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1000 lb bench... possible?

Is a 1000 pound bench possible?

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Dragon14

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I'm wondering what you guys think about the possibility of a 1000 pound bench. Can the tendons and ligaments support it? Are the muscles used big enough.. as with squats? Anyone know of any unofficial attempts that were even close?
 
I am convinced that Scot could get 925 - 975 if his organs could stand the extended anobolic use. At Bench America he appeared overtrained and overjuiced. Just my observation though.
 
900 will probably fall this year and I see 1000 as being goal for several lifters in the next few years. I can think of a few specific lifters who look like they have the bone structure and shear mass to support huge lifts in the 900 range ( mike miller, stan martin, andy feidler, bill crawford).
 
ouch that's heavy, oh well big whitey better make sure that back is feeling strong gonns need a hand off from you
 
MULE1 said:
ouch that's heavy, oh well big whitey better make sure that back is feeling strong gonns need a hand off from you

:lmao:
 
pwr_machine said:
Yeah, some fat guy is gonna do a double bodyweight bench press one day. :lmao:


You know man, thats just spitefull and mean....were all made diffrently I hate that....
 
MULE1 said:



You know man, thats just spitefull and mean....were all made diffrently I hate that....
Half a joke with a serious aspect to it also. We're already seeing triple bodyweight benches. Nonetheless, the 800 and change pound benches are getting all the publicity. Don't get me wrong, they're all impressive! Follow me?
 
pwr_machine said:
Half a joke with a serious aspect to it also. We're already seeing triple bodyweight benches. Nonetheless, the 800 and change pound benches are getting all the publicity. Don't get me wrong, they're all impressive! Follow me?


I'm with you my man, I don't take it as an insult, my light guys bust my ass all the time.
 
I think it is possible... but not as easy as some might think. The weight has gone up a lot in last 20 years for sure. But at some point you start to reach the limits of human (even enchanced) potential. Think of the 4-minute mile. It took forever to break it, and although the times have decreased quite a bit... aint nobody running a 3-minute mile.
 
it will happen someday. 900 has yet to fall and i really don't think it will fall this year in any sanctioned meet. 1000 will probably be broke by somebody no one's even heard of.
 
JACKEDASS said:
I think the filthy fat bastard will do it first. Good luck Mule...savage


Savage....How did you find your way over here, and who in there right mind gave you karma
 
louden_swain said:
Of course its possible!!!

In the early 1980s the world record was 661.

Athletes are bigger and stronger.
But kaz did it flat back, paused it on his chest for three seconds, and no bench shirt. Plus he was doinf that weight for reps in the gym. Also that was before his strength prime. He tore his pec in the bar bend in wsm. If he didn't he woul have benched 800 raw imo. Nobody is stronger today than kaz was.
 
k1401 said:
Mule what happened to the Militia site?


Christ is that fukker down again, it was up two days ago,

the guy who takes care has had a shitload of problems, his computer burned up not to long ago he was in europe for awhile, on thing after another
 
But kaz did it flat back, paused it on his chest for three seconds, and no bench shirt. Plus he was doinf that weight for reps in the gym. Also that was before his strength prime. He tore his pec in the bar bend in wsm. If he didn't he woul have benched 800 raw imo. Nobody is stronger today than kaz was.


Could have, Should have, would have.......................BUT HE DIDN'T !!!!

He also never repped 661# and best I remember he was wearing a single poly!
 
anything's possible but it wont happen. Just too damn much.

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MULE1 said:



Savage....How did you find your way over here, and who in there right mind gave you karma

The Hotttt Chick did :fro: I'm feeling pretty good about myself after that man.......pretty f'n' good:kaioken:
 
I don't think it would happen anytime soon. Today's athletes are trained well and have good nutrition. But then again, maybe some new routine will be devloped or something like that. :)
 
dood said:

But kaz did it flat back, paused it on his chest for three seconds, and no bench shirt. Plus he was doinf that weight for reps in the gym. Also that was before his strength prime. He tore his pec in the bar bend in wsm. If he didn't he woul have benched 800 raw imo. Nobody is stronger today than kaz was.


bla bla bla.... but still props to kaz for one of many great lifters.
 
1,000 will fall and not that far off. Less than 5 yrs ago 800 was not going to fall, now 900 is almost a reality if Mendelson wants it to be. The better training gets and our diets get the faster these weights will start to fall.

