Anybody push their O-lifts and deadlift simultaneously?

[BiggT]

I was just wondering if I could get some feedback from people regarding their thoughts on pushing deadlifts, cleans, and snatches all in the same training cycle?

I've never done this before.....when I wanted to work on my olympic lifts, I'd back off the deads and use them as well as SLDLs occasionally at the end of a workout just to maintain my heavy pulling strength from the floor.......and when I wanted to train my DL hard, I wouldn't push the olympic lifts hard and maybe use power cleans as a warm-up to deads and power snatches as a warm up to squats just to keep my timing and groove.

Lately, I have a desire to pound both my DL and olympic lifts......I'd like some opinions on this or some success or failure stories......

 

[kiloamp]

I was just wondering if I could get some feedback from people regarding their thoughts on pushing deadlifts, cleans, and snatches all in the same training cycle?

I've never done this before.....when I wanted to work on my olympic lifts, I'd back off the deads and use them as well as SLDLs occasionally at the end of a workout just to maintain my heavy pulling strength from the floor.......and when I wanted to train my DL hard, I wouldn't push the olympic lifts hard and maybe use power cleans as a warm-up to deads and power snatches as a warm up to squats just to keep my timing and groove.

Lately, I have a desire to pound both my DL and olympic lifts......I'd like some opinions on this or some success or failure stories......

In my own case, I found it didn't work well to push both deadlifts and the Olympic lifts at the same time. Like many others, I switched from Powerlifting to Olympic Lifting and thought I could maintain a high level in one while progessing in the other ... didn't work. Maybe it was the radical change of form needed for the switch or maybe it has to do with absolute vs. explosive strength etc. Whatever the case, I found that I had to really cut back on the heavy deads to progress in the Olympic lifts.

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

Did your deadlift weights drop after you made the switch and had to cut back on them, kilo? A lot of people seem to say the explosive pulling still helps increase their deads.

 

[mekannik]

Right now I am focusing more on the dead and squat than the O-lifts. I include some hang snatches on my speed day for technique and because I find them fun. Power shrugs are included on my max effort day to keep the hip drive mechanism in practice.

They are cousins - but fundamentally different on the execution/setup side.

 

[kiloamp]

Did your deadlift weights drop after you made the switch and had to cut back on them, kilo? A lot of people seem to say the explosive pulling still helps increase their deads.

No, like the others, my deadlifts increased when I added the Olympic lifts. It was the Olympic lifts that seemed to suffer from continuing the heavy deads.

 

[fortunatesun]

From what I've done of this type of training I've enjoyed it, but I suppose it depends on what your goals are. These days I train Westside, but I'm not into the competative aspect of powerlifting, just increasing my strength and general physical fitness. Last spring I started using O lifts as assistance exercises (sets of 6-9 reps done after a primary lift- deadlifts for example). I was totally impressed with the way they hit muscle groups in ways not often utilized in my present routine or in the traditional BBing I had done. I'd feel flow through my core or back of muscle groupings really being stressed for the first time. Net result- Definately a higher level of overall fitness as well as better strength and stability although I'm not sure that the type of strength these O lifts develop always translate well to an immediate increase in the major lifts. It's got to help in the long run, though.