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An explanation of my banning

Lestat

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This isn't meant to make anyone look bad, point the finger, etc. Just an explanation because I know how curious I get when shit goes down.

I was banned last night for about 3 hours, you could also call it a timeout, although my user title said BANNED and the person who banned me said "BYE!" But that really isn't important.

What lead to this?

I have a thread titled "End of Faith" in which some controversial topics are discussed, mainly religious ones. Lots of people have strong feelings on it and any religious or political discussion on this board can be viewed as a powder keg and all of us are running around with lit torches.

Out of nowhere, another mod jumped on the thread caling me a variety of profane names for really no reason except that he didn't agree with some of my views.

I responded back with an equally rude response, I didn't know the user so I fired back with the best flames I had at my disposal, one of which was accusing him of being a source, seemed like a good idea at the time but it was not, its one thing to berate someone, but bringing in the idea of the person being a source could have serious repercussions for the user, the site, etc. Especially given all the bad press that steroids get and what not. I wouldn't take back the original post, as it was simply a response to this user's original post, but I wouldn't have included any accusations of being a source.

Some time later another moderator came online and saw my post. The person I was flaming was also a moderator and a friend of this moderator. He edited my post, but allowed the original post from the moderator to stand. This post said things like "you are a pussy" and a "miserable bitch."

I was furious, my post was edited and I was given a warning, yet the original post to which i was only responding was left untouched.

I immediately (without thinking) made a post directed towards this moderator questioning his actions, throwing in some insults, telling him to get lost. A bit of poor judgement on my part, I was lived and pulled a "act first, think later" that I am sure some of you are familiar with. I'd handle it differently if given the chance next time and I have personally apologized to that moderator for the public nature of my "call out."

A site admin logged in and reversed the timeout/ban,and PMed me to explain the whole deal. I emailed both mods in question and straightened things out with them, and here I am today.
 
I think it comes down to respect.

people are going to have different opinions, especially about something as controversial as religion.

a person's arguement holds no water if they can't show respect for someone elses, whether a mod, a member, or your own mother.

This is why i rarely discuss my religion- which is the same as lestat's btw. people are going to disagree with it, try to change it, get mad, get nasty, etc.
my usual course of action is to turn the other cheek, because once it resorts to that, i feel i've won.

anyway, agree to disagree and hopefully everyone can respect everyone else.
 
religion is a toughy subject... im not religious...but if someone were to insult my religion i would be offended...

but aside from that, no acusations here... i hope all that BS is over and we can all move on :)
 
big4life said:
HEY EVERYBODY LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!!



:wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:



:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:


Please note that this thread is not an attempt to get attention, because the thread starter has said repeatedly that he doesn't take the net seriously.
how's it going bro?
 
big4life said:
HEY EVERYBODY LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!!



:wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:



:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:


Please note that this thread is not an attempt to get attention, because the thread starter has said repeatedly that he doesn't take the net seriously.

hey, weren't you an elite mentor or something?
what happened?
can I have.. you know...
 
Mistakes happen. Especially when emotions get overrun because of the personal nature of someone's else post when directed at you. If you are going to harsh on someone, keep it to their post, their viewpoint, their opinion, but don't direct it at them personally. Because if you do, you better expect them respond in kind. And when they do you better not start crying about it.

Whether you agree or not, Lestat had a nice thread going on about "that" topic before it blew up. Religion is a touchy subject, but he had presented a clear view of his opinions and why others may or may not agree with him.
 
AAP said:
Mistakes happen. Especially when emotions get overrun because of the personal nature of someone's else post when directed at you. If you are going to harsh on someone, keep it to their post, their viewpoint, their opinion, but don't direct it at them personally. Because if you do, you better expect them respond in kind. And when they do you better not start crying about it.

Whether you agree or not, Lestat had a nice thread going on about "that" topic before it blew up. Religion is a touchy subject, but he had presented a clear view of his opinions and why others may or may not agree with him.
Agree with you and Deterass.


C&C is also a different place from the AAS board where Polfa is more at home. There he is a knowledgable resource and well respected, here, do we really respect anyone? Certainly not when the flame throwers get brought out. I've spoken with him since and we are cool, I think he just jumped in the deep end and had no idea what he was getting into. RADAR came to his defense, you mods stick together, which is a good thing, but in this case everyone was out of line (myself included).
 