Later....

BIGJGrimm
 
dood said:

But kaz did it flat back, paused it on his chest for three seconds, and no bench shirt. Plus he was doinf that weight for reps in the gym. Also that was before his strength prime. He tore his pec in the bar bend in wsm. If he didn't he woul have benched 800 raw imo. Nobody is stronger today than kaz was.

Kaz also used zero leg drive.

Do you know anything about his old training? I have been trying to find it for a long time and I have have found nothing.
 
Yarg! said:
Wouldnt 1000lbs just obliterate your wrists?

In theory you can develop your wrists in proportion to your bench but I am sure that becomes harder and harder with the impossible weights.
 
Yarg! said:
Wouldnt 1000lbs just obliterate your wrists?

I don't know for sure... but the reality is that those are very, very small bones.

Metacarpals or elbow joint would be the places to fail, if a fail occurred with 1000.

I think lifters are getting closer to the limits of their tendons, joints, and small bones. So, maybe some one will have the pure strenght to lift a grand... but to actually perform the lift is a different story.

Still... doesn't seem totally impossible
 
Are we all forgetting the 1000+lb bench of Jimmy 'I'm full of bull' Pellechia?? ;)

Seriously though........I can see it happening. The equipment is getting here so we just need a dedicated big man to wear it.
 
I'll let you know in 3-4 yrs. if I'm still alive. and if i do it power machine I'm coming gonna for you. Fat Guys double body weight blah blah blah
 
MULE1 said:
I'll let you know in 3-4 yrs. if I'm still alive. and if i do it power machine I'm coming gonna for you. Fat Guys double body weight blah blah blah

You are too much! Heck, I'm still trying to get double bodyweight. And soon, I'll be one of the fat guys. Can we can talk coefficients for the time being? :lmao:
 
Imnotdutch said:
Are we all forgetting the 1000+lb bench of Jimmy 'I'm full of bull' Pellechia?? ;)

Seriously though........I can see it happening. The equipment is getting here so we just need a dedicated big man to wear it.

I just did a search on him. If any of this lifts are real I will eat this computer.
 
BigWh1tey said:
bill crawford does lockouts with 1000+ lbs. His wrists have never exploded.

Speaking of bill what is he up to now in the full range press? His 785 was a while ago wasn’t it?
 
bill is getting ready for a cash meet. right now his numbers are being kept under wraps. he is a strong mother fucker
 
One name.. Shawn lattimer!

At 26yrs old and just bench pressed 810 like it was 225 by the time he turns 28 look for him to be attempting 900 regularly and nailing it.

dont bout out big Mike either, wait for him to come off his break and you'll see him nailing high 800-900 numbers too!


Kc
 
dragon14 said:
I think it is possible... but not as easy as some might think. The weight has gone up a lot in last 20 years for sure. But at some point you start to reach the limits of human (even enchanced) potential. Think of the 4-minute mile. It took forever to break it, and although the times have decreased quite a bit... aint nobody running a 3-minute mile.
Yup. That's what I was thinking. There is a limit. Just because it's rapidly increasing doesn't mean that's going to continue.
 
The thing about Mendelson, that guy is ripped. I always wondered why he wouldn't get up to like 350-370 and be a little less lean. What did he weigh when he hit 875, like 320?


Tiervexx, Kaz's old routine was a 10 week cycle. Core lifts started high rep and cycled down. Other lifts remained high rep throughout. Squat AND dead were trained twice a week, one right after the other. He did speed deads and speed squats. Volume was pretty high. 6 days/week for 2 hours with little rest between sets.
 
slobberknocker said:
The thing about Mendelson, that guy is ripped. I always wondered why he wouldn't get up to like 350-370 and be a little less lean. What did he weigh when he hit 875, like 320?


Tiervexx, Kaz's old routine was a 10 week cycle. Core lifts started high rep and cycled down. Other lifts remained high rep throughout. Squat AND dead were trained twice a week, one right after the other. He did speed deads and speed squats. Volume was pretty high. 6 days/week for 2 hours with little rest between sets.

Scott was 308 when he hit 875.

I have not seen anything about bill's old squat routines thank you. I remember seeing a training article about bench training. He also worked that twice a week, but only one workout was heavy. He did do a decent amount of volume on that but not anywhere near what many pro BBs where doing at that time.
 
