alright starting training tomarrow

[Kane Fan]

thats not a bad thing to have that as your biggest problem! that will go away w/ time if you like doing this and that seems obvious. it would be a lot worse to say i keep getting choked or swept or subbed or had some serious technical issues to correct.

well I am weak on subs but we devoted the entire first 3 months to striking with just some breif grappling things covered so I don't really consider it a weakness yet
after we work that smore I'll see
so I guess it would be better to say my biggest STRIKER problem is the flinching
and I'm not 100% on this but I may have glass legs
I havn't taken any low kicks yet
but I'm sure I don't have a glass jaw so that's one bonus

 

[Judo Tom]

IMO that makes sense especially for a big guy like yourself.. start with striking.. then do clinch work then work a ground gam

have you worked on take down defense?

what position do you normally end up in when transitioning from standing to matwork?

 

[Kane Fan]

we don't have Mats so we havn't done takedowns yet we start on the ground
we are doing all crossbody work right now
I actually havn't done any takedown defence yet
I'm not imensly woried about it tho I"m learning the ground pretty quickly
I have a rediculously easy time rolling people out from mount to where I'm seated mount on them
especially if they shoot
I have an easy time rolling them over my head
but rolling them to the side for a reversal is really tough for me
dunno why

 

[Judo Tom]

you sound exactly like 2 different training partners of mine who havean incredible amount of strength

when someone has side body use your hips arms and legs to create space and turn in towards him and pull gaurd.. take him off balance and gang up on smaller body parts to create the advantage you need. creating space is usually key to escaping side control if you are trying to get gaurd

for take down defense i can see what your saying i dont think many people will be trying hip tosses and head and arm type throws.. you should just be concerned with sneaky guys going for your ankles and legs.

i bet it would be fun to do drills where you use knees and elbows on someone shooting in for a sloppy type takedown

i really dont even know what it would be like for someone to start attempting to punch my face when i try a throw. luckily when you use good gripping and off balancing it shouldnt matter much.. in theory

im starting to think about this mma thing more and more i want to start exposing myself to more and more situations and arts and see what interests me most.

 

[Kane Fan]

I do have a lot of strength
if someone guards me I think they will get slammed

oh and my instructor said Im' pretty good at pulling guard from side
what I do is I get the one leg around behind them and slide it accross their back which moves them a tad to make more space for my foot of the other leg
if that makes sence

 

[Judo Tom]

yeah it makes a lot of sense.. look to use your leg in a similar fashion in different situations. dont place your leg on his back anchor yourself on or try to drive your leg through him.. it works great for controlling people when you are going for a sub

ahh i forget about slamming a lot of time for a big guy that is a great way to pass guard. In judo competition if you were in my guard and went for a slam as soon as my shoulders cleared the mat the match would stop and we would start from standing again. so it is only useful then as a defensive tactic not offensive.

 

[Kane Fan]

in Judo if I am in your guard and yoru shoulders are down for 30 seconds I win right?

 

[Judo Tom]

no! if you are in guard or half guard or any variations of them then the 'clock' does not start once you pass gaurd to any type of mount/side body/ northsouth then you are pinning and the clock starts.

you can transfer from position to position and the clock keeps running and 25 seconds into a pin then you would win but at any tim if i get control of your one or both of your legs with both of my legs then the clock stops.. also if i get belly down the clock stops as well

also the shoulders have nothing to do with it.. both of my shoulders can be up in the air and i can still be pinned.. all you need is to be controlling me, exerting downward force, be mainly face down and be in control of your legs

25 secs is 1 point or a win
20 secs is 1/2 point ... 2 half points end a match
15 secs is 1/4 point ... 1/4 points NEVER add up
10 secs is 1/8 point ... they never add up either

also if you have 15 1/4 points from throws/pins and i have one 1/2 point then at the end of the match i would be awarded the win

in sambo you are awarded points if you get someone in your guard.. i believe.. not 100% sure but pretty sure..

 

[Kane Fan]

I have some interest in Sambo and Judo
thanks for that info

so if you roll over and give up your back then you are stood up?
or do you have a different menaing for belly down
also we didn't get to train saturday only friday
we had a 2 hour breif session where w worked some subs from crossbody

 

[Kane Fan]

this sucks
I don't think we are goign to train again this upcoming week and we didn't this last week
*sigh*
instructor moved like an hour away