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supersizeme
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There's a guy in my gym who jerks everything - rows, shrugs, curls...you name it. If you can work a jerk into the movement, he does it. He does shrugs with 495 and it's one of the more spastic movements I've seen done in a gym thus far. I can't tell if the weight itself actually moves or not, or if his body is jerking and contorting so much that it creates the illusion that the weight travelled some distance.
A PL squat places more stress on the lumbar spine and knees? lmao...that's the number one reason to not quad-squat - stress on the back and knees. To the contrary a PL squat recruits the hamstrings which support the knee joint. An improper squat does not, whether a BB or PL is performing it.
bignate73
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alright, ive had half a chicken and a nap, im nice and clear headed.
let me recap my take on this:
there is an exercise...
there is a purpose for this exercise....
there is a method of performing this exercise that will complete that purpose.
thats all i stated.
because i am 1 person, doesnt mean i dont have one opinion. part of being a professional, means you use the above mentioned "scientific method" or whatever analytical process you need, to supply someone with a suitable exercise.
in nonerz'ssessess case, she mentioned that i would correct her if her form was not right. this implies that we have covered the goal of doing said exercise, and discovered the best method to acheive said goal.
this thread was a simple one. about rows. i stated my opinion without regards to hearing every possible goal that the exercise could fulfill. others had another vision in mind for the exercise. im speaking from a clinical fitness exercise point of view, if i need to change gears and critique if from another standpoint, i can. thats why i took offense to being looked at as "1 man, 1 opinion". basically, "take nate with a grain of salt" type argument. i know PH meant nothing by it, he was just directing nonerz to seek all approaches, so it was a simple misunderstanding.
before we make a blanket statement about an exercise, we have to understand the intended purpose of that exercise. if "loose" form would be more suitable, so be it. if an angle change will target a region better, so be it.
i hope that cleared up my point a bit.
let me recap my take on this:
there is an exercise...
there is a purpose for this exercise....
there is a method of performing this exercise that will complete that purpose.
thats all i stated.
because i am 1 person, doesnt mean i dont have one opinion. part of being a professional, means you use the above mentioned "scientific method" or whatever analytical process you need, to supply someone with a suitable exercise.
in nonerz'ssessess case, she mentioned that i would correct her if her form was not right. this implies that we have covered the goal of doing said exercise, and discovered the best method to acheive said goal.
this thread was a simple one. about rows. i stated my opinion without regards to hearing every possible goal that the exercise could fulfill. others had another vision in mind for the exercise. im speaking from a clinical fitness exercise point of view, if i need to change gears and critique if from another standpoint, i can. thats why i took offense to being looked at as "1 man, 1 opinion". basically, "take nate with a grain of salt" type argument. i know PH meant nothing by it, he was just directing nonerz to seek all approaches, so it was a simple misunderstanding.
before we make a blanket statement about an exercise, we have to understand the intended purpose of that exercise. if "loose" form would be more suitable, so be it. if an angle change will target a region better, so be it.
i hope that cleared up my point a bit.
overhead
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What in the world is going on around here today..........
Anyway, I have a "rowing" question. I was reading somewhere, cannot remember where, could have been here, that it can be a good idea to start rows off the floor with a slight arch in the lower back, but with the upper back slightly rounded. Anyone ever heard of this before?
Anyway, I have a "rowing" question. I was reading somewhere, cannot remember where, could have been here, that it can be a good idea to start rows off the floor with a slight arch in the lower back, but with the upper back slightly rounded. Anyone ever heard of this before?
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Citruscide
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spatts said:
PL squatting puts more stress on the lumbar spine than the knees... what did I say?
C-ditty
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Citruscide
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Citruscide said:
Ahh.. .exactly as I thought.. somebody didn't read my post.Citruscide said:
C-ditty
I think you missed my point. 
I missquoted you, but if I hadn't quoted you at all, the point would still stand. The point was that there is a "correct" and "incorrect" way to squat, and it has nothing to do with whether you are a PL or a BB. A squat that places stress on the lumbar spine and/or knees is not an optimal squat (save for compressive force). Of course, this would depend on your definition of stress.
I missquoted you, but if I hadn't quoted you at all, the point would still stand. The point was that there is a "correct" and "incorrect" way to squat, and it has nothing to do with whether you are a PL or a BB. A squat that places stress on the lumbar spine and/or knees is not an optimal squat (save for compressive force). Of course, this would depend on your definition of stress.
louden_swain
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Barbell rows work best when strict, but when you have 315lbs in your hands. . there is a tendancy to heave the bar into the waist just to finish off the last few reps.
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