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a plausible explanation for haunting phenomenon

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heatherrae said:
yes, this is what I mean! Everyone who tried to spend the night wouldn't stay. Grown people literally would flee in the night. We all were always very afraid in that house. There was a heavy, dark feeling like something was just going to eat you alive. It's hard to explain.

The only thing I can't explain is why we were hallucinating the same things. I had hundreds of dolls. So, why would my brother and I hallucinate that this particular doll did the exact same things when we had not discussed it with each other. He said he saw it lift out of a rocking chair and wave its arms around and get a meniacal look on its face. I saw it do the same thing but it levitated out of the bed and hovered over my mom's face while I was sleeping in bed with my mom.
It's virtually impossible for two people to have identical hallucinations at different times unless they've shared the experience with each other, so if you never told your brother and vice versa I'm quite inclined to believe that what you two had was legit. Also the fact that people who would come over to the house were uncomfortable to the point of leaving without being told anything about the property is a strong indicator that something was going on.

EVERY single place I've been in that was supposedly haunted had a similar unpleasant feeling, a feeling of someone being behind you/in the same room with you/watching you. I was never in a place that was as actively haunted as the one you're describing.

Now what I do wonder about is if the EMF somehow amped up what was already in the house? Non physical manifestations are energy, and maybe if there's extra energy in the atmosphere it can build up the metaphysical muscles :whatever: who knows. Interesting point of discussion for the future. I've wondered if somehow manifestations that occur near natural energy sources, i.e., high concentration of certain minerals in the soil or proximity to ley lines, aren't one of the causes of certain types of hauntings to begin with.
 
velvett said:
DEAR GOD PIE!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been dying for pie for weeks now.

I just want the filling, i don't care about the crust.

I will eat your crust.......

and then we can go back to your place and I will eat your filling too...... :evil:
 
velvett said:
DEAR GOD PIE!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been dying for pie for weeks now.

I just want the filling, i don't care about the crust.


I'm on the hunt for a good strawberry-rhubarb pie. Summer classic.
 
heatherrae said:
Okay, so laugh if you want to, but I lived in a house when I was about in first grade that was "haunted."

Some of the things that we experienced was whispering, footsteps, doors slamming, hooded dark figure that would appear and disappear. (Other family members saw more than me. I never saw the dark figure or heard the whispering). Also, I had an obviously murdered bunny rabbit and some other stuff. However, the worst even for me and most dramatic event involved a doll that levitated and did some pretty wicked looking stuff.

My brother freaked out about the doll, too. Some other stuff happened with the doll but I don't want to make this post too long by explaining all the stuff that happened in this house. Suffice it to say that the crazy shit that went down was almost as dramatic as say the Amityville horror movie...lol.

As adults, Chuck and I discussed the doll. We had never talked to each other about it before. He described seeing it levitate too (at a different time and when he was alone with it) What he described was very similar to what I saw, and I had not told him any details about what I saw the doll do.

Well, anyway, I was back in my home town yesterday and I drove by that house and took some pictures of it and tried to work up the nerve to ask the current occupants if they had ever experienced anything, but I couldn't work up the nerve to knock on their door.

Anyway, I went up the road that lies behind the house. It goes pretty much straight up a HUGE hill and we were never allowed to go up there as kids. Well, it turns out that the top of the hill is where all the towers are (I think just electrical towers is what I was seeing). The road was so hard to get up to the top that I got scared I was going to get stuck. I really needed a jeep to be doing this. It had deep ruts in the road and holes and was so steep.

So, I was thinking, do you think electrical lines over head like that could cause the brain to malfunction and hallucinate. If so, how do we explain that we had the same hallucination? I never saw anything odd the rest of my life after we left that house except that the doll showed up at a new house after I threw it out in the trash at the old house. My brother experienced some other things other places, but I never did. As far as I know, my mother didn't either.

As background, people who came to visit us at that house often left and wouldn't stay after seeing things or hearing things.

So, do you think this could be a phenomenon caused by a static field or something?


Does everyone in your town drink moonshine?
 
musclemom said:
It's virtually impossible for two people to have identical hallucinations at different times unless they've shared the experience with each other, so if you never told your brother and vice versa I'm quite inclined to believe that what you two had was legit.