With all the supportive gear giving benchers 160+ pounds over thier raw bench, and the fact that the gear will probabally get stronger it wouldnt surprise me at all. Id like to see a 1000lb raw bench though. Not sure that will ever happen.
 
1000 is just around the corner

People,
having personal contact with some of the absolute strongest men in the world, I can assure you 1000 will go sooner than you may like to think.

I can't say who, yet, but so far in training, the deadlift record has already been passed!!!!!!!!!

Do I hate it? Yes and No.

A 1000lb bench sure makes a 1000lb squat not seem so impressive, but on the otherhand, if they are using Karin's shirt then I'm happy as a clam!

I do see a 1200lb squat soon also.:mix:
 
Re: 1000 is just around the corner

Doug K said:
People,
having personal contact with some of the absolute strongest men in the world, I can assure you 1000 will go sooner than you may like to think.

I can't say who, yet, but so far in training, the deadlift record has already been passed!!!!!!!!!

Do I hate it? Yes and No.

A 1000lb bench sure makes a 1000lb squat not seem so impressive, but on the otherhand, if they are using Karin's shirt then I'm happy as a clam!

I do see a 1200lb squat soon also.:mix:

Wicked!!!!!!
 
WalkingBeast said:
With all the supportive gear giving benchers 160+ pounds over thier raw bench, and the fact that the gear will probabally get stronger it wouldnt surprise me at all. Id like to see a 1000lb raw bench though. Not sure that will ever happen.


I doubt anyone out there is getting 160 lbs from their shirt.
 
wow, maybe i could bench 600 if i started training with one; i hit 440 raw
 
I think that JM Blakely said that if you are not getting at least 100lbs out of a denim you are doing something wrong.
 
Yeah, I have done 800 and 810. Thanks!

I think within 2 years 1000 will fall. There are guys out there benching mid-700's raw. I can get over 200 out of my shirt, and I think there is more there if I learn to find it.
 
XtremePowerLifter2000 said:
Shawn given your age you are in the lead right now for the fall of 1000.


Kc

I don't know about that. I'm not sure how far I can really go. I think I can physically go to 900, but beyond that, who knows?

Remember, I'm natural. I really don't think I can gain a whole lot more strength.
 
We will have a few guys over 900 before too long. I'm guessing Mendelson will come back in 2004 to go 900+. Guys like Lattimer, Mule and Brandenburg have the body types to handle that load too. Once Clay masters that new shirt he'll be right in the thick of things.
 
Lat said:


I don't know about that. I'm not sure how far I can really go. I think I can physically go to 900, but beyond that, who knows?

Remember, I'm natural. I really don't think I can gain a whole lot more strength.

an 810 bench and natural?? holy shit dude. Havent you ever wondered "what if?" as far as the high strength supps? Any plans to maybe take a shot at the USAPL records wearing something like the fury? Not sure what the Mens record is for your weight class but it sure seems like you'd have a shot at it if you are truly drug free.

just curious, what do your other lifts look like? I know you're a specialist

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BodybuildingUniverse said:


an 810 bench and natural?? holy shit dude. Havent you ever wondered "what if?" as far as the high strength supps? Any plans to maybe take a shot at the USAPL records wearing something like the fury? Not sure what the Mens record is for your weight class but it sure seems like you'd have a shot at it if you are truly drug free.

just curious, what do your other lifts look like? I know you're a specialist

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I am natural, but I really don't like the USAPL. Kinda snobby, and their claim of drug free is crap--they have just as many guys on the stuff as anywhere.

I have wondered what if, but then my bench will jump another 20 pounds and I think, hell, I don't need any help.

My best raw deadlift is 605, and my best raw squat is 590. I didn't squat for about 5 years, and I have only been back at it on and off for 2 years now. I'm not real serious about either lift, so I am sure if I put some effort into it I could be into the 700's raw. But I think that would hurt my bench, so why bother??
 
Lat said:



I am natural, but I really don't like the USAPL. Kinda snobby, and their claim of drug free is crap--they have just as many guys on the stuff as anywhere.

I have wondered what if, but then my bench will jump another 20 pounds and I think, hell, I don't need any help.

i agree. there's no way all those lifter "can" be drug-free. i've wondered about it myself from time to time but never gone past it because its not worth it!! rather make my mark "drug-free". tb
 
Lat said:
Yeah, I have done 800 and 810. Thanks!

