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A Rook startin out, learnin as I Go All help is appreciated!

stick with a single ester test and add nothing elst to it. research AI's & PCT and make sure you got these items IN HAND b4 starting.
 
chris69 said:
#1 get your diet in check. research Anabolics so that you Know how to eat/lift ect..when on. For example: i add no additional sodium to my food, these are all things you need to research about diet..thats 80%.
As far as Test, i ran Sustanon 250 for first cycle, some dont like it, i did. 1 inj a week, and i also ran 20/30 mg Dianabol wks1-4..Now like a Bro already mentioned, dianabol gives Water retention! this is were diet comes in to play...i eat clean as a whiskle,and that reduces Bloat ect........ so Read on Bro, and swell the head before the Bod !
good advice from a good bro
 
Do you have a suggestion on a website or book that will teach me the basics(in lamans terms) of cycles, appropriate diet, the different types stuff out there, etc...
That way I can get a good base of knowledge to work off of.
 
lildawgbigbite said:
Do you have a suggestion on a website or book that will teach me the basics(in lamans terms) of cycles, appropriate diet, the different types stuff out there, etc...
That way I can get a good base of knowledge to work off of.

a steroid pharmacology type book would be ok but not one suggesting cycles. i think u need to hear many opinions, reason why, research combinations, etc etc. A book is usually just one man's opinion. though if u look at the EF store there is at least one by AR. i have never read it so i cant comment on it.
 
lildawgbigbite said:
Do you have a suggestion on a website or book that will teach me the basics(in lamans terms) of cycles, appropriate diet, the different types stuff out there, etc...
That way I can get a good base of knowledge to work off of.
i recomend jekyll to hyde transformation .. sold on this very site in ebook .. will teach u all the basics of everthing diet to riods etc ... excellent read
 
well, do you have any recommendations on a single ester-test?
And the way a cycle should be set up for someone like me?
And what kind of work out do you suggest?

I did find that book you said, by Anthony Roberts, It looks helpful.
 
lildawgbigbite said:
well, do you have any recommendations on a single ester-test?
And the way a cycle should be set up for someone like me?
And what kind of work out do you suggest?

I did find that book you said, by Anthony Roberts, It looks helpful.

depends on goals.

test-e & test-c are similar and are usually injected just once a week. a good first time dose is 250mg-500mg ew. though it takes a little time to build up and feel it full force though it does start to go to work right away. test-p you will "feel" quicker, typically has less bloat than the other two (though this goes away after pct) but needs to be an eod injection minimum. similar dosage ew as the other two.

u will need ancillaries for pct and an AI for during your cycle.

your workouts should be all in order to begin with prior to starting aas. if u want to post your current workout routine i would be happy to critique but this may not be the best thing. cuz what i find works for me doesnt work for everyone and vice versa. your training is a very individualized thing. i can make one suggestion. stick with heavy compound free weight exercises and take advantage of the new found strength!!!! drop the finishing exercises and go for broke my friend.
 
Ok so I have learned that for a first time I want a singl ester-test, Secondly I need an aromatose inhibitor during the cycle and in the PCT, and finally I wiil need to add something in the PCT to help save my gains and recover my ownnatural hormone levels. So ho does this look:

Test-e or Test-c 250-500mg a day for 4-6 weeks
Aromasin during and 4 days in the PCT at 20mg a day
Start PCT the day after cycle, add Nolvadex 20mg a day for 6 days

Does this sound adequate or am I missing something?
I also have seen guys adding B vitamins and Vitamin E, necassary and why?
 
lildawgbigbite said:
Ok so I have learned that for a first time I want a singl ester-test, Secondly I need an aromatose inhibitor during the cycle and in the PCT - post cycle therapy - , and finally I wiil need to add something in the PCT to help save my gains and recover my ownnatural hormone levels. So ho does this look:

Test-e or Test-c 250-500mg a day for 4-6 weeks
Aromasin during and 4 days in the PCT at 20mg a day
Start PCT the day after cycle, add Nolvadex 20mg a day for 6 days

Does this sound adequate or am I missing something?
I also have seen guys adding B vitamins and Vitamin E, necassary and why?

i would run it for at least 8 weeks, possibly ten. u will feel it "full force" by weeks 4-6 just as u r ending.
i run AI's on an as needed basis only. some estrogen can be a good thing for gains. if u know u r prone or quickly find out u r prone to gyno then definitely run it throughout the cycle.

get some hcg for pct as well. why nolvadex for only 6 days?
 
8and20 said:
i would run it for at least 8 weeks, possibly ten. u will feel it "full force" by weeks 4-6 just as u r ending.
i run aromatase inhibitor's on an as needed basis only. some estrogen can be a good thing for gains. if u know u r prone or quickly find out u r prone to gynecomastia then definitely run it throughout the cycle.

get some HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - for PCT - post cycle therapy - as well. why nolvadex for only 6 days?

So get the sigle ester-test, I can run the aromatase inhibitirs as aprecaution( suggestions on what kind?),the day after the cycle start the HCG?( how long should I run the HCG?) And should I add ANYthing else, vitamins, etc.?

Sorry to be such a pain in your ass (you have been very helpful) I am just trying to get all my ducks in a row before I get this show on the road.

Oh yeah one more question, Whats with the advertisements for some of these pharmacys and what not, even on this site, that claim to sell the real deal? Is it legit or What?\
Thanks again
 
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