No, it's virtually impossible for a doll to levitate and start spinning its fucking arms. They are siblings, so their brains are gonna be wired at least somewhat similarly. There was probably something about THAT particular doll that was creepy to them, so if they were to hallucinate about a doll, of course it would be the same one.
 
I think Heatherae is going down memory lane going around to all of her OLD lovers lanes and having memorys of the goood olllllllllllllllllllllllllle days.....lololololol
 
Man, I could be wrong... but I think some people have very vivid imaginations... Some claim that God talks to them... I've never seen anything visibly out of the ordinary in my entire life. And that's quite some time.
 
nimbus said:
No, it's virtually impossible for a doll to levitate and start spinning its fucking arms. They are siblings, so their brains are gonna be wired at least somewhat similarly. There was probably something about THAT particular doll that was creepy to them, so if they were to hallucinate about a doll, of course it would be the same one.
:whatever:

What are we, but energy? Take anything down to a small enough molecular level and we are NOTHING, most of an atom is nothingness. Just because you can't see the hands that hold the doll up and move it does not mean there are no hands, just hands made of something you can't perceive.

What annoys me is when people say "Nope, can't happen, goes against the laws of nature/is outside of my experiences/can't be reproduced under laboratory conditions, ergo, impossible/doesn't exist."

Look at the great mathematicians and astronomers whose science are the foundations of our current understanding of the natural world. How many of them were denounced as blasphemers or frauds in their time? A closed mind is the biggest indicator of ignorance and the greatest obstacle to progress in all of humanity.

If Heather says she saw something, I believe her, I don't give a fuck how old she was. I was a child, too, I believed in fantasy, but I NEVER saw anything fantastic in my childhood, and I knew the difference between waking and dreaming, why should I think any less of her? Children who hallucinate generally have something seriously wrong with their brains and don't usually have one or two hallucinations and never again. They generally hallucinate often until they end up in the doctor's office needing medication or surgery.
 
musclemom said:
:whatever:

What are we, but energy? Take anything down to a small enough molecular level and we are NOTHING, most of an atom is nothingness. Just because you can't see the hands that hold the doll up and move it does not mean there are no hands, just hands made of something you can't perceive.

What annoys me is when people say "Nope, can't happen, goes against the laws of nature/is outside of my experiences/can't be reproduced under laboratory conditions, ergo, impossible/doesn't exist."

Look at the great mathematicians and astronomers whose science are the foundations of our current understanding of the natural world. How many of them were denounced as blasphemers or frauds in their time? A closed mind is the biggest indicator of ignorance and the greatest obstacle to progress in all of humanity.

If Heather says she saw something, I believe her, I don't give a fuck how old she was. I was a child, too, I believed in fantasy, but I NEVER saw anything fantastic in my childhood, and I knew the difference between waking and dreaming, why should I think any less of her? Children who hallucinate generally have something seriously wrong with their brains and don't usually have one or two hallucinations and never again. They generally hallucinate often until they end up in the doctor's office needing medication or surgery.


I believe she saw something also, in her head. lol. what really makes me think she is hallucinating is that she said the doll got a maniacal look on its face. Nothing is gonna actually change the face of the doll, and then change it right back to the original state moments later. By the way, i have hallucinated (shrooming doesn't count) exactly one time in my life and then never again. Also i never said a "haunted house" wasn't possible, i just said a hallucination as more likely.
 
nimbus said:
I believe she saw something also, in her head. lol. what really makes me think she is hallucinating is that she said the doll got a maniacal look on its face. Nothing is gonna actually change the face of the doll, and then change it right back to the original state moments later. By the way, i have hallucinated (shrooming doesn't count) exactly one time in my life and then never again. Also i never said a "haunted house" wasn't possible, i just said a hallucination as more likely.
Well, as you notice, I haven't ruled out hallucinations, but it just seemed unlikely that I would hallucinate only in this one house. Why didn't I hallucinate any more after we moved? Kids do have vivid imaginations, and I didn't like to sleep alone. I also was only in the first grade, so I'm not ruling out those factors. It just seems weird that no one else would sleep there either.

On the side of the argument against an actual haunting, some new family has lived there for quite a long time and the house looks very pleasant (lots of flowers and such). If they were experiencing the same things, I would doubt that they would stay in the house.

As a side note, I gave the doll to a little girl because I threw it away and it somehow ended up under my bed in the new house and scared the holy living shit out of me. She died of anorexia and had a heart attack. :worried:
 
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