Anyone here have an MBA?

[calveless wonder]

sup my peoples

just curious....since i'm back on my school hustle.

I'm back in school and trying to get my bachelor's wrapped up. prolly gonna take me a year and a half to get it finished, but it's really not going to do anything for me financially that i couldn't achieve now.

my ultimate aim at going back to school was to get an MBA or possibly go to law school.

but my question is this, if one goes directly from their bachelors to their MBA is it looked down upon and difficult to get a job? As far as experience goes? I"m working really hard, and trying to transfer to U of florida (Top 50 school) and knowing my test taking abilities i should do well on the GMAT and be able to go to a pretty decent grad school

I have lots of work experience and held high positions including management but all in the mortgage business and in sales...some marketing.I'm so burnt out on sales itself, so the marketing aspect appeals to me alot more.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

sup my peoples

just curious....since i'm back on my school hustle.

I'm back in school and trying to get my bachelor's wrapped up. prolly gonna take me a year and a half to get it finished, but it's really not going to do anything for me financially that i couldn't achieve now.

my ultimate aim at going back to school was to get an MBA or possibly go to law school.

but my question is this, if one goes directly from their bachelors to their MBA is it looked down upon and difficult to get a job? As far as experience goes? I"m working really hard, and trying to transfer to U of florida (Top 50 school) and knowing my test taking abilities i should do well on the GMAT and be able to go to a pretty decent grad school

I have lots of work experience and held high positions including management but all in the mortgage business and in sales...some marketing.I'm so burnt out on sales itself, so the marketing aspect appeals to me alot more.

Yeah and if you want to buy my diploma it is really pretty and big with nice writing on it, white out my name and put yours there

 

[goin on 4T]

Having an MBA is only a good thing. Yes they tell you to get experience in between, but most don't ever get the chance to go back to school or atleast loose the opportunity to go to a great MBA program as they end up with a family. I would get your MBA from the best school posible. Plus the economy should be back on track by the time you are done!!!
And no I don't have an MBA.

 

[Smurfy]

CW it seems you already have the work experience unlike most peeps who go from HS to undergrad to grad without much if any work experience at all. So i wouldnt worry about that. And I believe its true. If you stop going to school after undergrad for any amount of time, then it will be harder to get yourself back into thne school mode for grad school. just go straight through. good luck.

 

[cindylou]

hey CW long time no see

 

[mrplunkey]

sup my peoples

just curious....since i'm back on my school hustle.

I'm back in school and trying to get my bachelor's wrapped up. prolly gonna take me a year and a half to get it finished, but it's really not going to do anything for me financially that i couldn't achieve now.

my ultimate aim at going back to school was to get an MBA or possibly go to law school.

but my question is this, if one goes directly from their bachelors to their MBA is it looked down upon and difficult to get a job? As far as experience goes? I"m working really hard, and trying to transfer to U of florida (Top 50 school) and knowing my test taking abilities i should do well on the GMAT and be able to go to a pretty decent grad school

I have lots of work experience and held high positions including management but all in the mortgage business and in sales...some marketing.I'm so burnt out on sales itself, so the marketing aspect appeals to me alot more.

I received my MBA from Emory in 1996. I started in 1994 -- two years after I began working full-time. For someone who is fresh out of undergrad, I'd definitely recommend working for a couple of years first. It's much easier to relate to the material with work experience. You'd also be perceived as more valuable if you have a combination of work experience and an MBA as compared to someone who has an MBA alone.

But it sounds like you've been working for some time already. There should be no experience issues with going straight from undergrad to graduate school. A lot of businesses really like people who work their way through school (undergrad or graduate school), so you have that going for you as well. The only thing I would consider is waiting to see if your employer will send you to get your MBA. You'll probably have to sign an agreement to work at that employer (or pay for part of your education) for a few years, but it looks really good when an employer decides to spend their own money furthering your education.

 

[Stefka]

sup my peoples

just curious....since i'm back on my school hustle.

