Bench press, what do you think...

[Liftbig]

thats what i like to hear. now get to work!

 

[MULE1]

PWR amchine let me say something real quick.....
1. what the fuck are your goals to powerlift or body buid

2. benching heavy weight and getting maximum defined muscle growth require two diffrent techniques.

3. You stated you want to bench 500lbs. i assume raw and I'm telling you now if you use the same technique I saw in that video, you better stock up on anti biotics and a new zipper for that pec cause its gonna blow, ask Bill Kazmier, Glenn Chabbot and anyone else who has benched heavy like that.

4.In order to stop the cirular crap you need to strengthen your brachialus period end of story. Try it do hammer curls for a mointh 5-6 sets heavy weight and tell me if that does not help.

5. Louden is right your technique is not bad for body building but benching 500lbs with this style is a bad idea, I'm sure it coulkd be done , without injury is another story

^. just because you have not been injured using this technique is like saying I drive my car 120 mph everywhere I go and have never been in an accident, wait it wwill be a big one.

7. If you don't want help don't ask. I personaly tell it how it is without candycoating it, your an adult experienced lifter you should be able to handle it. If you want your ego stroked just post , hey look I did 350 for 10 , we will all say congrats. When you ask for opinions thats what you will get.

 

[MULE1]

That was just plain rude. Those 7 years powerlifting were all drug free. I also started out at a very light bodyweight and more of an endurance athlete with boxing, running, etc. I'm also 6' so I have a pretty good range of motion, but also know that I can carry more size and it will come with time. Most of the big benchers that everyone gets so excited about have been heavier since high school or even earlier. I haven't. I'm playing this game with the deck of cards that I have been dealt.

This is bullshit, your making genetic esxcuses for your self, I had a 181 lb 25 yr old kid, lew einfalt DRUG FREE since we are all soconcerned with this squat 655 bench 465 almost gopt 505 and d/l 555
DRUG FREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes he was tested...

 

[pwr_machine]

PWR amchine let me say something real quick.....
1. what the fuck are your goals to powerlift or body buid

2. benching heavy weight and getting maximum defined muscle growth require two diffrent techniques.

3. You stated you want to bench 500lbs. i assume raw and I'm telling you now if you use the same technique I saw in that video, you better stock up on anti biotics and a new zipper for that pec cause its gonna blow, ask Bill Kazmier, Glenn Chabbot and anyone else who has benched heavy like that.

4.In order to stop the cirular crap you need to strengthen your brachialus period end of story. Try it do hammer curls for a mointh 5-6 sets heavy weight and tell me if that does not help.

5. Louden is right your technique is not bad for body building but benching 500lbs with this style is a bad idea, I'm sure it coulkd be done , without injury is another story

^. just because you have not been injured using this technique is like saying I drive my car 120 mph everywhere I go and have never been in an accident, wait it wwill be a big one.

7. If you don't want help don't ask. I personaly tell it how it is without candycoating it, your an adult experienced lifter you should be able to handle it. If you want your ego stroked just post , hey look I did 350 for 10 , we will all say congrats. When you ask for opinions thats what you will get.

Everyone knows that my goals have changed from powerlifting to bodybuilding due to lower back problems. And, yes, I'll probably do a bench meet here and there for fun. As I've already stated over a dozen times, I'm taking everyone's suggestions and working on it as early as tomorrow with my regular chest workout.

I asked a question and it took alot of beating around the bush to get answers. But guess what, I have answers finally. As I've already stated over a dozen times, I'm taking everyone's suggestions and working on it as early as tomorrow with my regular chest workout.

 

[pwr_machine]

That was just plain rude. Those 7 years powerlifting were all drug free. I also started out at a very light bodyweight and more of an endurance athlete with boxing, running, etc. I'm also 6' so I have a pretty good range of motion, but also know that I can carry more size and it will come with time. Most of the big benchers that everyone gets so excited about have been heavier since high school or even earlier. I haven't. I'm playing this game with the deck of cards that I have been dealt.

This is bullshit, your making genetic esxcuses for your self, I had a 181 lb 25 yr old kid, lew einfalt DRUG FREE since we are all soconcerned with this squat 655 bench 465 almost gopt 505 and d/l 555
DRUG FREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes he was tested...

