Anyone want to give Input on cyc plan please (s-4 is included).

[Drewb]

History:

I'm 6'2"

At the start of the year I was 245-250lb and 25+% bf and had a 42-43" pants size waist.

9 months later and I am 216lb, 13% bf (4 pinch check) and a size 34 pants!

I'm 28 and have been lifting since I was 18 and at one point was about 250lb at 12% or less bf but I got married, got older and got fat/flabby).

Goal is to be 10% bf (or less) in three months and to pack on as much real lean mass/maintain what I have as I can at the the same time.

Cycle input

Wk1-4 50mg a day of S-4 AM/PM (I will stop it early if my night vision starts to go for a few days until better).

Wk 1-2 Durma 4 pumps a day (just because I have some left over).

Wk 1-4 forged burner 1-2 caps a day cycle 5 days on then 2off

wk4 free levels of test lab (saliva test) or test blood test at dr office / lab.

Wk 5-7 20mg a day of beast AM/PM

Wk 5-8 three (3) caps a day AM/MID/PM of) katanadrol

Wks 5-8 sustain alpha 3on/2off

Wks 5-8 vitex and p-5-p to fight prolactin buildup

Wk 9-1150mg a day of S-4 AM/PM (only going to take this if my test levels were not suppressed after the first 4 weeks of it, but from what I've read it does not suppress at 50mg (only at 100mg+).

Wk 9-12 forged pct

Wk 9 -12 nolva (wk9-40mg, wk10-30mg, wk11-20mg, wk12-10mg).

wk 9-10 sustain alpha 5on/2off (left overs).

Diet: Omegas phase one "blue coller diet"

W/O: Omegas phase one program (higher and good form reps). You hit every muscle twice a week and take 2 days on the weekend off (I'm gonna do cardio on Sat/Sun).

Other supporting sups I'll be taking/have for the whole thing:

Need2 gear: I take 4-5 Pre/post work out, 4-5 before bed and 2-3 between meals all day (every other hr).

Need2 Skeletal balm - apply twice a day to "problem spots".

Fenugreek seed: I take this twice a day total of 1,220mg

Forged liver support: 2 caps a day

Multi Vitamin

Wks 5-8 Red yeast rice & CoQ10

Calcium support (I don't drink milk/eat cheese)

Fish oil - 2000 - 3000 mg a day

Saw Complex - x 2 a day (includes 320mg saw, 480mg pumkin seed and a few other things a serv).

Cranberry extract - 1-2 300mg pill right before bed

Glucosamine & chondroitin - take 2 caps a day of this complex

Wks 1-4 Creatine (2250mg Pre and post w/o)
Wks 9-12 Creatine (2250mg Pre and post w/o)

Wks 1-4 (or when it runs out) Glycobol - na-r-ala - I take 2 caps 1/2 hr before my two biggest carb meals of the day (250mg of the na-r-ala in each cap). - got great body recomp results from my last bottle.

 

[sweed]

Hey this looks familiar! Lol
Good Luck bro!

 

[dabuffguy]

Looks like you have a plan bro. Good job. I didn't look through everything, but it looks like you got it down pretty good.

 

[Drewb]

Few small changes based on input from Russan, Andrew and others: adding HCgenerate durning the last week of the beast and though the pct. I'll order it sometime in the first 4 wks and figure out dosing then. Might up my carb intake for the S4. Might up the S4 to 75mg a day for wks 1-4 depending on sides/results the first wk or so...

Cycle input

Wk1-4 50mg a day of S-4 AM/PM (I will stop it early if my night vision starts to go for a few days until better). Edit: depending on results might up to 75mg a day.

Wk 1-2 Durma 4 pumps a day (just because I have some left over).

Wk 1-4 forged burner 1-2 caps a day cycle 5 days on then 2off

wk4 free levels of test lab (saliva test) or test blood test at dr office / lab.

Wk 5-7 20mg a day of beast AM/PM

Wk 5-8 three (3) caps a day AM/MID/PM of) katanadrol

Wks 5-8 sustain alpha 3on/2off

Wks 5-8 vitex and p-5-p to fight prolactin buildup

Wks 7-8 Hcgenerate

Wk 9-1150mg a day of S-4 AM/PM (only going to take this if my test levels were not suppressed after the first 4 weeks of it, but from what I've read it does not suppress at 50mg (only at 100mg+).

Wk 9-12 forged pct

Wks 9-12 HCgenerate

Wk 9 -12 nolva (wk9-40mg, wk10-30mg, wk11-20mg, wk12-10mg).

wk 9-10 sustain alpha 5on/2off (left overs).

Diet: Omegas phase one "blue coller diet"

W/O: Omegas phase one program (higher and good form reps). You hit every muscle twice a week and take 2 days on the weekend off (I'm gonna do cardio on Sat/Sun).

Other supporting sups I'll be taking/have for the whole thing:

Need2 gear: I take 4-5 Pre/post work out, 4-5 before bed and 2-3 between meals all day (every other hr).

Need2 Skeletal balm - apply twice a day to "problem spots".

Fenugreek seed: I take this twice a day total of 1,220mg

Forged liver support: 2 caps a day

Multi Vitamin

Wks 5-8 Red yeast rice & CoQ10

Calcium support (I don't drink milk/eat cheese).

Fish oil - 2000 - 3000 mg a day

Saw Complex - x 2 a day (includes 320mg saw, 480mg pumkin seed and a few other things a serv).

Cranberry extract - 1-2 300mg pill right before bed

Glucosamine & chondroitin - take 2 caps a day of this complex

Wks 1-4 Creatine (2250mg Pre and post w/o)

Wks 9-12 Creatine (2250mg Pre and post w/o)

Wks 1-4 (or when it runs out) Glycobol - na-r-ala - I take 2 caps 1/2 hr before my two biggest carb meals of the day (250mg of the na-r-ala in each cap). - got great body recomp results from my last bottle.

 

[Carlito B]

I suggest adding 300mg to 500g of Bilberry ED and other eye support supplements if possible but Bilberry itself is very good and will help counteract the vision side effects from S4 that if at 50mg ED you get any.

Also, in case I missed it and did not see it on the list of supps you will be using...antioxidants are always a MUST.

C

 

[needtogetaas]

I suggest adding 300mg to 500g of Bilberry ED and other eye support supplements if possible but Bilberry itself is very good and will help counteract the vision side effects from S4 that if at 50mg ED you get any.

Also, in case I missed it and did not see it on the list of supps you will be using...antioxidants are always a MUST.

C

Hey man fucking great add bro. Had not even been thinking about the eye support for sarms till you said it just now. Great add man for real.

 

[Drewb]

X2 good info.


I've not bought any eye supps but 12 days in at 60mg once a day Pre w/o with no real vision sides yet (i might have lost a little side night vison but it's not enough for me to be sure yet).