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11 year old boy arested for drawing stick figures
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wow that is very messed up, therapist must feel like a tool.... so he has ADD in other words cant concentrate and she makes him draw stick figures, WTF that concentrates him on the drawing not school!
DannoMight
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its all about the bennies$$$$
inkspot
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Did you know I was getting laid off this morning?
I have to agree with the first poster in the comments section of this article. The stick figures were not the problem, it was the gun and threat. I really don't care if a kid has ADD or not. He knows right from wrong and he was wrong. If he doesn't then he shouldn't be with the general population. The schools are way to lax as it is.
Did you know I was getting laid off this morning?
I have to agree with the first poster in the comments section of this article. The stick figures were not the problem, it was the gun and threat. I really don't care if a kid has ADD or not. He knows right from wrong and he was wrong. If he doesn't then he shouldn't be with the general population. The schools are way to lax as it is.
I live in the area where this took place. And the schools there are NOT lax by any means. If anything the schools are taking on way to much responsibility that should belong to the parent.
And Arvada is insane with how seriously they treat smaller incidences. We are talking about an 11 yr old child that was handcuffed and taken in a police car. For making a picture. That he was throwing away. The kid didn't even act aggressively. In other parts of the Denver Metro this kid would have gotten a ticket and a court date.
I have boys around this age. Thank goodness I don't live in the Arvada city limits where the cops have nothing better to do than neutralize the high risk threat if a 5th grader with a piece of paper and a pencil.
uamaverick
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The little boy made a PERSONAL drawing to alleviate stress and was going to throw it away, it's not like he mailed it in to the teachers house with a dead cat for fuck's sake
DannoMight
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they're paving the way for another mcveigh
jackangel
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I have to agree with the first poster in the comments section of this article. The stick figures were not the problem, it was the gun and threat. I really don't care if a kid has ADD or not. He knows right from wrong and he was wrong. If he doesn't then he shouldn't be with the general population. The schools are way to lax as it is.
nah, arresting him was wrong. you're wrong.
these are private thoughts, expressed on a piece of paper. he's already in treatment, which may very well be a good idea.
it's ok to be alarmed or disturbed by his drawing. it's ok to notify his parents, specialists, counselors, therapists, etc.
it's not ok to arrest him, handcuffs and all, charge him with a misdemeanor, and put his ass in jail.
if you can't recognize that as nonsense, then there's probably no limit to what you'll allow.
this is the most absurd thing i've heard about in a while, without any justification that i can see. i can't imagine that it will help anything, and there's no positive outcome that wouldn't be possible without such overreaction.
Lol, sheesh, no kidding.
stfu jack
But once the school found out about it they're pretty much fvcked. If they don't do something and that kid does end up killing people, everyone will want to know why nothing was done.
speaking of stick figures
A mod altered it, I had it right last night when I wrote it out on ambien.
bakemeacookie
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The school was aware that the boy was in treatment, determined he was not a threat
It's NOT up to school admins to determine who is a threat and who isn't. Were they able to recognize the columbine kids as threats? If he wasn't a threat, then who called the cops?
Perhaps the title should be changed to :
"11 year old arrested for drawing stick figures of shooting teachers with a gun". To be a little more accurate.
You're a cop, you arrive. What do you do? Say "bad boy" and walk away? Then later he brings a gun, and now eveyrone sues the cops? YOU want to deal with a pissed off teacher's union cuz you didn't haul away a mentally disturbed student who draws pictures of shooting teachers? You want to lose your job?
btw: 11 y/o's DO shoot people:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,497986,00.html
I take it no one here works in a school or is a cop. I bet if the kid was drawing a drawing of shooting YOUR 11 y/o daughter, you'd be demanding cops haul him away. I love how people are so biased on these issues. It's so cute.
I also love how these articles try to influence your thinking.
btw: Wanna be around losers and tomorrow's burger flippers, go to a public school.
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It's NOT up to school admins to determine who is a threat and who isn't. Were they able to recognize the columbine kids as threats? If he wasn't a threat, then who called the cops?
Perhaps the title should be changed to :
"11 year old arrested for drawing stick figures of shooting teachers with a gun". To be a little more accurate.
