i must give my props to this guy considering we went to same high school and worked out at same gym for over 5 years.. ive seen him grow and get ripped..cowboy bob his dad actually used to own our old gym..Ultimate Gym..dave drapers visited there and "says only place he felt like home in..."..any how..ive talked and hung out with this bro many times in Stl.. his hot sis too..he prefers mex products..Prop is his primary and cycles it 4 weeks on 6 weeks off...religously..and throws some winnie in if need be.. but thats it! prop at about 600mgs. a week!! with necessary ancillaries like liquidex..and clomid. hes blessed with fairly good genetics ..this bro looked 30 in high school- u should've seen him thrown kids around in wrestling practice.i know i was one of em! takes in around 400--450 gms aday..low carb diets..depends alot on supplements though- hates eating.. buys detour bars by the crateful..and trains INTENSE! in a large oversized grey or white hoodie...headphones..and goe s maniacal in the gym..best support to one of my most successful friends...just thought id give my 2cc's on this bro-considering i grew up with him and sister..later.