Lestat said:
Agree with you and Deterass.


C&C is also a different place from the AAS board where Polfa is more at home. There he is a knowledgable resource and well respected, here, do we really respect anyone? Certainly not when the flame throwers get brought out. I've spoken with him since and we are cool, I think he just jumped in the deep end and had no idea what he was getting into. RADAR came to his defense, you mods stick together, which is a good thing, but in this case everyone was out of line (myself included).

agreed. except for the part where you left my name off at the top.

its easy to get out of line when you're passionate about something.
 
No lives were lost in the discussion of religion !!! Just bruised egos.

Unlike the real world, where hundreds of millions have died because of taking one side or another. Thats why religion is always a hot topic, no matter where discussed.

Glad things are back to normal in a sense in C&C.
 
Lestat said:
This isn't meant to make anyone look bad, point the finger, etc. Just an explanation because I know how curious I get when shit goes down.

I was banned last night for about 3 hours, you could also call it a timeout, although my user title said BANNED and the person who banned me said "BYE!" But that really isn't important.

What lead to this?

I have a thread titled "End of Faith" in which some controversial topics are discussed, mainly religious ones. Lots of people have strong feelings on it and any religious or political discussion on this board can be viewed as a powder keg and all of us are running around with lit torches.

Out of nowhere, another mod jumped on the thread caling me a variety of profane names for really no reason except that he didn't agree with some of my views.

I responded back with an equally rude response, I didn't know the user so I fired back with the best flames I had at my disposal, one of which was accusing him of being a source, seemed like a good idea at the time but it was not, its one thing to berate someone, but bringing in the idea of the person being a source could have serious repercussions for the user, the site, etc. Especially given all the bad press that steroids get and what not. I wouldn't take back the original post, as it was simply a response to this user's original post, but I wouldn't have included any accusations of being a source.

Some time later another moderator came online and saw my post. The person I was flaming was also a moderator and a friend of this moderator. He edited my post, but allowed the original post from the moderator to stand. This post said things like "you are a pussy" and a "miserable bitch."

I was furious, my post was edited and I was given a warning, yet the original post to which i was only responding was left untouched.

I immediately (without thinking) made a post directed towards this moderator questioning his actions, throwing in some insults, telling him to get lost. A bit of poor judgement on my part, I was lived and pulled a "act first, think later" that I am sure some of you are familiar with. I'd handle it differently if given the chance next time and I have personally apologized to that moderator for the public nature of my "call out."

A site admin logged in and reversed the timeout/ban,and PMed me to explain the whole deal. I emailed both mods in question and straightened things out with them, and here I am today.

my dear friend, I think it is time we meet and actually go out and pick up women. this post has just confirmed that you need help for your addiction to EF........ if this does not stop you will officially be labelled as "Hi, my name is lestat and I have no life bro"
 
Maverick said:
my dear friend, I think it is time we meet and actually go out and pick up women. this post has just confirmed that you need help for your addiction to EF........ if this does not stop you will officially be labelled as "Hi, my name is lestat and I have no life bro"


this coming from the guy who posts his Chris Masterson face in his avatar?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Lestat said:
Agree with you and Deterass.


C&C is also a different place from the AAS board where Polfa is more at home. There he is a knowledgable resource and well respected, here, do we really respect anyone? Certainly not when the flame throwers get brought out. I've spoken with him since and we are cool, I think he just jumped in the deep end and had no idea what he was getting into. RADAR came to his defense, you mods stick together, which is a good thing, but in this case everyone was out of line (myself included).