I'm back in school and trying to get my bachelor's wrapped up. prolly gonna take me a year and a half to get it finished, but it's really not going to do anything for me financially that i couldn't achieve now.

my ultimate aim at going back to school was to get an MBA or possibly go to law school.

but my question is this, if one goes directly from their bachelors to their MBA is it looked down upon and difficult to get a job? As far as experience goes? I"m working really hard, and trying to transfer to U of florida (Top 50 school) and knowing my test taking abilities i should do well on the GMAT and be able to go to a pretty decent grad school

I have lots of work experience and held high positions including management but all in the mortgage business and in sales...some marketing.I'm so burnt out on sales itself, so the marketing aspect appeals to me alot more.

It wont be looked down upon if you go straight through - especially because you already have so much experience.

 

[goin on 4T]

The only thing I would consider is waiting to see if your employer will send you to get your MBA. You'll probably have to sign an agreement to work at that employer (or pay for part of your education) for a few years, but it looks really good when an employer decides to spend their own money furthering your education.

Dammit that is some good advice!!!

 

[Razorguns]

If you wanna be a super office warrior - yeah get an mba. Btw: lots of unemployed depressed mba's out there, hoping for any spreadsheet monkey job. It means little when the economy is slow or your mba is not ivy league.

And when companies do cuts - those big office mba middle-manager mba's are the first to go.

r

 

[calveless wonder]

If you wanna be a super office warrior - yeah get an mba. Btw: lots of unemployed depressed mba's out there, hoping for any spreadsheet monkey job. It means little when the economy is slow or your mba is not ivy league.

And when companies do cuts - those big office mba middle-manager mba's are the first to go.

r

ahhh. you couldn't have scripted this post any better.

i almost forgot how predictable RG was

 

[Razorguns]

ahhh. you couldn't have scripted this post any better.

i almost forgot how predictable RG was

My former co-worker got one of those after-work course mba thingys. I guess he wanted more money (bad motivation btw).

He now works at a car dealership selling cars.

Reality folks. Look into it sometimes.

r

 

[Dial_tone]

ahhh. you couldn't have scripted this post any better.

i almost forgot how predictable RG was

The only thing he skipped was how MBA resumes made great airplanes and a silly Americans comment.

 

[curvymommy]

My favorite Starbucks barista is freshly Master's degreed.

I'm sure whatever you decide to do you'll kick butt though! Just goes to show you that it's the individual with the degree! Not just the degree. You alreay know this though since you're smart,

 

[mrplunkey]

My former co-worker got one of those after-work course mba thingys. I guess he wanted more money (bad motivation btw).

He now works at a car dealership selling cars.

Reality folks. Look into it sometimes.

r

Now see? If you'd go get your ass an MBA you'd understand how worthless an empirical observation is when the sample size is one.

Look at you helping prove a point -- thanks!

 

[Bikini Mod]

Now see? If you'd go get your ass an MBA you'd understand how worthless an empirical observation is when the sample size is one.

Look at you helping prove a point -- thanks!

Dude, who the heck you think you are talking to? This guy is WEALTHY because he doesn't "have to" get out of bed on Mondays until 12 and can "do what he wants when he wants, etc."

I've been able to do the same myself for quite a bit and I am nowhere NEAR wealthy.

I guess that some of us just put the bar *a little* higher.

 

[mrplunkey]

Dude, who the heck you think you are talking to? This guy is WEALTHY because he doesn't "have to" get out of bed on Mondays until 12 and can "do what he wants when he wants, etc."

I've been able to do the same myself for quite a bit and I am nowhere NEAR wealthy.

I guess that some of us just put the bar *a little* higher.

Good point!

Do business schools take tuition in guitars anyway?

 

[Razorguns]

Now see? If you'd go get your ass an MBA you'd understand how worthless an empirical observation is when the sample size is one.

Look at you helping prove a point -- thanks!

I made $500 today by one hour of programming expressions to do footprints in a dynamic particle system for a rigged animatic robot in a snowy field for a client.

Now i'm going to the mall while Bikinimom posts on EF all day.

Skills > MBA.

Beat that bitch.

r

 

[Dial_tone]

I made $500 today by one hour of programming expressions to do footprints in a dynamic particle system for a rigged animatic robot in a snowy field for a client.

Now i'm going to the mall while Bikinimom posts on EF all day.

Skills > MBA.

Beat that bitch.

r

I made $2,300 after checking out CrazyFox - As Seen On TV.

 

[calveless wonder]

i get 65 cents everytime i scratch my nuts

 

[bigmann245]

this is EF we all have an MBA and most of us have a doctorates and we all make no less than 1.5 million a month so whats your next question??? penis size???

