Army officers

[FrankRizzo]

Fuck the Army all together dude. The Air Force is the way to go if you are dead set on a militery career. You'll get put into an Army Officer Corps based on the "needs of the Army". The when you are an Infantry Officer and sleeping out in the fucking snow while the Air Force guys are getting paid permissive TDY and per diem, sleeping in a hotel room. Now THAT is some good god damn training. Fuck the HooRah bullshit.

Just my .02

 

[booger]

You Got It

It's just 'An Army of One' these days anyway. One guy can't do alot.

 

[Longhorn85]

when you are an Infantry Officer and sleeping out in the fucking snow while the Air Force guys are getting paid permissive TDY and per diem, sleeping in a hotel room.

Wow. I must admit that is very, very true. You also spend a lot of time away from your family. But remember, that is why it is called SERVING your country. If you're not selfless and dedicated, don't consider the army.

 

[FrankRizzo]

Are you teaching ROTC stuff down in Austin ttlpkg? I think that would be cool duty.

I was an S-1 clerk in the Army. I was the smart mouthed punk wearing cook whites with way longer than regulation hair typing your OER and crying about having to go to the NTC. I got out, got a degree, and will never take another order from a man with a GED again.

Plus I started out making what a Major does. Soon I will pay more in TAXES than a LTC makes. hehehe i hated the military.

 

[bigkraut]

A clerk? Oh, I thought you had a "real" job in the Army. j/k. I wasn't lifer material myself, but I didn't think it was a bad experience. Quite the contrary. The infantry though, isn't clerking. Long hair wouldn't fly and a smart mouth would have been closed by the business end of a rifle butt or e-tool. I saw it happen. This was done to enlisted men by enlisted men. And of course, the "blanket parties". I operated in a more squared away Army. A clerk with no discipline is one thing, that wouldn't have been tolerated coming from a combat soldier. Not by anyone. I saw a better, more honorable, highly efficient, and well managed Army. You're experience is not timely, relevant, or typical where it comes to modern infantry.

 

[FrankRizzo]

The smart mouth and "lack of discipline" as you put it was derived from taking orders from incompetence more than most of the time. I also seriously doubt that even if you were weidling a rifle you close my smart mouth anyway. For anyone with more than half a brain my experience is very typical. If you were a blind yes sir, no sir, grunt so be it. Sounds like you needed to stay in. There is no honor in being ordered around by an idiot and having to put up with it. BUT, you have to be able to think that far in the first place. Some did find comfort in not having to make decisions for themselves. Me, I hated it. I didn't choose a combat MOS for all those reasons.

The smiley faces in post was an attempt to bring across light heartedness and insincerity. TtlPkg is a long time Artillery officer and I was attempting to explain to him why I felt the way I did about the military. No need for you to come in and start flaming about something you once WERE.

 

[bigkraut]

I'm sorry if it came off sounding like I was flaming you. As is often the case with the written word, things are sometimes misunderstood. Mainly, it isn't about being a brainless automaton, there were very good reasons that the Army demanded attention to detail and discipline from us(combat arms personnel). I'll just go into the most obvious. As a clerk, you had a very important job. Administrative functions are essential, so I am not belittling them. However, the job of an infantryman is very dangerous. A breakdown in discipline could get people needlessly killed. At any given time, I was in possession of weapons that could wreak an untold amount of death and destruction in a second. I think those charged with using such tools must be very disciplined. That's why I say that the standards of discipline for an infantryman would have to be higher than those of a clerk. Is has little to do with intelligence. It has everything to do with running an efficient fighting unit.

 

[Longhorn85]

I guess the bottom line is that the original poster of this thread should know that like anything else the military is what you make of it. No guarantees as to whether you'll like it or not.

No Frank, I'm not an ROTC instructor, that would be a cool job though, esp at UT

 

[frorider6]

Damnit, I posted this on Friday, hoping that when I got back today, I'd have some good information on Army officer career fields and maybe some descriptions of life in said jobs. Seems all I got was a big pissing contest over which branch is the best.

Maybe I'll start a new thread on subject this with a big fucking "NO WHINING, BITCHING, OR FLAMING" banner at the top.

 

[FrankRizzo]

No quarrel here Kraut. Glad to meet ya!

:lmao @ Frorider

Sorry bout that bud, I was enlisted and basically can provide you with zero insight on an officers career.