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marcu_s

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So this is my ninth day on test.
My first cycle, 400-450mg test p ew, divided to one shot everyday, along whit 40mg andriol i just had lying around, they will last maybe 6 weeks or so.

So far, im growing like hell, already up 4 kgs.
Not strong as hell, but ive read that all doesnt get strong as hell on test.

First i thought that i would do 9 weeks, but after some thought 8 weeks.

I dont lik being as heavy that i am now, did some hiit cardio yesteday and THAT was HEAVY!

Got a little more than 6 weeks left, 183cm, 89kg this morning.
I think pretty big anyways, can see abs when flexing them, but when relaxed no, so the shape is....starting to get fat and watery.

Got some adex around, is it worth it to take some 1-2 days from now to get rid of a bit water?

I dont have or have seen any sides.

Or is it another way i should do it?

thanks bros, need the help.

btw, am i the only one holding my breath when doing pec injects:biggrin:?
 
Yet more proof that you don;t need a ton of shit to grow, especially if you're new to it. The only danger in growing TOO fast is a rise in blood pressure. Try to sweat out the extra water. Cut the cycle a bit short. Maybe next time use something less bloating. (Primo with less test).

Why in the world would you inject in the pecs? It's got to hurt and it can't be safe.
 
You know that steroids just need to be injected into muscle so they diffuse into the liver more gradually (rather than instantly). The muscle you injected into won't grow any quicker because you injected there. So there's no point in injecting in small muscles. That would cause a lot of pain and you'd have no extra gains to show for it....
 
There is no such thing as too big.
 
I bet he looks like a bloated red faced monster.

Letrozole should be your friend. I'd throw away the worthless adex.
 
i would check diet, if your are getting to "big" but you feel fat and watery you need to follow a really clean diet, also how much water are you drinking?, remember the more water you drink the less water you retain.
 
So this is my ninth day on test.
My first cycle, 400-450mg test p ew, divided to one shot everyday, along whit 40mg andriol i just had lying around, they will last maybe 6 weeks or so.

So far, im growing like hell, already up 4 kgs.
Not strong as hell, but ive read that all doesnt get strong as hell on test.

First i thought that i would do 9 weeks, but after some thought 8 weeks.

I dont lik being as heavy that i am now, did some hiit cardio yesteday and THAT was HEAVY!

Got a little more than 6 weeks left, 183cm, 89kg this morning.
I think pretty big anyways, can see abs when flexing them, but when relaxed no, so the shape is....starting to get fat and watery.

Got some adex around, is it worth it to take some 1-2 days from now to get rid of a bit water?

I dont have or have seen any sides.

Or is it another way i should do it?

thanks bros, need the help.

btw, am i the only one holding my breath when doing pec injects:biggrin:?




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Hell i have 3 sizes of clothes in my closet.

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So this is my ninth day on test.
My first cycle, 400-450mg test p ew, divided to one shot everyday, along whit 40mg andriol i just had lying around, they will last maybe 6 weeks or so.

So far, im growing like hell, already up 4 kgs.
Not strong as hell, but ive read that all doesnt get strong as hell on test.

First i thought that i would do 9 weeks, but after some thought 8 weeks.

I dont lik being as heavy that i am now, did some hiit cardio yesteday and THAT was HEAVY!

Got a little more than 6 weeks left, 183cm, 89kg this morning.
I think pretty big anyways, can see abs when flexing them, but when relaxed no, so the shape is....starting to get fat and watery.

Got some adex around, is it worth it to take some 1-2 days from now to get rid of a bit water?

I dont have or have seen any sides.

Or is it another way i should do it?

thanks bros, need the help.

btw, am i the only one holding my breath when doing pec injects:biggrin:?
pics, pls?
 