 

[nimbus]

lol this is shaping up to be one of my favorite threads of all time

 

[jnevin]

I made $2,300 after checking out CrazyFox - As Seen On TV.

I spent last night at a Holiday Inn Express. That's got to carry some weight.

 

[nimbus]

I spent last night at a Holiday Inn Express. That's got to carry some weight.

*fat joke*

 

[calveless wonder]

all my favorite nigs have joined the party

 

[mrplunkey]

I made $500 today by one hour of programming expressions to do footprints in a dynamic particle system for a rigged animatic robot in a snowy field for a client.

Translation: I adjusted the gamma setting on my Xbox so I can frag people on Halo2 better. My m4d skilz 0wnz u!!!

Now i'm going to the mall while Bikinimom posts on EF all day.

Translation: Yes, I'm one of those kids who wears black clothes, a wallet chain and ear gauges who hangs-out at the food court. Sure I'm a little too old to be there, but I'm way cooler than the rest of these middle school kids anyway.

Skills > MBA.

Yes, but Skills + MBA = I'm the guy giving you your programming assignment for the day.

Beat that bitch.

r

Done!

 

[Smurfy]

Translation: I adjusted the gamma setting on my Xbox so I can frag people on Halo2 better. My m4d skilz 0wnz u!!!




Translation: Yes, I'm one of those kids who wears black and hangs-out at the food court. Sure I'm a little too old to be there, but I'm way cooler than the rest of these middle school kids anyway.



Yes, but Skills + MBA = I'm the guy giving you your programming assignment for the day.



Done!

lol I love Plunkey's ownage

 

[JR76]

Since you already have work experience, you're not really going to be lumped in with others who are going "directly" from undergrad to grad school. I think that the decision should be driven in part by how much you like quantitative vs. qualitative analysis. If you're into quant stuff (e.g. markets, finance, operations research) go for the MBA. If you're more of a qualitative guy into the socratic method, law school is the place for you. That's not to say that there aren't places where they intersect. For example, securitization and M&A law would have both a qualitative and a quantitative component. Of course, if you're really indecisive, you could enroll in one of the many joint MBA/JD degree programs that are out there at large research universities. I have an MBA. It's ok. My friends with JD's don't appear to be having any more fun than I am. And while I've never met an unemployed lawyer, I've never met an attorney who enjoyed being one.

 

[mrplunkey]

Since you already have work experience, you're not really going to be lumped in with others who are going "directly" from undergrad to grad school. I think that the decision should be driven in part by how much you like quantitative vs. qualitative analysis. If you're into quant stuff (e.g. markets, finance, operations research) go for the MBA. If you're more of a qualitative guy into the socratic method, law school is the place for you. That's not to say that there aren't places where they intersect. For example, securitization and M&A law would have both a qualitative and a quantitative component. Of course, if you're really indecisive, you could enroll in one of the many joint MBA/JD degree programs that are out there at large research universities. I have an MBA. It's ok. My friends with JD's don't appear to be having any more fun than I am. And while I've never met an unemployed lawyer, I've never met an attorney who enjoyed being one.

Damn that was well said. I really struggled with the MBA vs. Law School decision myself and your last sentence is what sealed the deal for me. My sister is a lawyer.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I made $500 today by one hour of programming expressions to do footprints in a dynamic particle system for a rigged animatic robot in a snowy field for a client.

Now i'm going to the mall while Bikinimom posts on EF all day.

Skills > MBA.

Beat that bitch.

r

You made a WHOPPING $500.00 today? Was that net or gross?! Either way, I am impressed.

Shit, I really needa stay on EF 'cause *bank* like that wouldn't even get my car parked at the mall. That's more like a casual every day weeknight for us: dinner and a trip to the cigar bar.

Good thing they pay my old FART well at the drive-up window. I mean, how else could we afford to keep all those lawyers in their mercedes?

 

[Mr. dB]

Where's Bran987?

 

[Smurfy]

Where's Bran987?

I miss him

 

[Bikini Mod]

Translation: I adjusted the gamma setting on my Xbox so I can frag people on Halo2 better. My m4d skilz 0wnz u!!!




