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anyone wanna see a chick get stoned to death..

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Powerbuilder333 said:
WTF? You're arguing against a implication I never made! I've never said you can't get away with murder in America. From 1985 to 2005 there are 8,894 unsolved murders in New York City. Imagine how many more in the whole country. I imagine every country has homicides go unsolved.
http://www.echonyc.com/~horn/restless/000177.html
In America we're still arresting and prosecuting lynch mob members from the 60's.
My point is: We have no shortage of criminals, but our society never stops trying to bring them to justice, according to the rule of law.

I'm impressed that Iran "officially" placed a moratorium on stoning, as mentioned in the links I provided. To bad the central government has little intrest in enforcing it. That's their problem though.
My problem is when they want to export this mind set to the rest of the world.
I'm out.

"Originally Posted by Powerbuilder333
That's the HUGE difference: They can't get away with it in our society. The 4 crackers you mentioned where caught, convicted and sentenced to death. Christianity had nothing to do with the crime."

No government is "perfect"... if you're going to blame the Iranian government for not enforcing the abolishment of stoning more strictly maybe you should blame our government for some of the death's it should be held accountable for... which I'm sure dwarf in comparison.
 
CrazyRussian said:
Ah yes, the religion of peace.

BTW let this be a reminder that all cultures are equally beautiful and that we can't judge.

Apparently you didn't bother to read the thread. It's already been established that this has nothing to do with Islam.
 
redsamurai said:
I think I understand pb's point here........he's not saying that there aren't bad people here, for sure there are........but they are considered criminals and sought after to put in jail. Now, in all fairness.......it wasn't that long ago that we were stringing people up in trees for the crime of being colored and drinking from the wrong fountain........so we certainly have our past to be ashamed about. But what I think he's getting at, and I somewhat agree with him........is that in the middle east there seems to be a certain compliance with what we saw in that video. And I don't think it's just these "yazidi" kurds.......I've heard stories of muslims girls being beaten and raped for falling in love with a christian boy........yet when a christian girl fell in love with a muslim boy from a neighboring village......the muslims basically told the christians to get lost when they came for the girl, who was like 14 or 15. Muslims have an incredible double standard.........but religion will do that to you........no religion is recused from that. It's just that at the present time..........the middle east is a boiling pot, so it makes everything look worse. Frankly, all religion should be outlawed IMO.........or at the very least kept on such a tight leash that it never pervades governance. Once religion get's it's filthy little paws into governing bodies.......it's all over. Ration and reason get supplanted by secular doctrine..........and it's happening in the U.S as we speak.

Man you couldn't be more far from the truth. That's like me saying some small cities in southern Alabama that give a hard time to foreigners and people of other ethnicity is a uniform habit throughout the country... no sir.

Want an interesting fact? Iranian-Jews living within Iran enjoy complete peace and protection without any fear of hatred and even stereotyping. Its a tradition that's diffused from the Persian Empire with Cyrus... all religions and people's can practice and be free in Iran, but you must respect the principles of Islam.
 
There is a German language article about the stoning of this girl here:

http://www.stern.de/politik/ausland/:Irak-M%E4dchen-Liebe-Tode/589230.html

It says that this girl was turned over to the mob that stoned/beat/trampled her to death by her own uncle and that her own family participated as police were watching.

2 men have since been arrested but have been released.

23 people were killed in a supposed revenge attack by Sunnis.

The girl was buried in an unmarked grave, her body exhumed and forensicly tested for her virginity. According to reports her hymen was still intact, she was still a virgin at the time of her death.

Under Iraqi law the maximum penalty for an 'honour' killing is six months jail.




b0und (what is honourable about killing a young girl?)
 
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