You're a cop, you arrive. What do you do? Say "bad boy" and walk away? Then later he brings a gun, and now eveyrone sues the cops? YOU want to deal with a pissed off teacher's union cuz you didn't haul away a mentally disturbed student who draws pictures of shooting teachers? You want to lose your job?
btw: 11 y/o's DO shoot people:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,497986,00.html
I take it no one here works in a school or is a cop. I bet if the kid was drawing a drawing of shooting YOUR 11 y/o daughter, you'd be demanding cops haul him away. I love how people are so biased on these issues. It's so cute.
I also love how these articles try to influence your thinking.
btw: Wanna be around losers and tomorrow's burger flippers, go to a public school.
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jnevin
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It was probably an ad link from the site where you found your wife.
I Would I want him aitting next to my child in school? OF COURSE NOT
If I were the teacher or a classmates parent would I feel it was justified? Probably
But as an objective person outsideof the situation it seems the boy did not commit an actual CRIME therefore should not be arrested, hell if you want you can expell the kid but not to cuff him and take him to jail
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inkspot
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It’s not often I agree with you Razor, just saying.
I work in the second largest school district in California; 2,000 kids a month walk through my doors. I work in a school that has 2-3 lock downs a year. This is not an “inner” city school. It’s hard to believe an 11 year old could be threatening. They are still babies, right? I’m remembering a former student who is in prison for life at 13. Yes they do commit crimes and it does start somewhere.
It’s very easy to point fingers when in reality 80% of parents are clueless to how a school runs or even funded. Schools were never designed to parent children. The somewhere starts at home.
V, I love my job, I love the kids. It breaks my heart to see the decline of civilization starting with the children. Innocence lost..
I work in the second largest school district in California; 2,000 kids a month walk through my doors. I work in a school that has 2-3 lock downs a year. This is not an “inner” city school. It’s hard to believe an 11 year old could be threatening. They are still babies, right? I’m remembering a former student who is in prison for life at 13. Yes they do commit crimes and it does start somewhere.
It’s very easy to point fingers when in reality 80% of parents are clueless to how a school runs or even funded. Schools were never designed to parent children. The somewhere starts at home.
V, I love my job, I love the kids. It breaks my heart to see the decline of civilization starting with the children. Innocence lost..
bakemeacookie
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Cops don't expel kids.
Cops have rules & procedures. Just like you have rules at work.
If a cop sees a threat, under school rules (written by admins & teachers btw) they have NO CHOICE but to take the boy away so A PROFESSIONAL can decide if he's a threat or not. Cops don't write their own laws.
Nor are they trained in evaluating troubled children.
EVERYTHING IS ABOUT LIABILITY. Besides, how does anyone know the cops didn't take him to go see some psychologists who are trained with cops? Cops can't decide if he's dangerous or not, a psychologist trained in children can decide later on whether the kid is okay enough to go back to class. This all has to be documented before he's let back into school.
Remember: Everything is about LIABILITY.
There are rules that cops/admins/teachers have to abide by. No exceptions. If cops make up their own rules and something happens - guess who'll be the first one here creating a thread titled:
"Cops ignore kid who drew pictures of killing his teacher. Kills teacher and 3 classmates next day".
Then you got 50 replies saying cops dropped the ball, they're losers. Then you got a $30M wrongful death lawsuit against the city. No one sues a city or school board for being extra careful and abiding by rules. That's all they care about.
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RADAR
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Man! I'm glad this wasn't the case when i was 11 yrs old, i used to draw tanks blowing up building ,bombs People body parts going everywhere and it was no stick figure drawing shit either,I'm glad that was unheard of back in my time.
I guess everyone was happy that WW2 had ended, and had better things to worry about!
I guess everyone was happy that WW2 had ended, and had better things to worry about!
Will the cops be liable for the years of additional therapy this kid is gonna need after his ordeal?
I don't doubt that you do care for the kids. I have, in past years, volunteered for my children's school district, been on policy writing councils, ect. I have a lot of respect for the teachers and administration. Its not them I blame.
I understand that something had to be done from the schools stand point, but the Arvada PD are notorious for thier overreaction. The mother said she would drive the child to
the police station, what was up with the handcuffs? And yea kids this age do commit crimes, but why he drew the pic was explained. He was told to do so by his therapist.
As far as liability goes, like Cookie keeps saying, any other city in the Denver Metro would have given the kid a ticket and a court date, not a handcuffed trip to the police station. And that, to me is the issue. The handcuffs.
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