Translation: Yes, I'm one of those kids who wears black clothes, a wallet chain and ear gauges who hangs-out at the food court. Sure I'm a little too old to be there, but I'm way cooler than the rest of these middle school kids anyway.



Yes, but Skills + MBA = I'm the guy giving you your programming assignment for the day.



Done!

That was scathing...

I wonder if mister big bucks ever bought that sporty or that gnarly harley jacket on e-bay.

I am thinkin he most likely blew his wad on pokemon cards, timbs, and those redikyulous jeans that hang down to the backs of his knees.

nomarriage.com - the answer to all of society's woes.

 

[jnevin]

*fat joke*

 

[Bikini Mod]

CW - what I know about these things can fit into a thimble but from what I have gleaned in the past coupla few years you should do what you are passionate about. If you are intelligent and driven and don't take no for an answer, learn how to stay with what will work and also when to jump ship and move onto another endeavor you will do fine regardless of the path you choose, or rather which path will choose you.

I don't even have an undergraduate degree (regretable decision to marry my ex and be a stay-at-home mom instead of finishing college) but more money goes through my bank account in a month than the average American makes in a year... and I STILL don't have enough. True, my husband taught me nearly everything I know about business but in the end, I was the quick study and took the bull by the horns and made it happen for me. I don't know a wholelotta people who could have pulled off what I did, but in the end... if I did it, then why can't anyone?

You seem like a sharp guy. You'll be fine.

 

[chewyxrage]

Bran said his salary doubled upon completion of his MBA. I'm sure he went to a great school though and had a 4.0.

Plus, it's Bran. Dude is worth 6 figures any day of the week.

I plan on getting mine in a couple years. Already have by B.S. I'm building my experience base now as I've heard from a million people (like above) that going back w/ experience helps you understand and apply the concepts better.

 

[samoth]

I've heard from a million people (like above) that going back w/ experience helps you understand and apply the concepts better.

And get into a better ranked program, too.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Now see? If you'd go get your ass an MBA you'd understand how worthless an empirical observation is when the sample size is one.

Look at you helping prove a point -- thanks!

lol...Ownd!

 

[the_alcatraz]

Bran said his salary doubled upon completion of his MBA. I'm sure he went to a great school though and had a 4.0.

Plus, it's Bran. Dude is worth 6 figures any day of the week.

I plan on getting mine in a couple years. Already have by B.S. I'm building my experience base now as I've heard from a million people (like above) that going back w/ experience helps you understand and apply the concepts better.

yes...I've heard this too...

I'm working my ass off and getting "experienced" before getting an MBA

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

Translation: I adjusted the gamma setting on my Xbox so I can frag people on Halo2 better. My m4d skilz 0wnz u!!!




Translation: Yes, I'm one of those kids who wears black clothes, a wallet chain and ear gauges who hangs-out at the food court. Sure I'm a little too old to be there, but I'm way cooler than the rest of these middle school kids anyway.



Yes, but Skills + MBA = I'm the guy giving you your programming assignment for the day.



Done!

Usually I read your poosts and say, "Well that's plunky" then move on.

I have to say your translation is pretty dead on.

I received my MBA from Pepperdine in 1976 then an MBA was uncommon. I was Regional VP for a little Company in Pittsburg called Westinghouse. So I have seen Corporate America when we were only allowed 3 color suits Black, Navy & Charcoal. The shirt color was crisp starched long sleeve white.

Back to my fist comment.

I am going to hypothesize:

Razorguns made a comment he made $500 today. I assume since he was very proud of that he does not make $500 everyday.

Razorguns says he is rich, yet $500 in a day even if is was 7 days a week will leave me with 3 vehicles repossed and no lights, cable, water or gas. The debt service is a non issue at this point because I will be drinking from my pool and bathing there as well.

I haev read that he has numerous businesses, yet he is
1)not marrried
2)never gets ass
3) tends to over-reach his status
4)posts every negative comment when there is no need always to enhance his own self image not realizing anyone that can read thinks he is a baffoon.

So If I am correct in the previous assumptions the result is.

He works as a part time security guard in a lumberyard at night. He can almost pay the rent in his one bedroom apartment, hates everyone that is successful because they owe him and probably weighs about 425.

I wonder how close I am.

