Why has Masteron shut my libido down? Adex/Prov/Mast too much?

[musclei]

As for so much gear, from my reading, I was under the impression the stuff I was taking was synergistic and helped each other....unlike the multiplying effects such as hitting tren or dbol or deca on top. I wanted to use the prov and then dht to add a bit of "manliness".....most people think im 28. i seriously look young. zero body hair. young boys hairline. Added adex to manage severe and immediate bloat. popped emergency nolva as nips demanded.

Yes, your choice of steroids is good (other than combining Mast and Proviron which are the same thing) and you're on a good cycle, but it's still true that you're taking double the quantity and compounds a newcomer should and that's why you don't know where you're symptoms come from.

Regarding not feeling masculine enough and still looking like a child... I can relate and you're going to love Masteron once you learn and adapt. I think you're only going through the ups and downs of a cycle. I do get them too and I wish I knew how to avoid them which is something Masteron has helped me with greatly.

I say relax, keep training hard and forget about sex for the moment because it's only putting pressure on yourself.

 

[lanier1974]

Damn everything you said is right on and Franky reassuring. Much appreciated. Yes, I'm in the ups and downs of entirely new territory or sure. Wanting to do this for 20years and just now getting to do it is amazing. I feel awesome. I've gained 22lbs in six weeks. I threw up 5x6 deads today at a weight that was a one time 1rm today. I can now do two reps of double military kettlebell presses with a weight I've tried and failed to even budge one handed for seven years.

I think the libido has more to do with just hitting another part of my cycle and having jacked off way too much than anything else. Today it's been 3 days off mast, and my bloat is way up, ankles are puffy even, and I've lost that FURY in the gym. I'm pretty sure my estrogen is high. Gonna go back on the masteron and up my adex. There's just no way my estrogen is too low.

Btw how much mast do you run? Also, ever done a mast only cycle for strength and cutting on a deficit diet? Will it shut you down enough to warrant full chem pct?

 

[musclei]

I think the libido has more to do with just hitting another part of my cycle and having jacked off way too much than anything else. Today it's been 3 days off mast, and my bloat is way up, ankles are puffy even, and I've lost that FURY in the gym. I'm pretty sure my estrogen is high. Gonna go back on the masteron and up my adex. There's just no way my estrogen is too low.

Btw how much mast do you run? Also, ever done a mast only cycle for strength and cutting on a deficit diet? Will it shut you down enough to warrant full chem pct?

Another of the problems I had with my early cycles was that I was using Adex to control estrogen and it did absolutely nothing on me. It wasn't until I switched to Aromasin on my third cycle that I started having solid cycles with all good and less bad: no bloat, not losing strength, not feeling fat or watery. I'd switch to Aromasin if I were you as soon as possible. Even during the duration of this cycle if you can find it.

Regarding how much Masteron, 200mg a week is a low dose and yet a magnificent addition to any cycle. No Masteron, no cycle for me, it's that simple. I don't know if my body has a problem converting test to DHT or what's wrong with me but I NEED those 200mg of Mast. My last cycle was Deca 500mg + Test-c 300mg + Mast 200mg and it was awesome in all respects.

On Masteron only cycles: nobody does that and neither should you. I have a theory that it's possible and it might even not shut you down at all, but there's no need to risk it with a cycle without test.

 

[lanier1974]

Yes, Adex is doing next to nothing for me at 0.5 EOD. Adding masteron started to bring down the bloat. Just three days without it, and last night my normally skinny ankles look like an 80 year old granma's with gout who was on her feet too long! That happened in the first two weeks of test too, which the mast had brought down. Man I'm fat and watery as hell!! My legs are so full that my ITB and lateral facia are sore from being stretched from the inside out!

Ill switch to aromasin immediately as you suggest. Im lucky; blood tests may be though here in Japan, but gear is fast and legal. Ill mail order it and its here in three days reg post. Is it ok to go on the aromasin now and also use it during my pct (I had planned to switch to aromasin pct anyway)?

