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Irrelevant to the conversation, I never asked for a war on drugs. I know it's hard for you, but try to keep up.


i'll do my best to keep up. you've been screaming liberal this, liberal that!
in the spirit of "keeping up" can you give me a rationale for your protestations
and also, can you explain how this is a liberal act. you neglected to respond
to my relevant post below. however you did respond to the war on drug
statement. are we being selective in our battles.

what's the harm in handing out crack pipes and syringes and it can't be a
unsubstantiated opinion. you've asked me to keep up and it's only fair
that you keep us as well.


you never responded to my post below.

ava and digi are correct. i'm a libertarian sans the "limited military" feature. the point of drug prohibition is HARM REDUCTION / DAMAGE CONTROL. even the morons who back the war on drugs understand that we can't erradicate dope.
the problem is, the war on drugs creates more problems than the drugs! clean syringes equates to less HIV, hep c and bacterial infections. when junkies get sick they're dependent on state aid. a 10 cent syringe can avert 100 k dollars
worth of public funded medical care.

there's nothing liberal about this type of thinking, it's humane and financially sound . a liberal plan would include an added state-local tax to subsidize drug addicts heroin and candy bar diet. in addition the libs would prolly insist that
any family earning more than 250 k would have to give room and board to homeless junkies.
 
i'll do my best to keep up. you've been screaming liberal this, liberal that!
in the spirit of "keeping up" can you give me a rationale for your protestations

Sure, I'll do this when you learn not to hit the return key every time you type four words.

and also, can you explain how this is a liberal act. you neglected to respond
to my relevant post below.

It's been in bold the entire time, last sentence of my original post. Clearly an idea that came from a liberals view.

are we being selective in our battles.

My posting habits have been consistent since '04 when I got here. I don't go around looking for long drawn out 'battles'. You should know this by now, unless I was right and you really are a little slow on the uptake.

what's the harm in handing out crack pipes and syringes and it can't be a
unsubstantiated opinion. you've asked me to keep up and it's only fair
that you keep us as well.

Well, my opinion would probably be an unpopular one. But since you asked for it I guess I'll elaborate.

I can't speak for all, but the crackheads I've encountered have long rap sheets. Most of which include several violent crimes. I've also noticed they have no remorse for their actions, they somehow justify what they've done in their head. Hell, some even brag about it on internet message boards (oh snap!). I wont get into the whole sociopath thing as I've got much bigger fish to fry today than you. :kiss:

you never responded to my post below.

ava and digi are correct. i'm a libertarian sans the "limited military" feature. the point of drug prohibition is HARM REDUCTION / DAMAGE CONTROL. even the morons who back the war on drugs understand that we can't erradicate dope.

No, but we can eradicate the repeat violent offenders who will do anything to get their dope.

the problem is, the war on drugs creates more problems than the drugs! clean syringes equates to less HIV, hep c and bacterial infections.

Dead people don't spread HIV, Hep C or infections.

when junkies get sick they're dependent on state aid. a 10 cent syringe can avert 100 k dollars
worth of public funded medical care.

A dead junkie doesn't require medical care.

there's nothing liberal about this type of thinking, it's humane and financially sound.

Not nearly as financially sound as my plan. My plan would benefit society ten fold over the current system of enabling we have.

a liberal plan would include an added state-local tax to subsidize drug addicts heroin and candy bar diet.

I'm sure it's in the works. Did anyone think we were gonna hand out crack pipes?

I'm not against everything liberal, every once in awhile they get things right. I have no problem with a woman's right to choose. It's their body, not yours. Some additional funding ideas make sense. A better educational system benefits all of us. I don't think affirmative action is the answer, but maybe something along those lines could be beneficial. As for some other topics...


Global warming: Fuck You!

Gun control: Fuck You!

More welfare programs: Fuck You!

Free healthcare for all: Fuck You!

Abolishing the death penalty: Fuck You!

More government: Fuck You!



Ok where were we? Oh yeah, I know you'll probably bring up how you're reformed and rehabilitated and now a productive member of society and free from your past and blah blah blah and how you're ok in the head now etc etc. However

A: You're definitely not ok.

3c: For every one that does get reformed there's probably a hundred that don't and continue down the path of destruction and burdening society.
 
Global warming: Fuck You!

Gun control: Fuck You!

More welfare programs: Fuck You!

Free healthcare for all: Fuck You!

Abolishing the death penalty: Fuck You!