 

[the_clockwork]

MBA's are a dime a dozen, going in votech school

 

[chewyxrage]

Usually I read your poosts and say, "Well that's plunky" then move on.

I have to say your translation is pretty dead on.

I received my MBA from Pepperdine in 1976 then an MBA was uncommon. I was Regional VP for a little Company in Pittsburg called Westinghouse. So I have seen Corporate America when we were only allowed 3 color suits Black, Navy & Charcoal. The shirt color was crisp starched long sleeve white.

Back to my fist comment.

I am going to hypothesize:

Razorguns made a comment he made $500 today. I assume since he was very proud of that he does not make $500 everyday.

Razorguns says he is rich, yet $500 in a day even if is was 7 days a week will leave me with 3 vehicles repossed and no lights, cable, water or gas. The debt service is a non issue at this point because I will be drinking from my pool and bathing there as well.

I haev read that he has numerous businesses, yet he is
1)not marrried
2)never gets ass
3) tends to over-reach his status
4)posts every negative comment when there is no need always to enhance his own self image not realizing anyone that can read thinks he is a baffoon.

So If I am correct in the previous assumptions the result is.

He works as a part time security guard in a lumberyard at night. He can almost pay the rent in his one bedroom apartment, hates everyone that is successful because they owe him and probably weighs about 425.

I wonder how close I am.

I think he was emphasizing the "per hour" comment there. So based on that your post is off, but I see what your point was based on that.

Razor, if you make $500/hour, how often do you actually get paid that much? Constant? Hard to believe....

 

[mrplunkey]

I think he was emphasizing the "per hour" comment there. So based on that your post is off, but I see what your point was based on that.

Razor, if you make $500/hour, how often do you actually get paid that much? Constant? Hard to believe....

I believe he's cited $500/day contract work more than once. It's not a per-hour figure -- I believe he was trying to impress us by saying he got it all done in one hour.

 

[Bikini Mod]

All I gotta say is that it is wonderful that he got paid $500.00 for a contract and that he was able to get that contract work done in one hour. Great!

How many clients/contracts he got like that per week? And how long has he had "X" number on a regular basis?

I don't understand why he would stop after working one hour and "brag" about going to the mall? Why didn't he work say another 4 hours and make another 2K? Which leads to the next question: With earning potential like that why is he sleeping till noon, then only working one hour, then knocking off to go skateboarding (or whatever it is that kids do these days at the mall)?

.... but he is "wealthy"?

As I stated before, I suppose some of us set the bar just *that much* higher than others.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

I believe he's cited $500/day contract work more than once. It's not a per-hour figure -- I believe he was trying to impress us by saying he got it all done in one hour.

I seldom get anything of importance completed in an hour, even a mani-pedi takes that long. And I have one on my fingers and one on my toes.

I think he was just saying that $500 was a lot of money.

I think he was emphasizing the "per hour" comment there. So based on that your post is off, but I see what your point was based on that.

Razor, if you make $500/hour, how often do you actually get paid that much? Constant? Hard to believe....

Everything he says is hard to believe. The largest consulting firm in the world charges $450 a billable hour for their people. That is for a multi-billion Corporation, then they have an entire team that works on a project. So After reading his posts for 2 years I stand by my post, nonetheless it is beyond belief anyway.

 

[Bikini Mod]

The only way you can get a mani/pedi in one hour is if you have two people working on you at once and then it's more expensive which is not in alignment with Razorguns' "keep down your debt" platform.

 

[-SD-]

We need MattSkywalker to post up some W-2's up in this bitch.

 

[Razorguns]

I seldom get anything of importance completed in an hour, even a mani-pedi takes that long. And I have one on my fingers and one on my toes.

I think he was just saying that $500 was a lot of money.

I think he was emphasizing the "per hour" comment there. So based on that your post is off, but I see what your point was based on that.

Razor, if you make $500/hour, how often do you actually get paid that much? Constant? Hard to believe....

Everything he says is hard to believe. The largest consulting firm in the world charges $450 a billable hour for their people. That is for a multi-billion Corporation, then they have an entire team that works on a project. So After reading his posts for 2 years I stand by my post, nonetheless it is beyond belief anyway.

LOL you geezer - you'd think you'd know what consulting rates are like by now. How old are you again?

Even in IT visual c++ device driver crap back in the day, i'd charge $60/hr. Do the math.