Your above comments about your body and DHT are EXACTY how I feel! Man it's great to know I'm not alone in that. Masteron is the best thing I've ever done! God, being off and back on mast, I really notice and remember this effect!! God it's the best feeling ever! Trumps test hands down! I've had an inherent, intuitive feeling that I lacked DHT and had excess estrogen for a long time. This trip has confirmed that. I blow up in response to test alone or with Adex combined (estrogen), but masteron's DHT rush scratches the itch I've always wanted to reach!!!! As the masteron waned, I could again feel the test/estrogen only feeling. It's nice. Content, happy, great satisfied mood! Horny too. But not aggressive in the least, and bloat like a water balloon!! Took my Masteron shot last night. I'm sitting here at Shibuya Starbucks this AM in Tokyo sipping my coffee brew and it's coming on....I'm feeling the rush of confident, intense, manageable fury and aggression of an alpha male in charge and ready to rip the heart out of my prey. It's the best feeling of any drug/food/training in my life!!!

Why do you like masteron so much? I'm taking 100mg 3x wk and thinking to bump to 400mg total.

Lemme know what you think about the Aromisin pct.

 

[lanier1974]

Btw, you're in Madrid? Are you Spanish? I'm wanting to move to Spain. I teach in Tokyo, but I really want to try out Europe. Been all over Europe three times backpacking, and before my Japanese messed up my Spanish, I could get by speaking ok.

 

[musclei]

Why do you like masteron so much? I'm taking 100mg 3x wk and thinking to bump to 400mg total.

Lemme know what you think about the Aromisin pct.

Dude, it's your first cycle and you're already on most gear than most others in this forum. Relax, go with your initial plan (but switch to Aromasin) and stop thinking about adding more.

 

[lanier1974]

Word

 

[Dial_tone]

160lbs and over a gram on first cycle...this is why I stopped reading this forum.

 

[lanier1974]

600mg test cyp, 300mg masteron. For the record.

 

[lanier1974]

So, I can't figure out if I've got low estrogen or high.

When I first hit the test, 200mg, no AI, just 50mg proviron ED, I started bloating. By the second week I swole up like a balloon, my nipples got sensitive, and my skinny ankles turned into cankles.....so much swelling it looked like gout!

Added 0.5mg Adex EOD and it got a little better but that's it. Ankles went down by wk 3. Kept it that way.

Rock-hard on's nightly, libido all good. Interest and performance way up.

Week 5 added 100mg 3x wk masteron. Immediately got hard as hell the next day and libido full on. Then, during the ensuing two weeks, libido crashed. I was shooting the masteron together with my 3x wk test shots. Bloat went down a little more. Libido flat. Night sweats went up like crazy.

Last Thursday, I injected my test alone without the masteron. Friday, my ankles had swolen back up to earlier levels (looks awful!). Face ballooned too. I noticed libido went back up a little, and my overall happy feeling went back up (I had felt flat on the masteron). I'm wondering if the masteron shot concurrently with the test stops its aromatization right then and there. When I shot test alone, that rush of unadulterated and unlimited test (bc of absent masteron) just aromatized like crazy.

So, friday night, fearing estrogen (and I can't have my ankles or face like that because I teach and students notice), I popped a 1mg dose of arimidex and a shot of masteron. Saturday the masteron DHT felt confident and mildly aggressive, but my mood and libido returned to flat again. Saturday night, I barely got hard at all during the usual night hard on's.

Ok, I'm stupid. And eager. Being skinny all my life and gaining 22 lbs has been a rush. As you guys have advised, I'm on too much gear and ill drop the masteron for that reason; your advice.

Now, by my serious reaction to bloat, it would seem estrogen is high in me, lot of aromatisation, which the masteron limited. But then the higher dose of arimidex and masteron added back in has my night woods stopped.

Is my estrogen high, or low?

God I need to get a panel done. Trying to find a Japanese doc that will do it without raising questions.