Pharm grade/UG gear is there a big difference?

[Varga]

What's interesting is how sure you all are about the products put out by big pharma. These companies are driven by profits and I wont be suprised if their raw material comes from plants in china, India or around there somewhere where is a lot cheaper to manufacture.

 

[lartinos]

Ya, once again I agree with needto. I will also say though the quality of those UG labs have gotten slightly better through the years.
You rarely hear of many horror stories, but they are out there occasionally. Availability for HG stuff will always be an issue because almost all of it comes from overseas.

 

[Liquid 2009]

What's interesting is how sure you all are about the products put out by big pharma. These companies are driven by profits and I wont be suprised if their raw material comes from plants in china, India or around there somewhere where is a lot cheaper to manufacture.

But wouldn't it still have to meet USP standards?

 

[sparkant]

The main difference for me is the absence of a golf ball sized lump and the test flu , when i changed to pharm grade i was able to walk after taking the shots.

 

[Para_Shoot]

I had pharm grade test prop and it crytsalized. I'll take homebrew I know is done right every time.

 

[Nelson Montana]

No matter what anyone tells you pharm grade it better no contest. Anyone telling you anything different is just trying to get business for there buddy who sells ug crap.

Look don't get me wrong there is some bad ass ug labs out there. But even the best ug is still not as good as the worst pharm grade, its that simple bro.

True, except there are no "worse" pharm grades -- the quality must reach a certain standard in order to be released to the public.

The big difference is, the pharm grade is 100% proven. You take your chances with any UG. Some are very good. But some start out good and go south after a while.

Then again, it's hard to tell if what you have is "pharma" unless you buy it in a pharmacy.

The moral of the story -- find a solid UG and stick with them. Don't look for bargains.

 

[SLAYER69!]

What's interesting is how sure you all are about the products put out by big pharma. These companies are driven by profits and I wont be suprised if their raw material comes from plants in china, India or around there somewhere where is a lot cheaper to manufacture.

Bingo! if you guys think an amp made in Iran or Pakistan is pharma grade your kidding yourself. I would get laughed out of the gym if I told someone I was taking that back in the good old days. Man I miss the days of Squibb and Upjohn shit. Damn USA obsession with steroid laws put an end to that.

 

[wootoom]

Of course Pharm grade is better....

 

[LiftHeavy078]

I have been using Organon Sust the past few years. This year, I am using a UGL Test E and there is no difference at all. It's the same thing. The problem with UGL's is they are not always dosed properly and they can have problems being steril, so a lot of people get sick the first couple of weeks on them.

If the dose is correct, there is no difference. When people say pharm grade is far superior to UGL, it is all bullcrap, and those people really have no idea what they are talking about. They are just parrots that go by what they heard from someone who got crappy UGL gear. If there is a difference between the gains you get, then it really is not noticeable at all.

 

[OMEGA]

eveery one is more or less right

Ill give you my "latter" on Quality.

Gear in Amps Clearly from a Drug Company is THE best #1

Gear in bottles from Drug Company as good usually

Compounding Pharmies are 3rd ( sometimes they are stellar , sometime not soo good)

UG head labs are tied with 3rd, but make no mistake they can be as good as #1

UG individuals with science back round ( only good if they have a real powder connect so its hit and miss)

then All others Blahhhh ( avoid photo copy labels hint hint)