I can make even more than $500/day if i wanted. $500/8 = $60/hr so it's about industry average.

$60/hr for all the complex 3d animation modeling dynamics rendering particles shit I do that none of you 'educashun is dumb!' morons can't do, is cheap as fuck.

Think that's expensive? Go call Microsoft Consulting and ask what their rate is to go do some .NET web develpoment for you. While your'e at it, go call Sony Consulting too.

Go back to your internet postings all day you kick ass employees you! Oh look! Another economic fad, throw you money at it!! Hey BM a lawyer! Go throw money at him!

r

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

LOL you geezer - you'd think you'd know what consulting rates are like by now. How old are you again?

Even in IT visual c++ device driver crap back in the day, i'd charge $60/hr. Do the math.

I can make even more than $500/day if i wanted. $500/8 = $60/hr so it's about industry average.

$60/hr for all the complex 3d animation modeling dynamics rendering particles shit I do that none of you 'educashun is dumb!' morons can't do, is cheap as fuck.

Think that's expensive? Go call Microsoft Consulting and ask what their rate is to go do some .NET web develpoment for you. While your'e at it, go call Sony Consulting too.

Go back to your internet postings all day you kick ass employees you! Oh look! Another economic fad, throw you money at it!! Hey BM a lawyer! Go throw money at him!

r

wow. Another great post.

Her attorney is a woman, she gets $350 an hour, 15k retainer. I wrote her a check today.

I can post when I have time, something about having a computer at my desk with the three screens. I am so amused by you it reminds me of when I was 21 and told my wife's uncle that I was making so much money I could live forever. He was an American Airlines pilot, he made more in a day than I did in a month. I was so ashamed when I grew up I still talk about that conversation.

I am an old geezer, if that is your best shot good for you. Your ablilties have not changed, nor have they increased.

The guy that worls on my bike makes $78 bucks an hour, he works on mine and others for 8 hrs a day. Perhaps you can go to motorcycle mechanic school and learn a trade where you can make some money instead of pretending. Then you can actually get a Harley. Oh, remember I pay the money to have it worked on plus I own the bike so he is labor. It's worth it for me cause I don't do anything but ride.

Oh, BM didn't go to the mall today, she just hung around the house. But when she does she saves me at least $3,000.00 every time she shops.

 

[Bikini Mod]

wow. Another great post.

Her attorney is a woman, she gets $350 an hour, 15k retainer. I wrote her a check today.

I can post when I have time, something about having a computer at my desk with the three screens. I am so amused by you it reminds me of when I was 21 and told my wife's uncle that I was making so much money I could live forever. He was an American Airlines pilot, he made more in a day than I did in a month. I was so ashamed when I grew up I still talk about that conversation.

I am an old geezer, if that is your best shot good for you. Your ablilties have not changed, nor have they increased.

The guy that worls on my bike makes $78 bucks an hour, he works on mine and others for 8 hrs a day. Perhaps you can go to motorcycle mechanic school and learn a trade where you can make some money instead of pretending. Then you can actually get a Harley. Oh, remember I pay the money to have it worked on plus I own the bike so he is labor. It's worth it for me cause I don't do anything but ride.

Oh, BM didn't go to the mall today, she just hung around the house. But when she does she saves me at least $3,000.00 every time she shops.

You sayin that I spend a lot... or save a lot?

 

[digimon7068]

sup my peoples

just curious....since i'm back on my school hustle.

I'm back in school and trying to get my bachelor's wrapped up. prolly gonna take me a year and a half to get it finished, but it's really not going to do anything for me financially that i couldn't achieve now.

my ultimate aim at going back to school was to get an MBA or possibly go to law school.

but my question is this, if one goes directly from their bachelors to their MBA is it looked down upon and difficult to get a job? As far as experience goes? I"m working really hard, and trying to transfer to U of florida (Top 50 school) and knowing my test taking abilities i should do well on the GMAT and be able to go to a pretty decent grad school

I have lots of work experience and held high positions including management but all in the mortgage business and in sales...some marketing.I'm so burnt out on sales itself, so the marketing aspect appeals to me alot more.

a buddy of mine went from undergrad at IUP to Pitt's 11 month accelerated MBA and then directly to wall street. . .about 6 months in he got a seat on the gold exchange and then went up from there. . .10 years or so ago he started his own firm. . .now he makes a millon+ a year. . .so the answer to that question is NO. . .