Man the good ole days of having fresh receptors and being a virgin juciebag!!!


cayenne pepper, extract preferably. Every day for a couple months your receptors are wiped clean as a babys butt. It's not for the faint though. There's definitely some sacrifices to be made...and I think you have an idea what those are...lol
 
I used to think that so last cycle i made the mistake of dieting and eating wayy to lil and too clean when i came off i pretty much was the same as when i started off... this cycle ima gain 25-30 lbs so when ever i come off ill still have 20 more on me :D
 
actully the pec injections is not that bad, like the felling i get, althrougt my pec,delt and tric.

i eat all clean, just chicken,lean beef and proteinpowder and almonds.
carbs come from oatmeal,wholegrain pasta and brown rice.
maybe should cut the cals 100-200 instead.

drinking 4-6 litres of water a day so that isnt bad eiather.

i know i need 3200cals to grow natural, meaning growing whitout too much fat.

now i stay between 3500-3700 cals 40%p 30%c 30f, so not to much carbs, under 280.
 
Yet more proof that you don;t need a ton of shit to grow, especially if you're new to it. The only danger in growing TOO fast is a rise in blood pressure. Try to sweat out the extra water. Cut the cycle a bit short. Maybe next time use something less bloating. (Primo with less test).

Why in the world would you inject in the pecs? It's got to hurt and it can't be safe.

pecs are one of my favorite places. verry easy to do sitting or standing, pain is minimal, nerves are few and we are equiped with a chest wall to protect our organs. you would have to swing like you are throwing a punch to penetrate it. just as safe as glutes.
 
pecs are one of my favorite places. verry easy to do sitting or standing, pain is minimal, nerves are few and we are equiped with a chest wall to protect our organs. you would have to swing like you are throwing a punch to penetrate it. just as safe as glutes.

I'll take your word for it. Scares the shit out of ME!!! :eek2:
 
I'll take your word for it. Scares the shit out of ME!!! :eek2:

i was scared to for a while. i new about the chest wall but it still just seemed king of goory. now i only inject trt once per wk and i usually just alternate pecs. its the easiest most painless spot for me.
 
Watch the carbs, keep your water intake up to balance your water supply. I dont agree with water pills or trying to sweat out the water. Just keep up the water. Also stretch.
 
195lbs at 6 foot is by no means big. That still fits nicely into size large shirts. My first cycle i went from 200 to 265 at 6 foot and had to get a new wardrobe and it sucked.
 
adex is worthless? I prefer it to letro.

Should have been more clear...adex is worthless for me. Letro every 3rd or 4th day for me is perfect. Keeps water off better than anything.

Sucks not having a sex drive though :(
 
Yet more proof that you don;t need a ton of shit to grow, especially if you're new to it. The only danger in growing TOO fast is a rise in blood pressure. Try to sweat out the extra water. Cut the cycle a bit short. Maybe next time use something less bloating. (Primo with less test).

Why in the world would you inject in the pecs? It's got to hurt and it can't be safe.

I put on 100 pounds of muscle, in 2 years and my BP was thru the roof. I usually disagree with you, however I must agree here. I am now on a mild BP med.
 
i was scared to for a while. i new about the chest wall but it still just seemed king of goory. now i only inject trt once per wk and i usually just alternate pecs. its the easiest most painless spot for me.

chest wall?!

actully did 5 mins cardio after the workout and switched 40g carbs to 40g protein and today i weghted 88,1 kg,so 6 hg of water dropped of....felling much better now:)
 
Pec injects are great. Go about two inches up and out from your nip. I prefer the pec to the shoulder now. A little weird at first but no biggie after that. 5/8" 25g good to go.
 
Pec injects are great. Go about two inches up and out from your nip. I prefer the pec to the shoulder now. A little weird at first but no biggie after that. 5/8" 25g good to go.

5/8" that seems shallow. i personally go into the upper pec on the inside to most and use a 1.5 just as i do everywhere else.
 
i've had more pain from calf sticks than i have pec sticks. :whatever:
 
So this is my ninth day on test.
My first cycle, 400-450mg test p ew, divided to one shot everyday, along whit 40mg andriol i just had lying around, they will last maybe 6 weeks or so.

