lol@libs

[layinback]

oh and by the way you're kinda sexy when you're mad and inferring i'm a psychopath. KILL THE DRUGGIES RAAAAAAAR FUCK THE LIBERALS ROAAAAAAAAAAAAAWR! LAYINBACKS NOT OK AND HE'S A SOCIOPATH GRUNT SNORT UGH!

 

[puddlemonkey]

lol@your response

I'm in the middle of my NCAA 11 Dynasty and I wanna play a couple more games before bed. I'll deal with you tomorrow after work sometime.

This should give you some time to edit before I throw you under the bus again

 

[layinback]

lol@your response

I'm in the middle of my NCAA 11 Dynasty and I wanna play a couple more games before bed. I'll deal with you tomorrow after work sometime.

This should give you some time to edit before I throw you under the bus again

lol i put you in check @ post #18. post # 60 was game.

i got K from smart peeps on 18 and 60 who understand formal argument \ logic

you can't argue bro! that's ok, you don't need to. by your own addmission
you play it safe in life. i could prolly learn a thing or two from you. i'm
always out there, leading with the chin and quite honestly i'm a little to
old and a little to tired to keep it going much further .

 

[miplank]

your premise suggest that we throw the baby out with the bathwater.
dood all life is precious. if we follow your philosophy we would kill
the debilitated elderly and mentally retarded . they're a burden on society
and they're not going to get better.

Okay...If all life is so precious why are you okay with the idea of handing out free syringes and crack pipes? These people are slowly killing themselves. Kinda seems foolish to argue with puddles why free crack pipes is a good thing and then post how all life is precious.

 

[layinback]

Okay...If all life is so precious why are you okay with the idea of handing out free syringes and crack pipes? These people are slowly killing themselves. Kinda seems foolish to argue with puddles why free crack pipes is a good thing and then post how all life is precious.

bro, if we hand out free crack pipes syringes etc... the dopers aint gonna
increase or decrease their usage. if you legalize drugs, peeps that don't
do drugs aint gonna start. drug prohibition doesn't deter drug use. peeps
that are gonna do drugs are gonna do them anyway. the idea is damage
control and if we can move into a direction of less punitive reaction and
more of a humane response. helping these people to avoid more damage
while they do what there gonna do anyway is the way i interpret. if we
don't have such programs they're not gonna wake up and say," wow i'm
killing myself and i better stop." i liken it to methadone. methadone
keeps junkies from illegal activities, gives them a pre measured dose
so OD's are minimized and the risk of needle related disease is minimized

i don't see this as enabling or condoning self destructive behavior. i do
see how you and others could view it like that. it's completely
understandable. i'm coming from the persective of an ex doper whos
seen every side of the coin.

 

[-SD-]

bro, if we hand out free crack pipes syringes etc... the dopers aint gonna
increase or decrease their usage. if you legalize drugs, peeps that don't
do drugs aint gonna start. drug prohibition doesn't deter drug use. peeps
that are gonna do drugs are gonna do them anyway. the idea is damage
control and if we can move into a direction of less punitive reaction and
more of a humane response. helping these people to avoid more damage
while they do what there gonna do anyway is the way i interpret. if we
don't have such programs they're not gonna wake up and say," wow i'm
killing myself and i better stop." i liken it to methadone. methadone
keeps junkies from illegal activities, gives them a pre measured dose
so OD's are minimized and the risk of needle related disease is minimized

i don't see this as enabling or condoning self destructive behavior. i do
see how you and others could view it like that. it's completely
understandable. i'm coming from the persective of an ex doper whos
seen every side of the coin.

If you understand the true nature of addiction you understand addicts are not going to curb their use because of risks associated with use such as dirty needles and crack pipes that cut mouths.
The differing philosophies are the conflict involved with this.

Viewpoint 1. Believes making drug use as safe as possible by trying to eliminate the secondary risks is a worthwhile endeavor because addicts will use no matter what. So may as well make the experience strictly about the drug and not the associated risks. Believes by and large addicts cant stop using and will risk their lives in other ways to get high.

Viewpoint 2. Believes assisting drug users to get high in a safe manner or in a safe environment enables the users to do drugs above beyond what they already were currently doing and legitimizes the drug use itself. Believes by and large addicts can stop using so we shouldnt help them get high or make it easier/safer for them to get high.

 

[miplank]

bro, if we hand out free crack pipes syringes etc... the dopers aint gonna
increase or decrease their usage. if you legalize drugs, peeps that don't
do drugs aint gonna start. drug prohibition doesn't deter drug use. peeps
that are gonna do drugs are gonna do them anyway. the idea is damage
control and if we can move into a direction of less punitive reaction and
more of a humane response. helping these people to avoid more damage
while they do what there gonna do anyway is the way i interpret. if we
don't have such programs they're not gonna wake up and say," wow i'm
killing myself and i better stop." i liken it to methadone. methadone
keeps junkies from illegal activities, gives them a pre measured dose
so OD's are minimized and the risk of needle related disease is minimized
They may not increase their usage, but they are still killing themselves and will most likely eventually kill them self due to use. I understand your damage control point of view, but you said all life is precious or something like that. Do you only mean the lives that aren't already addicted to hardcore drugs? Wouldn't the money be better spent to curing their addictions instead of enabling them?


i don't see this as enabling or condoning self destructive behavior. i do
see how you and others could view it like that. it's completely
understandable. i'm coming from the persective of an ex doper whos
seen every side of the coin.
okay, I see you made your enabling point there, oopsie. But as a recovered addict wouldn't you understand it more that the need is to help the people quit drugs rather than continue use in a safer environment? Say one of your sons (God forbid) in the future gets addicted to crack or heroine or something. Would you as a father rather them use clean needles and new pipes or would you rather them get the help they need to actually quit?

Just playing devils advocate here...I know i'm not going to change your opinion on this matter, and you most likely won't change mine but I do see your side of things I just so happen to think my viewpoint is better

 

[puddlemonkey]

lol i put you in check @ post #18. post # 60 was game.

i got K from smart peeps on 18 and 60 who understand formal argument \ logic

you can't argue bro! that's ok, you don't need to. by your own addmission
you play it safe in life. i could prolly learn a thing or two from you. i'm
always out there, leading with the chin and quite honestly i'm a little to
old and a little to tired to keep it going much further .

Home from work, but you're pretty low on the priority list. First I gotta

1 ~ Eat

2 ~ Nap

3 ~ NCAA 11

4 ~ Call girl

5 ~ Masturbate

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12 ~ Point out your failures

 

[-SD-]

Home from work, but you're pretty low on the priority list. First I gotta

1 ~ Eat

2 ~ Nap

3 ~ NCAA 11

4 ~ Callgirl

5 ~ Masturbate

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12 ~ Point out your failures

why are you jerking off after getting a callgirl, bor?

 

[puddlemonkey]

why are you jerking off after getting a callgirl, bor?

I'm way behind, all I've done is 1 and 2 so far and it's 9:30 already.