First Cycle - Dosing Question

[Nelson Montana]

Might as well go big with 500.

Not really logical. He can get big on 250, so why get more suppressed.

You may acually want to try something less suppressive for a trail run. Hell, you can grow on 25 mgs of dbol for 4 weeks with the right training and a few supps. I think first cycles have become overkill. They should be a trail run. You've got plenty of time to go up in dosage and duration.

 

[access]

Not really logical. He can get big on 250, so why get more suppressed.

You may acually want to try something less suppressive for a trail run. Hell, you can grow on 25 mgs of dbol for 4 weeks with the right training and a few supps. I think first cycles have become overkill. They should be a trail run. You've got plenty of time to go up in dosage and duration.

Agree completely and why low dose test is perfect IMO. Gives you a great base going forward as to how your going to react on future cycles when you should be starting to experiment a little with differing stacks and doses. More often than not your going to have some test in most if not all cycles you will do.

 

[EZ_E]

I can see my top 2 abs yes
The guess was based on previous measures ive had in the past when I was at 11%, 14% & 16%.

Is there a certain % you need to be under before staring a cycle? (without it being obese like 50% lol)

Don't laugh, there are people on here who are @ 25% BF asking "How does this cycle look?"

 

[EZ_E]

Personally, i would spend 4 weeks prior to cycle running a intense cutting cycle, either using clen/ephidrene etc or trying an OTC stack like Omega's with Dermatherm etc. This will help you drop bf% so you can greater guage the effectiveness of your cycle on increasing LBM.

I would go 500 too, with a-dex on hand incase of gyno symptoms. PCT, well, there are a few options, HCG and sustain alpha is probably the way to go for you.

I like the idea of cutting down 1st, but Clen for this guy?

 

[rediculus]

fuck clen

dude you need 6 percent bodyfat before you try and improve your body composition!! I know it's Illegal but shit so is what your pinning. Just take a good week. Coke it up straight to the nose from the nose to the dome man!!! You'll love it!!! Pretend it's vegas time! When your done from 6 days of tweaking and your down 7 or 8 percent bodyfat then you might enjoy a cycle. Until them man 16 or 17% bodyfat?


My mom said I was too sarcastic some times....Like women your better off starting small and figuring out if you like the big ones later.

 

[tampatraps]

fuck clen

dude you need 6 percent bodyfat before you try and improve your body composition!! I know it's Illegal but shit so is what your pinning. Just take a good week. Coke it up straight to the nose from the nose to the dome man!!! You'll love it!!! Pretend it's vegas time! When your done from 6 days of tweaking and your down 7 or 8 percent bodyfat then you might enjoy a cycle. Until them man 16 or 17% bodyfat?


My mom said I was too sarcastic some times....Like women your better off starting small and figuring out if you like the big ones later.

Rediculius that is some funny shit!!!! cutting with nose candy. know people do it but it's not the best way.... lmao

 

[rediculus]

I have a sarcastic sense of humor and most people don't realize the primary difference in damage different stims do are much less than they think. It's the addictive property of coke and oh wait....I guess all stims are addictive.

Snort your way to home base man. At least then it's a party!!!

short of snorting a wheel barrow listen to Nelson and Access

 

[sopac]

I'd go with 250mgs, I just finished a 10 weeker on cyp. I gained around 15 lbs, I'm confident that I will keep most of my gains. Start low and see how your body reacts.

 

[OMEGA]

500 for 8 weeks, gains will stall by then and you still will have 2 weeks of Growth after last shot befor PCT

 

[Bigpimpin10]

250mg/weekly...because youll grow off of it...have your diet and training in check

because then next cycle you up it too 500mg/weekly and youl obviously grow (havng diet and training in check)
because youve doubled it..and ahve arlaedy done 250..why waste 250mg cycle and do a 500mg cycle first?
when you can grow off 250mgs/