I think within 2 years 1000 will fall. There are guys out there benching mid-700's raw. I can get over 200 out of my shirt, and I think there is more there if I learn to find it.

UnFUCKING believable!! Your a HUGE inspiration!!!!!!! Awesome work!
 
You cannot ignore history. Someone will bench over 1000 someday. Through history we have become stronger and bigger and science continues to advance.
 
Hmnn

eurorides said:
what do you think the max natural bench is/can be?

I would think it'd depend even more on your genetics than a drug enhanced bodybuilder. Some are built much bigger and stronger than are others.

But I would think within the next 10 years we'll have a steriod that is capable of counteracting at least some of the more serious sides, and the amount of gear a person can take will increase, thus increasing all these lifts. It only takes a dedicated scientist and someone willing to train hard.
 
been done by Scot Mendelson...

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Quoting Nate from another board:****************************************************
Q: Scot, what is the most you have bench pressed?
A:(without a moments pause) 1005.

discussing weight and such, he mentioned that adding 15lbs of bodyweight equated to about 130 lbs on his bench.

so if he competed and did 875, later added 15lbs not concerned with weight, he got 1005.
****************************************************

We got to meet him at the FIT Expo in Pasadena this past February. He held a bench seminar in a very intimate setting...took a lot of notes!

Here we are with him after the seminar...
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And here is a t-shirt I bought from the expo...
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It will be done.
Id like to see some serious deadlift numbers move up though. The record for this lift has been stuck for ages.
It will be a sad day when the WR for bench surpasses the WR Deadlift, and starts getting close to the squat record :S
 
Nonerz said:
been done by Scot Mendelson...

****************************************************
Quoting Nate from another board:****************************************************
Q: Scot, what is the most you have bench pressed?
A:(without a moments pause) 1005.

discussing weight and such, he mentioned that adding 15lbs of bodyweight equated to about 130 lbs on his bench.

so if he competed and did 875, later added 15lbs not concerned with weight, he got 1005.
****************************************************

We got to meet him at the FIT Expo in Pasadena this past February. He held a bench seminar in a very intimate setting...took a lot of notes!

Here we are with him after the seminar...
post-4-1077518457.jpg


And here is a t-shirt I bought from the expo...
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can we see those notes? ;)
 
cut and paste....

of course nani had to wear her bad very bad shirt
bad...very bad!

I sat there taking notes! I can't rely on my memory for much so here are a few things I got out of the seminar:

*Never think about the weight you're lifting. It's a DONE DEAL!

"I'm out there and I'm gonna kill ya" -- regarding his frame of mind during a meet.

Benching w/equipment - imaginary bubble...find the peak of the bubble and stay in it.

He works rear delts every workout...suggested Forza rear delt machine (1 armed)

Reccomends Hammer Curls (builds forearm strength)

He always trains 80-100%

Talked about the mind to muscle link

Does A LOT of stretching...stretches throughout the day

Takes Body Quick - makes your neurons fire faster (I bought a bottle to try ($40 at the show)...just read an article about this stuff in Powerlifting USA...sounds very interesting)

Doesn't believe in bands & chains for bench because joints are smaller...thinks they are great for squat/dl work.

Does lots of close grip bar work and cable extensions

Does 2 board presses only...said that the shirt takes care of the 1 board range.

Said that many times body builders are like "Ferrari's with no motors" -- note: one of his teammates is a body builder :)

Train your nervous system to handle heavey weights

Reccomends MSM, glutamine (didn't write down all the stuff...but kept it pretty basic)

"I'm here for performance"
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An overall great guy...you can tell he loves his family. He made several references to his wife and how she is a very important part of his team. "It's not right if she's not there." He's a no frills kinda guy! They are opening a gym in LA in a few weeks...WOO-HOO!!! :)
 
Very interesting.

So his idea of a good bench workout is to work up to a few lifts that are very close to max (any idea how much volume he does?)

work tricepts with close grips and extensions.

always do some rear delt work.

Stretch a lot. I used to stretch all the time but I guess I should start again.
 
with todays amazing science i wouldnt be surprised 1200 pounds in the next 10 years.
 
900 has already fallen, and the way modern athletes are progressing it will be only a matter of time before we see someone hit a grand....too bad im only half way there.
 
