XX and XY ...

[Frisky]

I have a rant... Oh who me? Not Frisky!!!

When will XX be treated as fairly as XY? More experience, more productivity, yet less pay and severly less respect. My work is on time, and the demand on me is quite a bit more than my male counterparts. I don't think it's fair. I have been in the oil field (male based field) for over 8 years and not a damn thing has change.

I put in more time and more energy than two of the XY's in our office and they still get the upper hand treatment.

I would get more respect as a damn prostitute than a career woman in this field. Maybe its this small hick ass town I live in and the egotistical assholes I have to work with (not all men, but the majority) have no respect for women taking 'their' jobs.

My Sr. Estimator set me up for failure on the first day I started... why? Hell I dunno, never meet the man before. I didn't fail, and that irritated him even more... why? Because I didn't need him! I didn't beg for his help, cry because I just didn't understand like he expected me to do... He doesn't like me much, and really didn't like having to come to me to ask question on how to do something reguarding a class we took... oh that killed him.

Ok, I've had my rant!

No reply's necessary, but it was so much better to type it here rather than go postal up in this place.

And I didn't even scratch the surface of the difference of treatment given amongst male/female in my field. Oh and I am the first woman in company's history here to hold this positon. Guess its scary for them, wouldn't want a woman to be a bit better than you would you?

 

[lartinos]

shut up if you haven't blown anyone yet, no will hand you anything in life. Either that or stop bitching and start working in the kitchen to bring some cookies in for us hardworking men.


I'd leave if I were you, or atleast figure out a way too maybe one day move on. Maybe a lawsuit?

 

[-Ariel-]

I have a rant... Oh who me? Not Frisky!!!

When will XX be treated as fairly as XY? More experience, more productivity, yet less pay and severly less respect. My work is on time, and the demand on me is quite a bit more than my male counterparts. I don't think it's fair. I have been in the oil field (male based field) for over 8 years and not a damn thing has change.

I put in more time and more energy than two of the XY's in our office and they still get the upper hand treatment.

I would get more respect as a damn prostitute than a career woman in this field. Maybe its this small hick ass town I live in and the egotistical assholes I have to work with (not all men, but the majority) have no respect for women taking 'their' jobs.

My Sr. Estimator set me up for failure on the first day I started... why? Hell I dunno, never meet the man before. I didn't fail, and that irritated him even more... why? Because I didn't need him! I didn't beg for his help, cry because I just didn't understand like he expected me to do... He doesn't like me much, and really didn't like having to come to me to ask question on how to do something reguarding a class we took... oh that killed him.

Ok, I've had my rant!

No reply's necessary, but it was so much better to type it here rather than go postal up in this place.

And I didn't even scratch the surface of the difference of treatment given amongst male/female in my field. Oh and I am the first woman in company's history here to hold this positon. Guess its scary for them, wouldn't want a woman to be a bit better than you would you?

Dude hawtie exec in the oil field?
Damn Frisky, that is like me being a bartender in a country western bar. I Imean its just not something that is the opposite of what is associated with it ya know.
Yeah dude, you gotta be havin like turmoil every day, damn.
How the hell did you get into Oil? I'm just curious...
I mean for a lady to break into that business, is kinda like female scientist, the respect is twice as hard to get, the social pipeline that allows for networking is closed off to women in both fields, which ya know how you get ahead is through the social pipeline more than job proficiency.
I'm so happy I'm in a female oriented environment, I would go nuts hanging out with those repressed mother fuckers.

 

[bigmann245]

learn golf, it goes a long way.....

 

[Frisky]

Dude hawtie exec in the oil field?
Damn Frisky, that is like me being a bartender in a country western bar. I Imean its just not something that is the opposite of what is associated with it ya know.
Yeah dude, you gotta be havin like turmoil every day, damn.
How the hell did you get into Oil? I'm just curious...
I mean for a lady to break into that business, is kinda like female scientist, the respect is twice as hard to get, the social pipeline that allows for networking is closed off to women in both fields, which ya know how you get ahead is through the social pipeline more than job proficiency.
I'm so happy I'm in a female oriented environment, I would go nuts hanging out with those repressed mother fuckers.

I was raised around it all my life, My father's family owns a machine shop (dealing with oilfield related parts) and my step father always worked in the oilfield. So basically I was raised around it since I can even remember. I however never was handed a damn thing, all the jobs I did get were because of my persistance but that didn't make getting in the door or getting the respect I deserved any easier.

I don't hold the typical womans oilfield job... ex... sec, accounting, admin assistant, etc... i am in a whole different field. Mostly men doing what I do, I am more than likely one a 50. Women will get away with sales in the oilfield due to selling theirselves and not even knowing shit about the product... and yep they make tons of money doing it. Offered a job doing such, but I've heard with my own ears how these women are talked about once they leave the office... and clueless... shall she come in with some knowledge and respect for herself her chances of getting the sale as opposed to her big boobed ditzy competition is normally very slim to none.

When I arrive at work i don't ask for special treatment, If the men have to comply... then so do I. If they have to go on derricks and tough it out, then so do I. I never cried "i'm a woman... blah blah, give me special treatment." I sport the steel toe boots, safety hat and glasses, pull out the measure and get full of oil and rust just like those dangling a peepee. What besides that Y in the chromo makes them any better than me (considering the fact that I actually have a clue as to what I am doing and didn't get the job due to my fantab smile and perky boobs... LOL, j/k... )

 

[Dial_tone]

Start chewing tobacco.

 

[-Ariel-]

I was raised around it all my life, My father's family owns a machine shop (dealing with oilfield related parts) and my step father always worked in the oilfield. So basically I was raised around it since I can even remember. I however never was handed a damn thing, all the jobs I did get were because of my persistance but that didn't make getting in the door or getting the respect I deserved any easier.

