3RDCYCLE - First E cycle considering frontload need help

[monoisntenough]

Hey Guys,

About to start my 3rd cycle, my first 2 were test p cycle and yielded good results, with no sides. Only disadvanges is the obvious one of EOD injections. This time im running test E, ive got 4 x10ml vials 200mg per ml. My previous cycle have been around the 8 week shorter cycles with prop, this time looking at something like below; Let me know where this could be improved. Also would love a informed decision on frontloading as the more i look into it the harder the decision becomes.

Week 1 - frontload test e - x2 dose (mon/thur 1000-1200mg)? assist on this
week 2 - 12 600mg (mon/thur injection) - armidex .5 eod
pct - nolva/clomid - standard protocol 4 weeks

Now with frontloading have read serveral different mathematical equations, which one do u believe is correct

1. Double dosage week one - eg 600mg/1200mg
2. (weekly mgs x 5 (halflife) / 7) + interval mgs

eg.: weekly mgs = 600
Interval mgs = 300

(600 * 5 / 7) + 250 = 678 mg first injection then continue start dosage.

3. have seen other equations using halflife at 8 days which again changes dosage.

If anyone can clarify for sure what is the best way to run the frontload, which will benefit in maximising blood levels faster without the risk of increased side effects.

thanks,

 

[EZ_E]

There is no way you need 1200 Mg's of test/week unless Jay Cutler is standing next to you on stage in Las Vegas in September...

"Standard PCT?" There's much better options in 2010...

What are your stats?

~EZ

 

[RADAR]

Agreed no need to front load.And drop the clomid ,nova and the 2 products below are all you need












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[OrbitNutrition.com]

Dont front load that is a nice waste, for pct screw the clomid add in some sustain alpah and lean x or unleashed and post cycle from needto.

 

[monoisntenough]

There is no way you need 1200 Mg's of test/week unless Jay Cutler is standing next to you on stage in Las Vegas in September...

"Standard PCT?" There's much better options in 2010...

What are your stats?

~EZ

Cheers for that, my stats are 88kg (190lb?ish), last measured at 10% bf....primed last few weeks so dropped prob a % from there. Righto i wont frontload i have 4 x 10ml 200mg vials = 8000mg

If no frontload then how would you run it? 650mg weekly x 12 weeks?

 

[needtogetaas]

why not use the tried and tested "oral kickstart"???

1 - 4 (insert your choice of oral here)

yes if you want a front load then this is the way to go

 

[monoisntenough]

so needtogas - If orals arent a option - how would u ron 8000mg available of test e?? 12 weeks/14 week cycle - bear in mind first two cycles were below;

1-6 weeks prop - 400mg per week - results - ave
1-8 weeks prop - 180eod - result - excellent 8kg gain maintain 6 after pct

 

[monoisntenough]

OZZIE i wanted to run npp as kickstart but being in Australia as you can understand the difficulties of getting decent gear. Also wanted to run prop as my kickstart but my source pushed me away from that idea. Dont mind how i run it, just want best results from gear available.

 

[monoisntenough]

Agreed no need to front load.And drop the clomid ,nova and the 2 products below are all you need


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Cheers mate. Never ran any other pct besides clomid and nolva...considering grabbing some hcg cause pct does hit me pretty hard. Not sure if these products can be purchased legally or get through customs in Australia, but i will look into it.

 

[EZ_E]

Cheers for that, my stats are 88kg (190lb?ish), last measured at 10% bf....primed last few weeks so dropped prob a % from there. Righto i wont frontload i have 4 x 10ml 200mg vials = 8000mg

If no frontload then how would you run it? 650mg weekly x 12 weeks?

500 mg's/week for 12 shoul do nicely....also don't skimp on the PCT:

HCgenerate
Unleashed
POst Cycle

All from needtobuildmuscle.com....don't know if he can get it to you in Australia but Needto can work wonders...

~EZ

 

[Nelson Montana]

Agreed no need to front load.And drop the clomid ,nova and the 2 products below are all you need










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Sorry Radar, have to disagree again here. Although clomid and nolva aren't needed for PCT, certain drugs are. HCG or HMG and aromasin or arimidex are invaluable. Also, Endoamp is a good anti catabolic, but it won't help restore HPTA.

Here are my suggestions for PCT:

HMG

UNLEASHED

HCGenerate

POST CYCLE

arimidex.

Followed by BRIDGE.


Also, I agree that an oral is a good kickstart and 1500 mgs of T a week is way more than you need.