Good for him. I would congratulate him if I saw him. Well, I know a 165 lber that can bench 465 and squat over 700 drug free. Now, I know I can be a great lifter too. Those aren't genetic excuses. Those are facts. You will rarely come across an endurance athlete with a skinny build that can move alot of weight. That's what I'm saying. I went from running 3-6 miles per day and boxing 2 hours a night to weight training. That's a whole different sport. I couldn't just hit the ground running and pull off 400, much less a 300 pound bench. It took a little time to get adjusted. Even in an earlier post, I stated a few other factors that come into play and still do. They're not excuses. They're milestones in my life that I am trying to tackle while having fun weight training. Is that so bad? As I've already stated over a dozen times, I'm taking everyone's suggestions and working on it as early as tomorrow with my regular chest workout.

 

[pwr_machine]

Just an added thought, meaning no harm.

As a lifter and coach, I use tact in the way I respond to questions. I try to remain polite and thank you for what you have shared. To me, that's the way to go about things as a mature adult. It's not candycoated, it's tactful.

Let's try a common approach. Mule, your bench form sucks. Your legs are pulled up behind your knees and you wobble all over the bench. You'll never get 815 lifting like that! Fix it!

I meant no harm in that statement because you have been successful in the bench press.

However, this is how I would prefer to respond if I truly had something to say. Mule, I noticed that when you missed 815 you were a little wobbly on the bench. Do you think getting your feet flat on the floor to steady yourself and provide a little leg drive would have helped?

Then, he would respond accordingly.

No need to answer the questions. That was purely an example of a logical way to approach a lifter as a coach and as a helper.

This thread was started asking a question about what causes my elbows to flare. Several people gave their opinions and I agreed to put those to work starting Thursday. Then others decided to beat a dead horse and just keep pounding words at me like I've done something wrong for asking a question. It was a simple question of biomechanics and suggestions for fixing the problem. Thanks to those that grasped what I was trying to ask. I apologize for some of the responses as many of you reading this post may have a similar problem. As I've already stated over a dozen times, I'm taking everyone's suggestions and working on it as early as tomorrow with my regular chest workout.

 

[Screwball]

pwr_machine,

I'll take "Lost Cause" for $200, please.

You are a riot. I think you and your wife should start your own forum and post to each other how wonderful your training is going and how no one else has a clue on how to train. I think you will be a lot happier having someone tell you what you want to hear. Your training should improve and the amount of stress in your life should decrease. Just a thought...

 

[bigguns15]

pwr_machine,

I'll take "Lost Cause" for $200, please.

You are a riot. I think you and your wife should start your own forum and post to each other how wonderful your training is going and how no one else has a clue on how to train. I think you will be a lot happier having someone tell you what you want to hear. Your training should improve and the amount of stress in your life should decrease. Just a thought...

WTF!! Don't you bring me into this! I take every piece of advice I get to heart and think about it. I value all the quality comments I have gotten so far. The only reason I'm on here is to learn. That being said, I'm not going to run out and do everything some jackass tells me to do. I need more than just someone's word.

My form has changed so much since I've been on here. It has been such a resource to have other experienced people look at my form and give me feedback, and I think my lifts are improving because of that. I've been gracious to everyone for even taking the time to look at my videos and post their thoughts on them. I can't speak for pwr_machine, but that's how I feel.

So thanks so much for insulting me. It means so much.

 

[Screwball]

I thought everyone loved Jeopardy? Hmmm, I guess not.

I would respond but it really doesn't matter anyway, does it? Keep on, keepin' on and good luck to you.

 

[bigguns15]

personally bigguns, and i dont mean to disrespect your lifting for being drug-free(i still am too) but i could care less what someone uses or does to put up the numbers they do. i want to see the big lifts, i want to perform the big lifts. i hate hearing people say they do this or that, and oh yeah im drug free, so its ok that im not lifting as much as the guys/gals that do. thats a crock of shit and you and pwrmachine both know it...

...and i want to see bigguns set world records, and if we all have to be harsh and tell you like it is, and stop being so politically correct, then maybe thats what we need to do.

I don't think I have ever tried to use my drug free status as a crutch to say I can't lift more. In fact, I've done the opposite. I want to beat everybody!

I just got a little offended that someone compared watching drug free lifting to watching butter melt, as if the only exciting part of powerlifting are the big guys doing the big weight. I like watching the big guys as well, but as one of little drug free people, I like watching them too.