Yes, Scot Mendelson would have hit 1000 this year, but his shirt blew open like a granade into bits and pieces with 969. He came back a few minutes later and missed the lockout by an inch in a meet in March, 2 weeks after the Arnold. The bench shirts aren't made strong enough to handle that heavy of a weight, but they are working to modify their designs to help him. He will hit 1000 next year. I, along with several Powerlifting USA staff, have seen him easily bench 965 in training.
 
bodybuildingislife1 said:
well i think it will be done eventually...people are getting better and better and so are the drugs....although i have seen a 1000 pound hack squat....


Barbell hack squat? Im at around 600, sounds like I need to catch up!!
 
femlifter said:
Yes, Scot Mendelson would have hit 1000 this year, but his shirt blew open like a granade into bits and pieces with 969. He came back a few minutes later and missed the lockout by an inch in a meet in March, 2 weeks after the Arnold. The bench shirts aren't made strong enough to handle that heavy of a weight, but they are working to modify their designs to help him. He will hit 1000 next year. I, along with several Powerlifting USA staff, have seen him easily bench 965 in training.


Respectable lift, no doubt. But I still have more respect for a raw bench without extreme supportive gear to make the lift. When supportive gear is adding 300lbs to your bench, I wouldnt consider the feat too legit anymore. It seems the supportive gear has to be built stronger so that the lift can be done. Id much rather see how much someone can raw bench, pause or not. Sure it takes some work to get the most out of the supportive gear, but it takes a shitload more work to add 300lbs to your bench without the gear.
 
WalkingBeast said:
Respectable lift, no doubt. But I still have more respect for a raw bench without extreme supportive gear to make the lift. When supportive gear is adding 300lbs to your bench, I wouldnt consider the feat too legit anymore. It seems the supportive gear has to be built stronger so that the lift can be done. Id much rather see how much someone can raw bench, pause or not. Sure it takes some work to get the most out of the supportive gear, but it takes a shitload more work to add 300lbs to your bench without the gear.

Not to dis you...but whatever!

Respectable lift? That's an understatement.
Legit? Not sure if you understand the powerlifting world at all. He's a powerlifter...powerlifters use supportive gear. It's just like any other sport - you use the equipment necessary for optimal performance. His raw bench is no joke either...see for yourself!

Click on: APF Northern California Open 713 Raw Bench
Scot Mendelson - Video Gallery

***that was his opener...and it FLEW up!***

Lots of good vids here...I particularly like how his wife smacks the shit out of him before he lifts! ;)

Sorry if I came off a bit abrasive, but since I've gotten into the sport, I've learned soooo much and realize that your equipment is just one piece of the puzzle...the work is still done in the gym!
 
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anything is possible I dont think humans are anywhere near our potential, we just keep getting bigger stronger faster smarter. it will happen. but whoever does it is gunna be one big fuck
 
Nonerz said:
Not to dis you...but whatever!

Respectable lift? That's an understatement.
Legit? Not sure if you understand the powerlifting world at all. He's a powerlifter...powerlifters use supportive gear. It's just like any other sport - you use the equipment necessary for optimal performance. His raw bench is no joke either...see for yourself!

Click on: APF Northern California Open 713 Raw Bench
Scot Mendelson - Video Gallery

***that was his opener...and it FLEW up!***

Lots of good vids here...I particularly like how his wife smacks the shit out of him before he lifts! ;)

Sorry if I came off a bit abrasive, but since I've gotten into the sport, I've learned soooo much and realize that your equipment is just one piece of the puzzle...the work is still done in the gym!

No doubt the work in the gym is done. Not questioning that part. I just dont consider the lift a true 1000lb lift when extreme supportive gear is used, whether its part of the sport or not. 713 is still fucking respectable!! But Ill consider the lift true when I see 1000lbs lifted without supportive gear. Thats like saying if I bench 400lbs I can claim a 600-700lb bench. Not legit in my mind. Im looking for real world strength that I could use in a situation. Im not going to be wearing a bench shirt 24/7. Not to take away from all the dedication involved and if its legit in the sport then why wouldnt a competitor use every advantage available? I do think its getting a little insane though with the supportive gear. I think they should take it down to raw competition and see what happens. Its gone way beyond preventing injury and more into enhancing the lifts by an insane amount. JMO
 
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