Oral only first cycle

[whitedragon]

First cycle info. Oral only, non-drinker. Doesn't want to do injections. Looking for ideas, something that would give similar results to a 10 week of test e but in pill form. Ideas?

 

[miplank]

Stats?

Age, height, wt, lifting experience.

 

[ironcheif1984]

Stats?

Age, height, wt, lifting experience.

+1 We need to know more about you before we give you advice.

 

[HAYEZ]

tell him to man up and do a real cycle.. cant get cycle results without doing real steroids....
little pills to bloat you up and trash your liver for 10 weeks is not the way to go

 

[whitedragon]

It's actually for a buddy, I know, sounds like a lie.

He's 25, about 6'0 and 190? BF in the low teens. Been working out since high school I think. We hit the gym 5 days a week now and he's been very consistent since I've known him which is a little over 2 years. Not a drinker so his liver should be good.

I'm going to do a 10 wk test e cycle, he wants to do something similar but he's scared of needles. So he wants to do pills, yes he knows they suck and the problems with them, but that's what he wants to do.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Looks like he needs a few more years of training to reach his genetic potential before he resorts to aas.

Does he even have the knowledge of aas and PCT?

 

[HAYEZ]

It's actually for a buddy, I know, sounds like a lie.

He's 25, about 6'0 and 190? BF in the low teens. Been working out since high school I think. We hit the gym 5 days a week now and he's been very consistent since I've known him which is a little over 2 years. Not a drinker so his liver should be good.

I'm going to do a 10 wk test e cycle, he wants to do something similar but he's scared of needles. So he wants to do pills, yes he knows they suck and the problems with them, but that's what he wants to do.

by that sounds like he doesnt work out or he has no idea how to eat and train..6 ft at 190 and high body fat is not very good base to start on

 

[dabuffguy]

by that sounds like he doesnt work out or he has no idea how to eat and train..6 ft at 190 and high body fat is not very good base to start on

+1


yur buddy needs to learn how to eat right and train right.

He won't get great results even with steroids if he can't do those correctly.

 

[the_alcatraz]

+1


yur buddy needs to learn how to eat right and train right.

He won't get great results even with steroids if he can't do those correctly.

yes, diet, training, rest, etc...

 

[miplank]

+1


yur buddy needs to learn how to eat right and train right.

He won't get great results even with steroids if he can't do those correctly.

+2

6' and only 190 with body fat in the low teens? Something isn't adding up. He's diet is either very poor, and he's workout routine sucks, or most likely it's a combination of both.

Tell him to come here and visit the diet and weight training forums and get those down before he even considers gear.