Lestat, I hope we can call this finished. I dont want to see anyone off this site cause of shit like this, especially for C&C Forum, whether it's a mod or you, we have all played well in the future, just assure me it's over between you and those involved behind the scenes. I wont mention names, but know about the situation and the whole thing disturbs me, I just hope it's done and we can all learn a lesson and grow up a little bit from lessons learned.
 
indy69camaro said:
Lestat, I hope we can call this finished. I dont want to see anyone off this site cause of shit like this, especially for C&C Forum, whether it's a mod or you, we have all played well in the future, just assure me it's over between you and those involved behind the scenes. I wont mention names, but know about the situation and the whole thing disturbs me, I just hope it's done and we can all learn a lesson and grow up a little bit from lessons learned.
agreed
 
What religion is lestat? I thought he was one of those "nothings" or he evolved from a chicken egg or something?
 
curling said:
What religion is lestat? I thought he was one of those "nothings" or he evolved from a chicken egg or something?
I believe that almost anything is possible, but I have nothing to make me believe that any of the currently popular religions have any factual basis to them.

Basically when asked about the existance of a god, my answer is a rational one, "I don't know."
 
Lestat said:
This isn't meant to make anyone look bad, point the finger, etc. Just an explanation because I know how curious I get when shit goes down.

I was banned last night for about 3 hours, you could also call it a timeout, although my user title said BANNED and the person who banned me said "BYE!" But that really isn't important.

What lead to this?

I have a thread titled "End of Faith" in which some controversial topics are discussed, mainly religious ones. Lots of people have strong feelings on it and any religious or political discussion on this board can be viewed as a powder keg and all of us are running around with lit torches.

Out of nowhere, another mod jumped on the thread caling me a variety of profane names for really no reason except that he didn't agree with some of my views.

I responded back with an equally rude response, I didn't know the user so I fired back with the best flames I had at my disposal, one of which was accusing him of being a source, seemed like a good idea at the time but it was not, its one thing to berate someone, but bringing in the idea of the person being a source could have serious repercussions for the user, the site, etc. Especially given all the bad press that steroids get and what not. I wouldn't take back the original post, as it was simply a response to this user's original post, but I wouldn't have included any accusations of being a source.

Some time later another moderator came online and saw my post. The person I was flaming was also a moderator and a friend of this moderator. He edited my post, but allowed the original post from the moderator to stand. This post said things like "you are a pussy" and a "miserable bitch."

I was furious, my post was edited and I was given a warning, yet the original post to which i was only responding was left untouched.

I immediately (without thinking) made a post directed towards this moderator questioning his actions, throwing in some insults, telling him to get lost. A bit of poor judgement on my part, I was lived and pulled a "act first, think later" that I am sure some of you are familiar with. I'd handle it differently if given the chance next time and I have personally apologized to that moderator for the public nature of my "call out."

A site admin logged in and reversed the timeout/ban,and PMed me to explain the whole deal. I emailed both mods in question and straightened things out with them, and here I am today.







Thats only Half the story and you know it
I HaD 3 THINGS GOING ON ALL AT ONCE i did not have the time at the moment to review that whole thread ,there were other mods there so don't put it all on me.

You had the absolute gall to call me out on this forum ,that i did not appreciate,i believe the term was "A worthless piece of shit of a moderator", I still expect an apology!

RADAR
 
RADAR said:
Thats only Half the story and you know it
I HaD 3 THINGS GOING ON ALL AT ONCE i did not have the time at the moment to review that whole thread ,there were other mods there so don't put it all on me.

You had the absolute gall to call me out on this forum ,that i did not appreciate,"i believe the term was "a worthless piece of shit of a moderator" I still expect an apology!

RADAR
How does you having 3 things going on have anything to do with anything?

You obviously had enough time to edit my post. And in my post that you edited was the ORIGINAL post that I was responding to, are you telling me you somehow missed it?

And I absolutely put it ALL on you, why? Because you were the one that edited my post and said you had had enough of me! Other moderators took much more tactful approaches,... karma messages, PMs, etc. I responded back to them in a similar, and respectful fashion. For you I responded back the same way you responded to me, a public thread.

Its funny how I've completely worked things out with PolfaJelfa, yet you sit here demanding an apology? As far as I am concerned you can pound sand bro, you got the apology you are going to get from me, and all I hear from you is excuses.
 
Lestat said:
Basically when asked about the existance of a god, my answer is a rational one, "I don't know."

I feel the same way maing.I just keep it to myself,some peeps really look down on people who question the bible.Fuckem
 
RADAR said:
Thats only Half the story and you know it
I HaD 3 THINGS GOING ON ALL AT ONCE i did not have the time at the moment to review that whole thread ,there were other mods there so don't put it all on me.

