1-T Ethergel/Boldione cycle: Results

[pa1ad]

Progesterone/Follistatin levels:

Here's some poor logic for you guys:

IN WOMEN:

Progesterone blood levels increase during pregnancy

Follistatin levels increase during pregnancy

Progesterone blood level increases MAY CAUSE increases in follistatin

AND IF ALL THAT IS TRUE (which it most likely is not):

Trenbolone/Nandrolone are "progestagenic compounds"

Trenbolone/Nandrolone tickle the PR

Trenbolone/Nandrolone MAY CAUSE increases in Follistatin!

And this, Ladies and Gents, is the reason why we like to use INDUCTION while dealing with science, and not so much DEDUCTION. Why? Because of VALIDITY. All my "may cause" conjecture doesn't mean shit unless it's proven.

Anyone here think there's any credence to this wild, paralogical syllogismic of mine?

I am not sure of the point you are trying to make here, but if you are poking fun at the horrible skills of some internet guys when it comes to deductive reasoning then I am with you. One thing about being educated/trained in science is that you learn to reason things out very efficiently and carefully.

 

[Fortes]

Pat, you know you want to hire me on to your staff. You just can't resist a mind so capable and convincing as mine.

Here, I'll strike a deal with you.

I'll let you give me a lifetime's supply of a new improved 1-AD which doesn't make your hair fall out, and then I'LL LET YOU pay for my B.A. at the university of MY CHOICE. ONCE I get my B.A. (In Philosophy) I'LL LET YOU then pay for my LAW SCHOOL, again from the school of my choice.

Maybe I'll feel merciful enough to be the ErgoPharm Staff Legal Advisor / Lawyer and LET you pay me a base salary of $300,000.00/year.

You know you want to . . .

Just kidding. I just wish I could be a Pro Football Player or a Pro Wrestler, instead of having to deal with all these money issues that college throws in my face. Maybe I'll let you provide me the chemical implements with which I could pursue a career in either field. Kidding, again.

 

[Fortes]

Seriously, though

Think of what a marketing force I could be!

Pat, you could make me into the ErgoKiller, Ergopharm's very own Pro Wrestling Mascot! I'm about 6', 245 lbs. and maybe 15-20% bodyfat right now, but I'm young enough to where I am confident I can gain 20 lbs. of muslce per year naturally. Give me some 1-AD and 4-AD stacked, 4 week on 4 week of cycles back to back . . . WHOA MOMMA! I could hit 300 lbs. and 10% bodyfat in 2-3 years time with that mix. My heart would probably explode from having to pump blood through more muscle then it was ever meant to think it could have, but hey, that's the price of glory, right?

Think about that! I could slam people and hold up a bottle of 1-AD after every match and yell OH YEAH! 1-AD would sell like crazy, I'm convinced. We just need to get rid of my bitch tits first.

I'm kidding again.

 

[1fast400]

I'm sure your parents are proud

 

[pa1ad]

Re: Seriously, though

Think of what a marketing force I could be!

Pat, you could make me into the ErgoKiller, Ergopharm's very own Pro Wrestling Mascot! I'm about 6', 245 lbs. and maybe 15-20% bodyfat right now, but I'm young enough to where I am confident I can gain 20 lbs. of muslce per year naturally. Give me some 1-AD and 4-AD stacked, 4 week on 4 week of cycles back to back . . . WHOA MOMMA! I could hit 300 lbs. and 10% bodyfat in 2-3 years time with that mix. My heart would probably explode from having to pump blood through more muscle then it was ever meant to think it could have, but hey, that's the price of glory, right?

Think about that! I could slam people and hold up a bottle of 1-AD after every match and yell OH YEAH! 1-AD would sell like crazy, I'm convinced. We just need to get rid of my bitch tits first.

I'm kidding again.

Did your mother drop you on your head when you were a baby or what?

 

[MIKERAZ]

Many did not "make the cut" for reasons totally unrelated to whether they were good anabolics or not. And the research done back then was very sound, with the same techniques used today to assay anabolic steroids. You simply do not know the facts bro. I am sorry, but you are grasping at straws just to win this argument. Don't try to win, try to LEARN

1-test was synthesized by the researchers. not isolated. Its natural occurence is something unrelated to its development as an anabolic.

On another thread PA explained to me how pharm companies determine potency ,take a AAS like 17a-4ad or methyl1-test The reason it was never released was because it had a horrible index meaning it isnt potent enough to be sold on the market , potency depends on the anabolic/androgenic index

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

On another thread PA explained to me how pharm companies determine potency ,take a AAS like 17a-4ad or methyl1-test The reason it was never released was because it had a horrible index meaning it isnt potent enough to be sold on the market , potency depends on the anabolic/androgenic index

Mikeraz,

Would you please slap yourself for me. Or ask someone close to you. I can't do it from here, and you REALLY need it!

- Bill

 

[pa1ad]

On another thread PA explained to me how pharm companies determine potency ,take a AAS like 17a-4ad or methyl1-test The reason it was never released was because it had a horrible index meaning it isnt potent enough to be sold on the market , potency depends on the anabolic/androgenic index

You still don't fucking get it. I explained it clearly. I have to conclude that you are just an idiot. I am sorry.

Do you know what ABSOLUTE values mean?

Do you know what a RATIO is?

Do you know what ANABOLIC and ANDROGENIC mean?

Jesus fucking christ dude, its not rocket science.

 

[MIKERAZ]

I was under the impression androgenic and anabolic are the same thing. Animal stated if somethigns very anabolic its automatically very androgenic like 1-test he says also is 7 times as androgenic

absolute value means its value and thats determined by the index

 

[pa1ad]

I was under the impression androgenic and anabolic are the same thing. Animal stated if somethigns very anabolic its automatically very androgenic like 1-test he says also is 7 times as androgenic

absolute value means its value and thats determined by the index

Well animal said..... Well animal said.........


anabolic means the ability of a compound to produce hypertrophy of skeletal muscle

androgenic means ability of a compound to increase weights of androgen responsive organs (in classical assay this is prostate and seminal vesicles)

The ratio of the first to the second determines its therapeutic index and its suitablity to use in clinical medicine - where the goal is as much differentiation between the two as possible.

So for methyl 4-AD, even though it assayed out pretty decent as far as anabolic potency goes, it had a bad index because it was also very androgenic.

Example of a product with a very good index is oxandrolone (anavar). This product is quite anabolic, while at the same time possessing very little androgenic activity.

this is BASIC ANABOLIC STEROID SCIENCE!! You should not even be discussing the subject unless you understand these concepts

Please do not talk to animal, he is a treasure trove of misinformation