I don't hold the typical womans oilfield job... ex... sec, accounting, admin assistant, etc... i am in a whole different field. Mostly men doing what I do, I am more than likely one a 50. Women will get away with sales in the oilfield due to selling theirselves and not even knowing shit about the product... and yep they make tons of money doing it. Offered a job doing such, but I've heard with my own ears how these women are talked about once they leave the office... and clueless... shall she come in with some knowledge and respect for herself her chances of getting the sale as opposed to her big boobed ditzy competition is normally very slim to none.

When I arrive at work i don't ask for special treatment, If the men have to comply... then so do I. If they have to go on derricks and tough it out, then so do I. I never cried "i'm a woman... blah blah, give me special treatment." I sport the steel toe boots, safety hat and glasses, pull out the measure and get full of oil and rust just like those dangling a peepee. What besides that Y in the chromo makes them any better than me (considering the fact that I actually have a clue as to what I am doing and didn't get the job due to my fantab smile and perky boobs... LOL, j/k... )

Can you handle the truth? I mean deep down you know it and so do I.
You threaten us when You show that you can handle your shit. I mean, like dude men wanna feel like men ya know. I mean I'm bout as liberal as shit gets, but fuck brah, I don't wanna feel like a panzy around a hawtie, or even a non hawtie for that matter. So you show up all hawt, smart, charming, but fucking determined, and now with this GI Jane attitude, dude its threatening to the male ego. It whispers, that now we got nothin to offer. Before we could be the only one in the fields, and take pride at getting dirty, it builds identity, self worth, that kinda thing a dude can kick back on and enjoy his bud weiser with. Nothin wrong with bein a steel drivin man.. lol, You threaten the very core of that. I'm liberal Frisk, and a little bit of a challenge to the standard definintion, but yeah, I can see how these repressed mother fuckers would be getting angry just at seeing you. I'm just sayin sweetie, you might as well as chosen infantry as a career line, that I think has way more acceptance than the one that you are in.
Howver, this is your karma, this is your job, this is what you do. It is always hard for the pioneers in a field. It certainly seems to me that you are nothing less than a real time pioneer.

 

[Frisky]

shut up if you haven't blown anyone yet, no will hand you anything in life. Either that or stop bitching and start working in the kitchen to bring some cookies in for us hardworking men.


I'd leave if I were you, or atleast figure out a way too maybe one day move on. Maybe a lawsuit?

Oh stfu would you! I am not blowing anyone nor am I or ever will bow down to the means of any ego asshole who thinks I am below him because i don't have a penis. I work longer hours and put in a better quality of work than some of the men here... so maybe the should bring my ass some cookies... eh

Quit... lawsuit? LOL, are you familiar with the corrupt LA law system?

I'll move on one day, but only because I want to, Until then I'll bitch to you guys about it.

 

[all the whey]

Read the book by the President of NOW. (National Organization of Women)


Women miss 50% more work days than men. (US Labor Department)

Women make up 57% of college degrees. However, generally women chose lower paying degrees. (education, interior design, literature, etc.)

Generally, uneducated women do not choose the higher paying dangerous jobs.

 

[Frisky]

Can you handle the truth? I mean deep down you know it and so do I.
You threaten us when You show that you can handle your shit. I mean, like dude men wanna feel like men ya know. I mean I'm bout as liberal as shit gets, but fuck brah, I don't wanna feel like a panzy around a hawtie, or even a non hawtie for that matter. So you show up all hawt, smart, charming, but fucking determined, and now with this GI Jane attitude, dude its threatening to the male ego. It whispers, that now we got nothin to offer. Before we could be the only one in the fields, and take pride at getting dirty, it builds identity, self worth, that kinda thing a dude can kick back on and enjoy his bud weiser with. Nothin wrong with bein a steel drivin man.. lol, You threaten the very core of that. I'm liberal Frisk, and a little bit of a challenge to the standard definintion, but yeah, I can see how these repressed mother fuckers would be getting angry just at seeing you. I'm just sayin sweetie, you might as well as chosen infantry as a career line, that I think has way more acceptance than the one that you are in.
Howver, this is your karma, this is your job, this is what you do. It is always hard for the pioneers in a field. It certainly seems to me that you are nothing less than a real time pioneer.

Oh... I can have a tad bit of sympathy sometimes. I don't show off, or put anyone down because I may know something they don't. I never hesitate to help nor hesitate to ask for help if indeed I need it. I am still feminine, soft spoken and modest...

It all comes together when you actually meet their wives. Over 3/4 of them are homemakers (nothing wrong with that at all) however, are belittled by their husbands about how little they do, and how they could never make it in a mans world... blah blah... Yes, openly infront of bystanders they do this. I've had more than one tell me that a womans place is in the kitchen... I simply just laughed at him, made an evil smirk and said ... Hey, one of your customers just called me... seems you figured out the volume of that tank wrong, so I went ahead and resubmitted the drawings for you with the proper numbers and weights. You can thank me with some homeaid cookies and skim milk... *wink* thanks...

He hated me!

LOL

I know it will never completely change here, too many passed down generation rules as to who should rule the roost when it comes to certain positons, and lord forbid you allow a woman to be your superior. Most men will quit before that happens... I did however remain in the field, not to prove a point but because I truely do love what I do, have experience, it interest me... and I'm good at it.

One day... maybe, I'll hold a girly job, ya know fix Mikey his coffee, run his errands, give him a blow job during lunch for the sake of a little raise... hahahaha.... NOT!