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

a buddy of mine went from undergrad at IUP to Pitt's 11 month accelerated MBA and then directly to wall street. . .about 6 months in he got a seat on the gold exchange and then went up from there. . .10 years or so ago he started his own firm. . .now he makes a millon+ a year. . .so the answer to that question is NO. . .

When you have an MBA you have skill sets that are not available to the non MBA's My CFO has one from Wharton Business school, he is the bean counter, mine is from Pepperdine I am the problem solver. Now if you have ability you can do well but the sheep skin helps a lot.

If they are a dime a dozen then why don't they all have them? Well at 30k a year plus they are like an entry level bankers yearly salary.

I will be happy to tell anyone why this degree is important.

 

[digimon7068]

When you have an MBS you have skill sets that are not available to the non MBA's My CFO has one from Wharton Business school, he is the bean counter, mine is from Pepperdine I am the problem solver. Now if you have ability you can do well but the sheep skin helps a lot.

If they are a dime a dozen then why don't they all have them? Well at 30k a year plus they are like an entry level bankers yearly salary.

I will be happy to tell anyone why this degree is important.

all i'm saying is there's no general rule. . .obviously my buddy joe could walk-the-walk too. . .

 

[Bikini Mod]

all i'm saying is there's no general rule. . .obviously my buddy joe could walk-the-walk too. . .

I believe that is the general consensus of those that posted in the thread who have *a little* bit of experience.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

all i'm saying is there's no general rule. . .obviously my buddy joe could walk-the-walk too. . .

You are exactly correct! I have people that worked for me with MBA's they have the skills of a hamster, but they can really count.

 

[digimon7068]

You are exactly correct! I have people that worked for me with MBA's they have the skills of a hamster, but they can really count.

that's why the "git'er done!" guy makes more than both of us. . .and my buddy joe too. . .

 

[Varga]

I got 2 more classes to finish my MBA,and i def learned a lot of crap I did not know nor had much clue about. At least now even if I don't know how to go about doing something in business I know where and what to look at to get informed.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

that's why the "git'er done!" guy makes more than both of us. . .and my buddy joe too. . .

Well remember I have had a Pepperdine MBS since 1976. I almost make $1200 a month now, maybe when I get promoted I can get to the next level.

 

[-SD-]

Well remember I have had a Pepperdine MBS since 1976. I almost make $1200 a month now, maybe when I get promoted I can get to the next level.

McDonalds does have a manager trainee program bruh. But thats not bad for working the drive through.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

McDonalds does have a manager trainee program bruh. But thats not bad for working the drive through.

I supersize everyone!

6th grade was the hardest 4 years of my life, I had to take my drivers test and go to school. The good thing was that I was old enough to drink.

 

[mrplunkey]

I got 2 more classes to finish my MBA,and i def learned a lot of crap I did not know nor had much clue about. At least now even if I don't know how to go about doing something in business I know where and what to look at to get informed.

That brings-up another point I forgot to mention. What's funny about MBA programs is that the majority of students play into skills they already have. A lot of the work is group-based projects and sure enough, when there's an analytical task the finance guys and engineers jump all over it. When there's a soft skill set involved (i.e. Organizational Management or Marketing problem), the qualitative guys jump in. I'd recommend that anyone getting an MBA specifically work on things that are farthest from their current skills -- they'll get much more out of it.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

That brings-up another point I forgot to mention. What's funny about MBA programs is that the majority of students play into skills they already have. A lot of the work is group-based projects and sure enough, when there's an analytical task the finance guys and engineers jump all over it. When there's a soft skill set involved (i.e. Organizational Management or Marketing problem), the qualitative guys jump in. I'd recommend that anyone getting an MBA specifically work on things that are farthest from their current skills -- they'll get much more out of it.

You suprise me. You are pretty bright. Integrity is also important in the program. Once you get in a position ,integrity and the abilty to honestly interact is more important than a lot of learned/integrial skill set.

 

[mrplunkey]

You suprise me. You are pretty bright. Integrity is also important in the program. Once you get in a position ,integrity and the abilty to honestly interact is more important than a lot of learned/integrial skill set.

