anyone try HMG?

[Primordial Performance]

HMG would be an effective PCT, or on cycle drug.

The FSH (HMG) will help sensitize the testis to the effects of LH. The combo of HCG and HMG would be killer for restoring testicular function. Of course, on cycle protocol is ALWAYS better. You can get away with using 125iu of HCG during cycle to preserve testicular function and IT levels. 1000iu+ doses of HCG is only for hypogonadotropism, or hypopituitarism men whom havnt seen an LH signal in months, or ever.

The reduced libido form HMG could possibly be the excessive inhibin secretion by the testis from over stimulation of FSH…

-Pp

15. Successful treatment of anabolic steroid–induced azoospermia with human
chorionic gonadotropin and human menopausal gonadotropin
Dev Kumar Menon, M.D.
FERTILITY AND STERILITY VOL. 79, SUPPL. 3, JUNE 2003

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, you mention that depending on the dosages of aromatising compounds in a cycle, you may not need an anti-estrogen. Up to what dosage of tesosoterone would you expect no anti-e to be required?

I have tried anti-e's in many different types and at many different dosages in the hope it will prevent water retention for me whilst using aromatising steroids, however, no combination seems to do so. Would this suggest my susceptibility to water retention is more down to diet (sodium intake?)

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

I'm not an advocate of using an anti-e to combat water retention. The water will go away. You can sweat it out, use herbal diuretics (Protein Factory will be releasing a good one soon) or just let it subside. Water retention increases strength and brings nutrients to the muscles, yet everybody wants to get rid of it because they don't like looking puffy for a couple of weeks.

As for prolactin, SAM-e, mucana puriens and Ginsing extract will lower prolactin. Do NOT use Vitex.

 

[DMI]

I'm not an advocate of using an anti-e to combat water retention. The water will go away. You can sweat it out, use herbal diuretics (Protein Factory will be releasing a good one soon) or just let it subside. Water retention increases strength and brings nutrients to the muscles, yet everybody wants to get rid of it because they don't like looking puffy for a couple of weeks.

As for prolactin, SAM-e, mucana puriens and Ginsing extract will lower prolactin. Do NOT use Vitex.

Yes, there are benefits to the water retention, but it also greatly increases my blood pressure. Dandelion root is the only herb that helps me shed water, but that is by taking 12 herbal tablets per day!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yes, there are benefits to the water retention, but it also greatly increases my blood pressure. Dandelion root is the only herb that helps me shed water, but that is by taking 12 herbal tablets per day!

If you have high blood pressure then take the simple solution -- lower the dosage. Or, substitute some of it with Primo.

Yeah, it takes a high dosage of dandelion. Lots of water too. Potassium helps but taking too much can be dangerous if sodium levels get too low.

Uva ursi, buchu, boswellin, horse chestnut, B6 and aloe vera will also help. Those are the ingredients in the Protein Factory diuretic. It should be out by May. It's called "DEFINITION."

 

[DMI]

If you have high blood pressure then take the simple solution -- lower the dosage. Or, substitute some of it with Primo.

Yeah, it takes a high dosage of dandelion. Lots of water too. Potassium helps but taking too much can be dangerous if sodium levels get too low.

Uva ursi, buchu, boswellin, horse chestnut, B6 and aloe vera will also help. Those are the ingredients in the Protein Factory diuretic. It should be out by May. It's called "DEFINITION."

I will give the Definition a try. Lowering the dosage does not help. I actually bloat on just 125mg testosterone!

 

[Nelson Montana]

I will give the Definition a try. Lowering the dosage does not help. I actually bloat on just 125mg testosterone!

What's your current cycle?

 

[DJ_UFO]

HMG lowers cholesterol??

 

[DMI]

500mg test enanthate
400mg EQ
25mg winstrol (ed, oral)
20mg Aromasin ed

Thanks for the help.

What's your current cycle?

 

[digimon7068]

First off, by increasing LH, you need an anti e (which can hinder gains).

since you mentioned this, what are your feelings on using anti-e during a cycle??

 

[Nelson Montana]

since you mentioned this, what are your feelings on using anti-e during a cycle??

Again, it depends on what you're using and how suseptable you are to gyno, or high blood pressure.

DMI; Yeah, that shouldn't cause a whole lot of bloat. Then again, it could be the EQ that's raising your BP.