Makavelli had told me that 75mg ED a while back that its where the magic starts to happen. Been running 50mg ED until a week ago, bumped it up to 75mgED for just a week so far and the difference is unbelievable. Talk about sick pumps and insane vascularity. I think my veins are starting to get veins lol. But the biggest thing is the fact that i've been hitting ab's hard and with the tren its just cutting my midsection up like crayz and realy starting to make the ab's and obliques pop out. I'm just in shock that one compound is literally and drastically changing my body so fast. I honestly have to say that i will never run another cycle without Tren Ace. And strength, gosh dayumm. Bench from 245 5 reps to 265 5 reps in just 2 chest workouts. You gotta be kidding me right?!? I humbly bow down to the Tren GOD's.