You had the absolute gall to call me out on this forum ,that i did not appreciate,i believe the term was "A worthless piece of shit of a moderator", I still expect an apology!

RADAR

I thought you were gone ? what happened....... your internet power got the best of you and you could not give up your modship ?
 
God hates all of you..especially Samoth and his scientific evil ways...

take your voodoo you call physics elsewhere samoth. jesus hates you. and me. so fuck it,l lets have a beer
 
Deterass said:
I think Polfa went overboard with his flaming , George knows it and Polfa can no longer Moderate C&C because of his actions.Thank you George.

yep. you just cant mix roid monkeys and retards. its best they just stay in the meathead forum before someone gets bombed to oblivion.
 
Lestat said:
This isn't meant to make anyone look bad, point the finger, etc. Just an explanation because I know how curious I get when shit goes down.

I was banned last night for about 3 hours, you could also call it a timeout, although my user title said BANNED and the person who banned me said "BYE!" But that really isn't important.

What lead to this?

I have a thread titled "End of Faith" in which some controversial topics are discussed, mainly religious ones. Lots of people have strong feelings on it and any religious or political discussion on this board can be viewed as a powder keg and all of us are running around with lit torches.

Out of nowhere, another mod jumped on the thread caling me a variety of profane names for really no reason except that he didn't agree with some of my views.

I responded back with an equally rude response, I didn't know the user so I fired back with the best flames I had at my disposal, one of which was accusing him of being a source, seemed like a good idea at the time but it was not, its one thing to berate someone, but bringing in the idea of the person being a source could have serious repercussions for the user, the site, etc. Especially given all the bad press that steroids get and what not. I wouldn't take back the original post, as it was simply a response to this user's original post, but I wouldn't have included any accusations of being a source.

Some time later another moderator came online and saw my post. The person I was flaming was also a moderator and a friend of this moderator. He edited my post, but allowed the original post from the moderator to stand. This post said things like "you are a pussy" and a "miserable bitch."

I was furious, my post was edited and I was given a warning, yet the original post to which i was only responding was left untouched.

I immediately (without thinking) made a post directed towards this moderator questioning his actions, throwing in some insults, telling him to get lost. A bit of poor judgement on my part, I was lived and pulled a "act first, think later" that I am sure some of you are familiar with. I'd handle it differently if given the chance next time and I have personally apologized to that moderator for the public nature of my "call out."

A site admin logged in and reversed the timeout/ban,and PMed me to explain the whole deal. I emailed both mods in question and straightened things out with them, and here I am today.

I'd never ban or give a timeout to a paying customer. It's GS bread and butter, not mine so I dont picture myself screwing around with his business. Other mods may do whatever they want, but I have my own philosophy.
 
manny78 said:
I'd never ban or give a timeout to a paying customer. It's GS bread and butter, not mine so I dont picture myself screwing around with his business. Other mods may do whatever they want, but I have my own philosophy.

Yeah, its all fun and games until someone get's their eye poked out.
 
Pervis Ellison said:
God hates all of you..especially Samoth and his scientific evil ways...

take your voodoo you call physics elsewhere samoth. jesus hates you. and me. so fuck it,l lets have a beer

After things I've done in the past, I'm sure that he reeeaaallly hates me, lol.

MGD is the drink of metal, so I don't care if you want some other pussy brand, bottoms-fucking-up, broly!! Also, I hope you like drinking out of pitchers, as those tiny cups are quite small and really don't hold much.



:cow:
 
manny78 said:
I'd never ban or give a timeout to a paying customer. It's GS bread and butter, not mine so I dont picture myself screwing around with his business. Other mods may do whatever they want, but I have my own philosophy.


I think lestat has a life plat membership, so he's already paid up and also bought every ebook. No money left to squeeze from him.

I'm suprised he hasen't been banned for that reason alone, it's all about the money :chomp:
 
chewyxrage said:
I think lestat has a life plat membership, so he's already paid up and also bought every ebook. No money left to squeeze from him.

