Testosterone chart

[Varga]

No I didnt try to lose the weight, The weight just gradually came off with me trying to not lose it, very weird. And yes I did take steroids when i was 15-16 years old, thats what i think caused this.

Ah...unfortunately you could be right my friend!
I had a feeling that's what happened that's why I asked the question...In that case it will show up in that test. Im not going to try to speculate so when you get the test back just post it up or PM me. I've been through this before and I can tell you from the tests what is going on. It would be sad if you fried your pituitary gland too young for that shit.

WHat compounds did you take?

 

[mike12]

i took test enthante for 12 weeks 500mg/week, then few months later test 12 weeks 500mg/week with 6 weeks dbol 40mg ed then couple months after dbol only 6 weeks 40mg ed.

 

[Varga]

i took test enthante for 12 weeks 500mg/week, then few months later test 12 weeks 500mg/week with 6 weeks dbol 40mg ed then couple months after dbol only 6 weeks 40mg ed.

Oh man, that was a lot of time you were on ...It may help to do a strong PCT but wait for the results first

 

[mike12]

I went to the endocrinologist today, and he says everything is "normal" its all in my head. the tests came back he didnt give me a copy of the results but i remember him saying my free test was just a bit above the lowest in the range. So my total is barely over low 300ng/dl and my free test is barely over the lowest in the range. And after talking to him about treatments he said im not going to put you on hrt, i said good i dont want it, and he says there is ABSOLUTELY no way to increase natural test permanently (long term), herbs,supplements,hcg all that will stimulate lh production while your "on" it but once you come off you will be worst then you started off with so he says my hpta is stuck in a negative feedback loop and only time will fix it... Looks like im on my own then, is there really NOTHING to raise natural test permanently (long term) and not jsut while your ON it? i appreciate the help.

 

[mike12]

any help?

 

[Nelson Montana]

I went to the endocrinologist today, and he says everything is "normal" its all in my head. the tests came back he didnt give me a copy of the results but i remember him saying my free test was just a bit above the lowest in the range. So my total is barely over low 300ng/dl and my free test is barely over the lowest in the range. And after talking to him about treatments he said im not going to put you on hrt, i said good i dont want it, and he says there is ABSOLUTELY no way to increase natural test permanently (long term), herbs,supplements,hcg all that will stimulate lh production while your "on" it but once you come off you will be worst then you started off with so he says my hpta is stuck in a negative feedback loop and only time will fix it... Looks like im on my own then, is there really NOTHING to raise natural test permanently (long term) and not jsut while your ON it? i appreciate the help.

YOU'RE NOT LISTENING!

Dude, I said this on page one. Stop asking the same questions expecting to get the answer you want. I suspect this is how you got ito this mess in the first place. Supps may only raise T temporarily, but Vitamin C only prevents scurvy temporarily. NOTHING is permanent. You can;t just take a pill and cure a deficiency forever. DEAL WITH IT.

As for your doctor, I would suspect the credentials of any doctor who says "It' all in your head." You can get HRT if you want. If you don't, then stop complaining and accept your choice.

 

[mike12]

ok so my test levels will never get out of the negative feedback loop and return to what i was before i took those cycles? Im not trying to get the answer i want, im asking if theres some sort of way to help bring my natural test levels to where they used to be and stay there.

 

[Nelson Montana]

ok so my test levels will never get out of the negative feedback loop and return to what i was before i took those cycles? Im not trying to get the answer i want, im asking if theres some sort of way to help bring my natural test levels to where they used to be and stay there.

Dude, that is EXACTLY asking the same question expecting the answer you want. You don;t want to use the supps and you don;t want to go on HRT. So what the fuck bro?

 

[mike12]

Dude, that is EXACTLY asking the same question expecting the answer you want. You don;t want to use the supps and you don;t want to go on HRT. So what the fuck bro?

Im sorry if my questions came across repetive or annoying but Im really trying to fix this problem of mine, its getting pretty bad. My doctor just blew me off, and the only hope i have is to try and learn something on here. What im trying to understand is people who have NATURALLY normal/high (800-1200ng/dl) test levels but use exogenous test which brings their natural production WAY down to 300ng/dl and even couple years later they never fully recover to be back at 800-1200ng/dl where they were before touching steroids. I understand supps can short term increase test, but what good is that... or hrt which you will probabaly have to rely on for life. Im trying to figure out whats causing the hpta to think 300ng/dl is enough? thanks

Again im just trying to learn so my bad if im get annoying.

 

[Varga]

At this point is not much you can do but try to workout and hopefully your body will snap out of it. maybe try clomid for few weeks 50mg ED and see what happens afterwards. Otherwise let time heal it