so basically you can argue all day about different exercises and justify bad form that way. if an exercise is meant to be "loose" in form or explosive then someone should stipulate it as such. a push press is called a push press, not a standing military press.
there are those that do side raises with dbells and dip when the weight is at the top, to me thats sloppy form. there are those that lean back when they do bicep curls, "counter balance" i dont think so.
so back to rowing. generally...the procedure goes like this:
"so and so" pushes with the legs to get the row moving....
pulls with the arms/back attempting to retract the scapula....
dips back down with the legs/torso slightly to ensure that the shoulder blades are pulled back.
i defy you to tell me thats a barbell row. its a leg assisted, jerky movement resembling a row. the reason why it doesnt have a name like "push press" does, is because there is no carryover. a push press assists a jerk or an overhead press. a sloppy row, helps.....your legs?
its a matter of priorities. if a person wants to get good at a sloppy row for the sake of numbers, thats fine. tighten up the form and how much strength is actually there? lets see, no starting strength, not much in the way of max contraction (retraction), so we are left with some midrange and possibly decelerating it at the bottom of the movement. a whole lot of isometric contraction in the erectors, and some leg drive.
sounds good to me.
so now the question still remains, what is the goal of the movement?
what does the person's intention for the movement?
from a general training standpoint, i wouldnt allow someone to jerk around like that. maybe thats just me......
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