More government: Fuck You!

i agree with all of these except the death penalty. we should ship our criminals to other countries just like other countries do to us.
 
i agree with all of these except the death penalty. we should ship our criminals to other countries just like other countries do to us.

I'd be all for abolishing the death penalty too as long as we could put something worse in its place.

Maybe a multi-year slow death by torture where they have to ask to be killed first?
 
I have always used 25's so I guess I'm used to it. I do have to press fairly hard and it takes probably 20-25 seconds to push the oil in, but this is what I have done from day one.

I was under the belief that 25g causes less damage and hurts less.

What's the size difference going to 23g?

none (pain-wise)...and i still take my time...it's just eaiser...if you're not pushing hard, your hand is steadier and there's less damage imho.
 
Practically every other fucking country has free health care.

+40% of americans don't have health care.

Health care costs in the U.S. are skyrocketing.

Yup, working real good for us this system is.
 
Sure, I'll do this when you learn not to hit the return key every time.

personal insults are the defense of a man who lacks solid ideas.

It's been in bold the entire time, last sentence of my original post. Clearly an idea that came from a liberals view.

flawed logic. since it came from a liberal is not ipso facto a liberal idea.

My posting habits have been consistent since '04 when I got here. I don't go around looking for long drawn out 'battles'. You should know this by now, unless I was right and you really are a little slow on the uptake.

you may not be looking for a battle, but when you make broad sweeping and
erroneous statements, you should at least be prepared to defend your position.
being challenged aint a bad thing.

Well, my opinion would probably be an unpopular one. But since you asked for it I guess I'll elaborate.

I can't speak for all, but the crackheads I've encountered have long rap sheets. Most of which include several violent crimes. I've also noticed they have no remorse for their actions, they somehow justify what they've done in their head. Hell, some even brag about it on internet message boards (oh snap!). I wont get into the whole sociopath thing as I've got much bigger fish to fry today than you. :kiss:

flawed logic based on anecdotal evidence and the premise that drug addicts
are sociopaths. drug addicts and alcoholics can lead productive lives as
evidenced by the millions who've recovered over the past 60 years in AA.

No, but we can eradicate the repeat violent offenders who will do anything to get their dope.

on this we agree. violent repeat offenders need to be removed from society,
one way or the other.


Dead people don't spread HIV, Hep C or infections.

are you suggesting that we kill drug addicts?

A dead junkie doesn't require medical care.

and you were referencing sociopaths earlier......... interesting.

Not nearly as financially sound as my plan. My plan would benefit society ten fold over the current system of enabling we have.

your plan sounds like hitler, mussolini and osama bin ladens plan.
kill everything that you don't understand or disagree with. okydok
y.

I'm sure it's in the works. Did anyone think we were gonna hand out crack pipes?

I'm not against everything liberal, every once in awhile they get things right. I have no problem with a woman's right to choose. It's their body, not yours. Some additional funding ideas make sense. A better educational system benefits all of us. I don't think affirmative action is the answer, but maybe something along those lines could be beneficial. As for some other topics...


Global warming: Fuck You!

Gun control: Fuck You!

More welfare programs: Fuck You!

Free healthcare for all: Fuck You!

Abolishing the death penalty: Fuck You!

More government: Fuck You!



Ok where were we? Oh yeah, I know you'll probably bring up how you're reformed and rehabilitated and now a productive member of society and free from your past and blah blah blah and how you're ok in the head now etc etc. However

A: You're definitely not ok.

3c: For every one that does get reformed there's probably a hundred that don't and continue down the path of destruction and burdening society.

of course i'm not "ok" i don't even know what "ok" means. i am a human being.
i have flaws and i'm working to be a better father, husband , friend , employer
lifes a journey bro, i think when you get "ok" somebodys reading your
eulegy.


your premise suggest that we throw the baby out with the bathwater.
dood all life is precious. if we follow your philosophy we would kill
the debilitated elderly and mentally retarded . they're a burden on society
and they're not going to get better.


puddles you are an ok guy but you're in over your head. when you engage in an
argument with a formidable opponenet, you can't operate backwards.
you form a conclusion and try to make the premises fit. hell, most of the
argument you don't even bother with premises. you say kill 'em or let 'em
die or you conjure up some anecdotal nonsense . this form of
arguing reminds me of liberals........ all opinion and emotion with
absolutely no evidence to back it up. furthermore, you take the liberals
approach in insulting your opponent or alternately dismissing them \ignoring them. it may be one of the reasons you dislike them so much. such is
usually the case in those we protesteth too much.
 
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