bent over rows...why jerk?

[Dave949]

i visualize pulling the bar through my stomach.

I can relate to that Big. When I row I visualize (and actually try) touching the ceiling with my elbows.

 

[Citruscide]

I think you missed my point.

I missquoted you, but if I hadn't quoted you at all, the point would still stand. The point was that there is a "correct" and "incorrect" way to squat, and it has nothing to do with whether you are a PL or a BB. A squat that places stress on the lumbar spine and/or knees is not an optimal squat (save for compressive force). Of course, this would depend on your definition of stress.

Point taken. My original point was that some may do the PL squat and some may do the BB squat. For one to say the other is incorrect... well, it's a matter of personal and individual difference. That is what I was saying.

An incorrect squat is an incorrect squat.

C-ditty

 

[spatts]

Then what do you call a BB squat? Just same rules only narrow?

 

[bignate73]

Then what do you call a BB squat? Just same rules only narrow?

usually a BB squat mimics the form of a front squat. knees going forward more. sitting in the "pocket" so to speak instead of gliding the hips back.

 

[spatts]

I guess I still can't relate because I do my front squats with my shins vertical. lol

I was just curious.

 

[b fold the truth]

I jerk the weight on rows...and I also do them strict.

Variation...I like it.

B True

 

[Citruscide]

With the PL squat, the bar is placed LOWER on the back, where with the BB squat, the bar is placed higher on the back. BB squat stresses more the quads where the PL stresses more the glutes/hams. With the PL squat -- the bar is lower on the back... giving greater leverage than with the BB Squat that is higher on the back. With the PL Squat, the bar is more over the heels -- less quad action...

the knee angles on a PL Squat look more like a 90 degree... whereas the angle on BB is more acute... greater stress on the knees, but not necessiarly bad stress.

C-ditty

 

[Citruscide]

You could have a BB squat and have your legs out wide... it goes more to positioning of the bar on your back rather than the width of your legs.

C-ditty

 

[Nonerz]

With the PL squat, the bar is placed LOWER on the back, where with the BB squat, the bar is placed higher on the back. BB squat stresses more the quads where the PL stresses more the glutes/hams. With the PL squat -- the bar is lower on the back... giving greater leverage than with the BB Squat that is higher on the back. With the PL Squat, the bar is more over the heels -- less quad action...

the knee angles on a PL Squat look more like a 90 degree... whereas the angle on BB is more acute... greater stress on the knees, but not necessiarly bad stress.

C-ditty

Sorry to drag this one out...but I am more confused than ever now!

You're saying the bar is placed LOWER on the back in a PL squat vs. a BB squat? How low? How would that change or make a difference? I am having a really hard time trying to visualize this one <<Nonerz opens her "Strength Training Anatomy" book>>

Okay, so it shows two options here...

1/ On the trapezius
2/ On the trapezius and deltoids posterior part, as in the type of squat powerlifters do in competition

I'm thinking that you place the bar higher or lower on the traps...is that right?

 

[b fold the truth]

When I squat...the bar runs from rear delt to rear delt...

I have a nice bloody/bruise/callous where it sits

B True