So far, im growing like hell, already up 4 kgs.
Not strong as hell, but ive read that all doesnt get strong as hell on test.

First i thought that i would do 9 weeks, but after some thought 8 weeks.

I dont lik being as heavy that i am now, did some hiit cardio yesteday and THAT was HEAVY!

Got a little more than 6 weeks left, 183cm, 89kg this morning.
I think pretty big anyways, can see abs when flexing them, but when relaxed no, so the shape is....starting to get fat and watery.

Got some adex around, is it worth it to take some 1-2 days from now to get rid of a bit water?

I dont have or have seen any sides.

Or is it another way i should do it?

thanks bros, need the help.

btw, am i the only one holding my breath when doing pec injects:biggrin:?

sounds like your making nice progress. I would watch your diet closer if your getting fat.
PEC injects are something I could never do.
 
195lbs at 6 foot is by no means big. That still fits nicely into size large shirts. My first cycle i went from 200 to 265 at 6 foot and had to get a new wardrobe and it sucked.

I hear Ya.

My third cycle was the first time I ran Test and Deca. I went from 210 to 260 and wasn't smart enough to think that I should wait until the end of that cycle to buy new clothes. I remember buying a new suit in the middle if that cycle and when I was done I have to give that suit to my Father cause I couldn't put on the jacket. Damn.
 
actully ive started to eat a little cleaner and been doing 5 mins on the treadmill after the workouts and im not as bloated anymore, feeling perfect.
down 2hgs from yesterday but that may be beacause i didnt drink any water after 7 in the evening (always waking up in the mittle of the night to take a piss)

starting week 3 today, so also my hcg treatment.
i got this pm about "30% of pct.." when i read a bit i saw this columm or whats its called where i read that i should stop my hcg 2 weeks before i do my last test p inject.

man i always read all this things, ive pmd needtoo about this also a while ago, but i always start to think.

my pct:
week 3-8 250iu hcg every mon, fri
and 3 days after ive taken my last test p shot im starting whit nolva.

why did it say 2 weeks...it doesnt take 2 weeks for test p to clear my system...

is this a good pct?
 
5/8" that seems shallow. i personally go into the upper pec on the inside to most and use a 1.5 just as i do everywhere else.

You are also one thick ass motherfucker! You have much more meat on you than most. I am 5'11, 205, 9ish BF, you are 5'5" 270 or wherever you are these days. I have since switched to 25g 1", that is plenty deep for my chest, though the 5/8ths were fine as well.
 
So this is my ninth day on test.
My first cycle, 400-450mg test p ew, divided to one shot everyday, along whit 40mg andriol i just had lying around, they will last maybe 6 weeks or so.

So far, im growing like hell, already up 4 kgs.
Not strong as hell, but ive read that all doesnt get strong as hell on test.

First i thought that i would do 9 weeks, but after some thought 8 weeks.

I dont lik being as heavy that i am now, did some hiit cardio yesteday and THAT was HEAVY!

Got a little more than 6 weeks left, 183cm, 89kg this morning.
I think pretty big anyways, can see abs when flexing them, but when relaxed no, so the shape is....starting to get fat and watery.

Got some adex around, is it worth it to take some 1-2 days from now to get rid of a bit water?

I dont have or have seen any sides.

Or is it another way i should do it?

thanks bros, need the help.

btw, am i the only one holding my breath when doing pec injects:biggrin:?

no offence man but 89kg really isnt that heavy. Im 15 and I was at 84kg at the start of the summer. Now Im down to about 79-80kg and Im at the point like yu where abs are visible when tensing but not quite when relaxed.
 
no offence man but 89kg really isnt that heavy. Im 15 and I was at 84kg at the start of the summer. Now Im down to about 79-80kg and Im at the point like yu where abs are visible when tensing but not quite when relaxed.

dont have that problem now, i have the same as u whit my abs, but 10 kg heavier..
 
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