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19 straight years with no PCT

bigtravis

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When I stsrted working for Ray Mentzer back in 87 in Redondo Beach,Ca. My bodybuilding intetest began. I remember starting out with Test. Cyp. 100mg per week along with 100mg. of the old Organon Deca that used to come in the itty bitty vials. Soon later and many runs later by 2005 I was running my unknowingly last cycle. 1750mg.of Sust. and 200 mg. of Prop per week along with 1200mg. of NPP per week. Dbol was low at 100mg/day. Slin was just at 4iu per day. During that span. I never touched nolva clomid nor hcg. Know why? Cause I never came off. In 05 there was alot going on. Especially on here. I had to quit cold turkey. The only damage it did was to me mentally. I had to be placed on Geodon and antidepressants. But from a sexual standpoint I was screwed. But yet that only took 6 months to correct itself. Aside from the end of this story. Im telling those that are curious. YES. No PCT is possible. But then again during that span. I never came off. But dont think it wont hurt you. Since 05 Ive had blood clots, peptic ulcer, hypertention, and half of my colon removed. Big-T
 
Thanks for the read...couple questions. Obviously you were not ever at hrt dose and were doing hard steroid abuse correct? What are your test levels now? Are you still on any depressants? Were you depressed or down ever before your 19yr run? Sorry for so many questions and I do have more, but this is a great opportunity to lean and share some possible answers to unknowns. THANKS
 
Yes Im training now. Started back 3 months ago after not touching a weight since the start of 06. I still take certain meds regarding the anti deps and klonopin and seroquel.
As far as my T levels...not dure right now. Plan to check around April. As for the blood clots,peptic ulcer, oh forgot two shoulder surgeries and a torn bicep, and the phsychological issues. Of course the docs are going to blame it on aas abuse. But no I wasnt depressed during the training days. The sudden cold turkey effect in my opinion is the cause of that.
 
from a sexual standpoint I was screwed. But yet that only took 6 months to correct itself.

You also said you don't know your test levels. So do you know if your HPTA returned to normal, or not?
 
cycling off and on is the best way to do it people. learn from this guy.

you can get stronger and bigger year over year with this strategy. I am now closing in on 200 pounds which I never imagined was possible being only 5 6. and I only run 2-3 cycles per year. all my blood work checks out perfect.. bp is excellent. lets use steroids smartly.. my baseline T levels return to the 500's when I come off. LH is humming as well.
 
cycling off and on is the best way to do it people. learn from this guy.

you can get stronger and bigger year over year with this strategy. I am now closing in on 200 pounds which I never imagined was possible being only 5 6. and I only run 2-3 cycles per year. all my blood work checks out perfect.. bp is excellent. lets use steroids smartly.. my baseline T levels return to the 500's when I come off. LH is humming as well.

T levels???? At 42years of age theyre gonna naturally be what they should be. around 250-275
 
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