are giving nothing more than proclamation.Nelson Montana said:
Once again I must reiterate - you either did not read what I have posted, are unable to understand it, or are chosing to ignore it to save face.Nelson Montana said:
You state: "EVERY reference you presented had to do with glycogen replenishment." Go back to post #61 in this thread Nelson. You did not read it.
This is hard to react to when it's obvious you are uninformed, whether through choice or laziness, in regard to this subject.Nelson Montana said:
High GI carbohydrate has a direct advantage over lower GI carbohydrate in terms of taking an athlete from a catabolic state to an anabolic state after exercise.
Yes Nelson, I disagree that the athlete who restores his or her anabolic dirve post-exercise has no advantage over the athlete who does not in regard to muscle growth.
Then keep your hate off the boards next time you have a difference of opinion with someone.Nelson Montana said:
As for me, I have no problem with differing opinions. I do, however, have problems with people that present falsehoods as facts and act like jerks when they are called on it.
Bg Andy:You feel I contribute nothing. I feel you contribute nothing. Great. we're even. Don't read my posts and I won't read yours.
Juice: Appologize to Citrue for what? Calling him a liar? I stand by my words. He made defaming accusations that were not true and he knew it. That makes him a liar.
Silent: You just aren't getting it. How many more times do I have to explain it? You just don't get it. (By the way, thanks to dzuljas for getting it. You wouldn't want to agrue with Silent Method about this would you?
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I re-read # 61 and NO WHERE did I see how a high GI drink after a workout grew more muscle than a meal. Perhaps you can isolate the sentance. I can't find it. It's not there.
Let it go dude. Let it go. You're just being a dick about it now. And you're trying to make me look like the bad guy because you know you'll have a couple of mods on your side.
Juice: Appologize to Citrue for what? Calling him a liar? I stand by my words. He made defaming accusations that were not true and he knew it. That makes him a liar.
Silent: You just aren't getting it. How many more times do I have to explain it? You just don't get it. (By the way, thanks to dzuljas for getting it. You wouldn't want to agrue with Silent Method about this would you?
)I re-read # 61 and NO WHERE did I see how a high GI drink after a workout grew more muscle than a meal. Perhaps you can isolate the sentance. I can't find it. It's not there.
Let it go dude. Let it go. You're just being a dick about it now. And you're trying to make me look like the bad guy because you know you'll have a couple of mods on your side.
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Have it come to this? Has it come full circle? It has.Nelson Montana said:Silent: You just aren't getting it. How many more times do I have to explain it? You just don't get it. (By the way, thanks to dzuljas for getting it. You wouldn't want to agrue with Silent Method about this would you?
I re-read # 61 and NO WHERE did I see how a high GI drink after a workout grew more muscle than a meal. Perhaps you can isolate the sentance. I can't find it. It's not there.
Let it go dude. Let it go. You're just being a dick about it now. And you're trying to make me look like the bad guy because you know you'll have a couple of mods on your side.
- The fact remains you have little comprehension of exercise physiology in this matter. -
Please, go purchase a dictionary. Look up some of the big words you didn't understand. Buy a physiology for dummies book. Figure out how anabolism relates to muscle growth.
I chose to argue you before a mod even touched this thread, quite simply, because you have little comprehension of exercise physiology.
Still squirming Nelson. Get over it.
The problem is, Nelson, at times you do worse than contribute nothing - you actually detract from the board with false proclamations, standing by them regardless of the truth.Nelson Montana said:
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Holy crap.......I am saving that quote and framing it.
Bwahahahaha@more explanations than anybody
This is just too much...you tell C-Ditty he's a shitty lawyer...when you have no clue as what a lawyer does, and then you sprout this BS.
I'll give you a little analogy regarding your obvious lack of logical arguments.
What you're doing right now, would be like me telling Stephen Hawking he's a complete idiot.
At first i thought you were just being sracstic(In a seriously weird way), but I'm beginning to believe you actually think the things you type are actually true.
Thats just scary.
If you want to see what a good post is with a good explanation of the topic being discussed with both real life evidence and journal-based evidence......read my post on cholesterol control.
Thats a good post. I provide evidence to back up my claims.