I'm suprised he hasen't been banned for that reason alone, it's all about the money :chomp:
lol....

plat membership + karma + multiple plat accounts + gift plat accounts + all kinds of sponsors odds and ends....
 
samoth said:
After things I've done in the past, I'm sure that he reeeaaallly hates me, lol.

MGD is the drink of metal, so I don't care if you want some other pussy brand, bottoms-fucking-up, broly!! Also, I hope you like drinking out of pitchers, as those tiny cups are quite small and really don't hold much.



:cow:

at least we can join forces in our fight against the Jewish Carpenter. His legions are strong, but we have nuclear technology :)

Actually I more enjoy things like Red Bull/Grey Goose or Jaeger Bombs
 
Pervis Ellison said:
at least we can join forces in our fight against the Jewish Carpenter. His legions are strong, but we have nuclear technology :)

Actually I more enjoy things like Red Bull/Grey Goose or Jaeger Bombs

Jaeger Bombs are totally the drink of college kids, lol... but every time I go back home and hit up the bars with my friends, they seem to think that they're shots or something. Like, they'll down some tiny little cup of the stuff and be done. I don't even drink much and I'm, like, dude, this is a drink... if you want a shot, go for the 151. You're supposed to drink J-bombs like beer. Sheesh.



:cow:
 
Lestat said:
This isn't meant to make anyone look bad, point the finger, etc. Just an explanation because I know how curious I get when shit goes down.

I was banned last night for about 3 hours, you could also call it a timeout, although my user title said BANNED and the person who banned me said "BYE!" But that really isn't important.

What lead to this?

I have a thread titled "End of Faith" in which some controversial topics are discussed, mainly religious ones. Lots of people have strong feelings on it and any religious or political discussion on this board can be viewed as a powder keg and all of us are running around with lit torches.

Out of nowhere, another mod jumped on the thread caling me a variety of profane names for really no reason except that he didn't agree with some of my views.

I responded back with an equally rude response, I didn't know the user so I fired back with the best flames I had at my disposal, one of which was accusing him of being a source, seemed like a good idea at the time but it was not, its one thing to berate someone, but bringing in the idea of the person being a source could have serious repercussions for the user, the site, etc. Especially given all the bad press that steroids get and what not. I wouldn't take back the original post, as it was simply a response to this user's original post, but I wouldn't have included any accusations of being a source.

Some time later another moderator came online and saw my post. The person I was flaming was also a moderator and a friend of this moderator. He edited my post, but allowed the original post from the moderator to stand. This post said things like "you are a pussy" and a "miserable bitch."

I was furious, my post was edited and I was given a warning, yet the original post to which i was only responding was left untouched.


I immediately (without thinking) made a post directed towards this moderator questioning his actions, throwing in some insults, telling him to get lost. A bit of poor judgement on my part, I was lived and pulled a "act first, think later" that I am sure some of you are familiar with. I'd handle it differently if given the chance next time and I have personally apologized to that moderator for the public nature of my "call out."

A site admin logged in and reversed the timeout/ban,and PMed me to explain the whole deal. I emailed both mods in question and straightened things out with them, and here I am today.


I didn't think that exchange was bad at all, really.

And you spelled "livid" wrong too, lol.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
I didn't think that exchange was bad at all, really.

And you spelled "livid" wrong too, lol.
you are right on both counts.

The exchange was NOT that bad.. polfa started, I responded.. it wasn't the ultimate flame fest or anything... the exhange wasn't what got it,.. it was that someone manipulated my posts but left his there.
 
AAP said:
Mistakes happen. Especially when emotions get overrun because of the personal nature of someone's else post when directed at you. If you are going to harsh on someone, keep it to their post, their viewpoint, their opinion, but don't direct it at them personally. Because if you do, you better expect them respond in kind. And when they do you better not start crying about it.

Whether you agree or not, Lestat had a nice thread going on about "that" topic before it blew up. Religion is a touchy subject, but he had presented a clear view of his opinions and why others may or may not agree with him.


We wre just talking about this same thing a couple weeks ago in a thread I had going AAP
 
chewyxrage said:
I think lestat has a life plat membership, so he's already paid up and also bought every ebook. No money left to squeeze from him.

I'm suprised he hasen't been banned for that reason alone, it's all about the money :chomp:
I thought about this when I went lifetime.
 
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