bent over rows...why jerk?

[t3c]

maybe I am missing something here but what is the point of jerking a little durring bent over rows? Why not just do them strict?

 

[CobraUTAH]

I thought it was sort of like heavy barbell's for bicep's you need to give it a little cheat off the bottom. I really don't think it's that terrible although your lower back maybe in danger if you go too heavy. I'm currently lifting light enough still on the rows that I need no cheating.

 

[Atomic Punk]

"Strict" in what sense? If you go really slow on them, it is quite hard to get to failure, as just holding it there at the bottom for even a few seconds, allows for SOME recovery to occur(imo). When I do them(and I just started to do them again), I pause at the top, but come down quick, and right back up. NO PAUSE at the bottom whatsoever. This allows my back muscles to fail FIRST, WITHOUT allowing the biceps or the back time to recoup. If that makes any sense. So if you are going slow on them(well, at least for me), and ESPECIALLY if you are pausing for a stretch at the bottom, you(I) will cheat yourself out of obtaining BACK MUSCLE failure, faster.

 

[Exodus]

its so you can do more weight t3c. you see if you put the same amount of wieght on the bar and tell them to do it strict, they cant. so adding in some body english allows for more weight. just like the cheat curls utah mentioned, its cheating, the extra back movement is caused by the spinal erectors pulling the weight up,.

think like this....... in my opinion.

if you can strict bb row 185 for 1 and use 100%of your targeted back muscles to pull it up.

but you put 225 on the bar and use a jerk, then your using say 80% of targeted muscles, and 20% low back.

ok...... stict - 185 x 100% = 185 lbs of pressure on targeted muscles.

jerking - 225 x 80% = 180lbs of pressure on targeted muscles.

you see.......

again this is just my opinion. and here is some more of my opinion. its harder to do them strict style becuase of stablizers, actually using the targeted mucles etc etc. and i always try to make the exercises harder than normal, just like my workouts. they are supposed to be harder than a contest, then when you get to a contest, its easier........

i hope that helps...

X

 

[t3c]

gotcha...thanks for the replies

i've always done them strict and will continue to do so

 

[d3track]

they are supposed to be strict with out the bounce, but it is hard to heavy wieghts then
but i admit to small cheating on really heavy days to get the extra reps

 

[PolishHammer1977]

i've always done them strict and will continue to do so

I do everything strict. Save the jerks for the jerks. lol Sorry fellas IO had to let that one go. muhahahahahah

Seriously though I would definitely go strict and take it as far as it can go. You do not work to failure so it truly will not matter. I can tell you from YEARS of experience that you will build stronger back this way.

 

[NWinters]

I have different feelings about strict form.....I think if you are trying to strenghten weaks points then strict is the way to go , but if your working on building power and speed then I see nothing wrong with momentum.

 

[Dave949]

I do my rows (and most exercises strict). When I do jerk (whether it be rows, curls or military presses, etc.), it will be only for the last 2 or 3 reps and only with the least amount of jerk/cheat needed to continue to finish the set in a strict pulling, curling or pressing form. Lets just say its strategic cheating towards the end of a set. The problem I have seen (with some people) when jerking doing rows is when the weight is jerked (heaved) up and then instead of "pulling" the bar up to complete the rep, the person very quickly drops his torso down.

IMHO, I do believe cheating/jerking has its place and is useful, but as said earlier, (I) feel it should be deliberate and strategic in execution.

 

[Citruscide]

I've been known to "lean" upward as the bar comes up... not necessiarly a jerk... but going from a more level state to a more elevated state... if that makes sense... Again, only on the really high weights...

C-ditty