I don't simply say: "This supplement is good. End of Story. Fonz says so...so everybody shut up and take it".
Thats EXACTLY what every sengle one of your posts sounds like.
Fonz
Nelson, studies are one thing and experience is another.
If you post, "Test at over 1200mg gave me more sides then gains. I think going above 1200mg is useless." That's one thing. Studies may be posted but in the end you are giving an opinion and hypothesis based on your experience.
I remember Ulter posting that Eq/anavar gives him weird joint pains. I experienced the same thing and I think it's true. Can anybody dig a study on it? Nope it doesn't exist.
You base most of your statements on your experience, 30 years in bbing, Dave Draper likes me...etc. You dismiss most studies. Yet, from your own admission you do not have more experience than a newbie when it comes to gear.
Of course you don't need to use T3 to know that it's probably not a good idea. You could say: "I think T3 use is a terrible idea and there are better alternatives'
No, instead you say something like T3 use is stupid, people who use T3 are stupid, as if you are an authority on the subject.
It took you decades to reach a level that most average weight trainers achieve in less than a year or two. That's NOT positive experience. It might have been a different time, info was scarce but hey you don't have 30 years of positive experience.
Ignore you, I wish I could. But it would be irresponsible on my part. Some of your advice is harmless, while other advice is dangerous (in terms of bodybuilding).
If you post, "Test at over 1200mg gave me more sides then gains. I think going above 1200mg is useless." That's one thing. Studies may be posted but in the end you are giving an opinion and hypothesis based on your experience.
I remember Ulter posting that Eq/anavar gives him weird joint pains. I experienced the same thing and I think it's true. Can anybody dig a study on it? Nope it doesn't exist.
You base most of your statements on your experience, 30 years in bbing, Dave Draper likes me...etc. You dismiss most studies. Yet, from your own admission you do not have more experience than a newbie when it comes to gear.
Of course you don't need to use T3 to know that it's probably not a good idea. You could say: "I think T3 use is a terrible idea and there are better alternatives'
No, instead you say something like T3 use is stupid, people who use T3 are stupid, as if you are an authority on the subject.
It took you decades to reach a level that most average weight trainers achieve in less than a year or two. That's NOT positive experience. It might have been a different time, info was scarce but hey you don't have 30 years of positive experience.
Ignore you, I wish I could. But it would be irresponsible on my part. Some of your advice is harmless, while other advice is dangerous (in terms of bodybuilding).
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Nelson Montana said:
Well, it's probably as close to an apology as I'll get... so thank you Nelson.
C-ditty
Well, let's see. What have we accomplished here?
These are the conclusions.
I am the most unknowledable human being on the subject diet, exercise, supplements and steroids.
I never back up what I say.
I can not comprehend the simplist facts that the average message board member understands.
I'm only 190 pounds therefore I suck.
In every post I say "Because I said so!"
I give horribly irresponsible advice such as "keep cycles short" and "don't use DNP".
I have no "people" skills.
I'm an idiot, a babboon, a dummy and human excrement.
Fonz is the greatest genius to ever walk the earth.
And yet, I sell thousands of books and 99% of the people who purchase them feel they gained a lot from them. My training methods have been praised by some of the biggest and brightest people in the business. My expertise on supplements has been used by a successful supplement firm. Doctors, authors and coaches call me for advice on steroids.
How can that be?
What a colossal waste of time and energy this has been.
Serves me right for arguing with morons.
These are the conclusions.
I am the most unknowledable human being on the subject diet, exercise, supplements and steroids.
I never back up what I say.
I can not comprehend the simplist facts that the average message board member understands.
I'm only 190 pounds therefore I suck.
In every post I say "Because I said so!"
I give horribly irresponsible advice such as "keep cycles short" and "don't use DNP".
I have no "people" skills.
I'm an idiot, a babboon, a dummy and human excrement.
Fonz is the greatest genius to ever walk the earth.
And yet, I sell thousands of books and 99% of the people who purchase them feel they gained a lot from them. My training methods have been praised by some of the biggest and brightest people in the business. My expertise on supplements has been used by a successful supplement firm. Doctors, authors and coaches call me for advice on steroids.
How can that be?
What a colossal waste of time and energy this has been.
Serves me right for arguing with morons.
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