Anadrol 50 Appreciation Thread

[the_alcatraz]

hcg does not supress testosterone, but it does suppress the messengers that tell your balls to make testosterone.

+1

 

[the_alcatraz]

I was under the impression that HCG tells your balls to make testosterone. Why else would you take it?

It stimulates the testes, which is why they become larger, which is a result of their activity, which is why you take it on cycle to keep your natty test levels up, which is why you take it for PCT.

Am I not seeing something here?

If something is suppressive that means it's jumping in front on the bio-feedback loop between your glands and HPTA saying, "stop making testosterone!! We have enough from exogenous methods (such as injecting test)!

HCG short circuits that loop and fools your HTPA into thinking you don't have enough and thus gives your balls the go (if you will) to start producing test.

If I am understanding this correctly HCG is completely un-suppressive.

HCG basically takes the place of what tells your balls to produce test, so since it does that job, whatever tells your balls to produce test doesnt do that anymore. So, when you're off HCG, nothing is telling your balls to produce test, and thats how it's supressive.

 

[dabuffguy]

HCG basically takes the place of what tells your balls to produce test, so since it does that job, whatever tells your balls to produce test doesnt do that anymore. So, when you're off HCG, nothing is telling your balls to produce test, and thats how it's supressive.

I think this would only occur with extended use. A few shots at the end of cycle/beggining of PCT isn't gonna suppress you, but EOD for 6 weeks probably will.


I wish I could say this is accurate from medical research, but I can't find anything on it.

 

[ceo]

My first anadrol was by Syntex. It had 2902 stamped in it.

Me too. 1991.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I think this would only occur with extended use. A few shots at the end of cycle/beggining of PCT isn't gonna suppress you, but EOD for 6 weeks probably will.


I wish I could say this is accurate from medical research, but I can't find anything on it.

I know and I understand what Swole is saying. I use it PCT sometimes. I usually stick to clomid / nolva - my personal cycles are never long anyways

 

[swole]

So you guys would rather suppress your natural test levels indefinitely instead of temporarily suppressing your natural LH (HCG is ONLY LH) production?

Don't you think keeping your natural test levels up during and post cycle is infinitely times more important than worrying about your LH production shutdown from short-term use?

LH isn't the only hormone responsible for stimulating testosterone production.

I'm learning things every day in this game but I never heard someone shy away from HCG because of LH suppression.

This point is mute with 4 week oral cycles. But for a 8-20 weeker I would call you flat out stupid to not use HCG or HMG.

Keep the horses in the stable!!

Good info though fellas, I'm definitely going to look into this

 

[ceo]

the most important role HCG plays is in helping to reverse testicular atrophy. It sends a rush of LH (along with your natural LH) to the testes. The problem is, without HCG, the testes are too atrophied to respond adequately to the signals of LH. No HCG = slower recovery. Swole's line of thinking that it would be better to use HCG would be the same as my line of thinking.

 

[the_alcatraz]

So you guys would rather suppress your natural test levels indefinitely instead of temporarily suppressing your natural LH (HCG is ONLY LH) production?

Don't you think keeping your natural test levels up during and post cycle is infinitely times more important than worrying about your LH production shutdown from short-term use?

LH isn't the only hormone responsible for stimulating testosterone production.

I'm learning things every day in this game but I never heard someone shy away from HCG because of LH suppression.

This point is mute with 4 week oral cycles. But for a 8-20 weeker I would call you flat out stupid to not use HCG or HMG.

Keep the horses in the stable!!

Good info though fellas, I'm definitely going to look into this

The longest cycles I run are 10 weeks...I usually stick to clomid and nolva for PCT.

I have a serious questin. Why does it seem everyone on EF hates clomid?

 

[bigslimfitting]

i only did one 12 week cycle, took it and had nothing bad happen. And i was spooked but fuck all.

 

[swole]

The longest cycles I run are 10 weeks...I usually stick to clomid and nolva for PCT.

I have a serious questin. Why does it seem everyone on EF hates clomid?

Probably because it makes some people feel like a bitch on the rag.

Happened to me, I knew it was the clomid but fuck I felt ridiculously depressed and anxious.

Aromasin, HMG and Sustain Alpha would be my ideal PCT.

The beauty of bodybuilding is to determine what works for you. Alc, if clomid and nolva serve the purpose then why change the routine.