I totally agree. Business activities are too integrated now for a one-man show to move the needle as much as in the past. Science and engineering are in a similar position.

I think a lot of it is driven by how easy and quickly information can be exchanged now. It reduced the marginal value of an "A" versus an "A+" student. While that "A+" guy used to be the key to success, now three well-organized "B+" students can take him down unless he's got some serious trade secrets tucked-away in his head.

That phenomena shifts the skill set away from "what you know" to "what you can find out" -- which are two different skills. The value is provided by connectivity and this becomes more important than the specific function provided by any individual nodes. The computers we're all using right now are far less valuable than the fact they're connected to the Internet -- the same thing is happening for people.

damn, that sounded too much like a lecture...

The take-away is when you see a kid doing homework, watching TV, exchanging Myspace messages and texting all at the same time, they may be building a key set of skills that will help them as adults.

 

[Varga]

That brings-up another point I forgot to mention. What's funny about MBA programs is that the majority of students play into skills they already have. A lot of the work is group-based projects and sure enough, when there's an analytical task the finance guys and engineers jump all over it. When there's a soft skill set involved (i.e. Organizational Management or Marketing problem), the qualitative guys jump in. I'd recommend that anyone getting an MBA specifically work on things that are farthest from their current skills -- they'll get much more out of it.

That's true, and I liked that group study set up

 

[nimbus]

take a deep breath folks. why are you people arguing with eachother? lol

 

[Bikini Mod]

take a deep breath folks. why are you people arguing with eachother? lol

Didn't seem like an arguement to me. Just people sharing their viewpoints in an inteligent discourse.

I found the thread to be enjoyable... for more reasons than one.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

I totally agree. Business activities are too integrated now for a one-man show to move the needle as much as in the past. Science and engineering are in a similar position.

I think a lot of it is driven by how easy and quickly information can be exchanged now. It reduced the marginal value of an "A" versus an "A+" student. While that "A+" guy used to be the key to success, now three well-organized "B+" students can take him down unless he's got some serious trade secrets tucked-away in his head.

That phenomena shifts the skill set away from "what you know" to "what you can find out" -- which are two different skills. The value is provided by connectivity and this becomes more important than the specific function provided by any individual nodes. The computers we're all using right now are far less valuable than the fact they're connected to the Internet -- the same thing is happening for people.

damn, that sounded too much like a lecture...

The take-away is when you see a kid doing homework, watching TV, exchanging Myspace messages and texting all at the same time, they may be building a key set of skills that will help them as adults.

There are many qualified people that have similar skill set. The major difference in my particular business situation is the ablilty to identify a problem formulate a solution and excecute a solution with no supervision. On the other side of the office the skill set required is completely different. Both of these people have the same degree just different learned problem solving skills. Bean counting vs bean finding (to count)

 

[the_clockwork]

depending what market you are in MBA's can be worthless. I dated a girl that went through an MBA program without working and out of school no one wanted her.. no experience no money..

get experience before getting an MBA

 

[Bikini Mod]

depending what market you are in MBA's can be worthless. I dated a girl that went through an MBA program without working and out of school no one wanted her.. no experience no money..

get experience before getting an MBA

.. or maybe she was just a lousy lay?

(I am going straight to hell for that one.)

 

[mrplunkey]

.. or maybe she was just a lousy lay?

(I am going straight to hell for that one.)

I'm gonna guess small boobs. That will get them every time.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Nothing worse than when the bean counters wander over to the other side of the company.

Oi...

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

I'm gonna guess small boobs. That will get them every time.

Small boobs will get em every single time. Couple that with not having any talent or experience. I can't imagine anyone walking into a company and not having enough experience to be at an entry level job.

Now an MBA is almost the standard as was a BA back when I was riding my buggy to school.

 

[Varga]

Small boobs will get em every single time. Couple that with not having any talent or experience. I can't imagine anyone walking into a company and not having enough experience to be at an entry level job.

Now an MBA is almost the standard as was a BA back when I was riding my buggy to school.

That's true, and I also agree with the other poster that experience and MBA goes hand in hand and makes more sense. Knowledge can't hurt you I don't care what others say that MBA not being worth it and stuff....nonsense
I rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it...if you know what I mean!
Thanks for the K man!