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Tren and test dosages...

i like to run tren alone. dryer gains.

some of you that insist on stacking tren with test should try tren alone sometime, you might fall in love with that strategy.

Stevesmi besides the dryness what's your reason for running it without test. Also what kind of dosage do you run and what other compounds (I.e. mast, eq, etc...)
 
Great thread, I'm currently running

Test prop-600mg week
Tren ace-900mg week
Mast prop-600mg week
Just added primo at 400mg a week

And I struggle daily with feeling lethargic and wanna take 2-3 naps a day. By far the worst cycle yet for energy, libido, and overall sense of well being. Also not that motivated in the gym.

I'm gonna up my test to 900mg week and drop the tren to maybe 700mg and see how I feel. If I can't get my energy and well being right I will drop the tren and add winny.

PS-I absolutely love the Trensformation- I'm down to 9%BF on 265lbs. At 6'4" but damn Yo my favorite part of all my previous cycles is missing here! That euphoric positive energy!
 
Great thread, I'm currently running

Test prop-600mg week
Tren ace-900mg week
Mast prop-600mg week
Just added primo at 400mg a week

And I struggle daily with feeling lethargic and wanna take 2-3 naps a day. By far the worst cycle yet for energy, libido, and overall sense of well being. Also not that motivated in the gym.

I'm gonna up my test to 900mg week and drop the tren to maybe 700mg and see how I feel. If I can't get my energy and well being right I will drop the tren and add winny.

PS-I absolutely love the Trensformation- I'm down to 9%BF on 265lbs. At 6'4" but damn Yo my favorite part of all my previous cycles is missing here! That euphoric positive energy!

Wow...big boy lol. Why not just up the test and leave tren at current level (both 900mg/week)? Also want to ask why such a high dose of tren? I am assuming you are a long term user of it??
 
Tried it with 1 gram of Test and 700mg Tren (closer to 800 since I fill passed the 10iu mark on the slin pin). Then lowered the Test to 450. Then increased it to 750. I'm running my test right now at 750 so the test:tren is about 1:1. Everything is going great. I just noticed I wasn't as large with lower test. I'd put the test up to a gram again but my bodyhair was getting too thick.

Only problem I have is severe lethargy. I can sleep all day long if I had a day off of work. My girl hates me for it. The minute I sit down and watch TV I just pass out. Even while driving I struggle to keep my eyes open. Otherwise the cycle is excellent. Also running EQ 600mg EW and Dbol 40mg ED
 
there is no need to run it one way or the other.. some like a lot of test in a cycle.. some dont..

some can run high mg of tren and others cant

id say that the most important aspect of combining these two is controlling both progesterone and estrogen.. you gotta find out what supp works best for you to control these.. id say give forma a try especially if you arent running crazy high dosages
 
Great thread, I'm currently running

Test prop-600mg week
Tren ace-900mg week
Mast prop-600mg week
Just added primo at 400mg a week

And I struggle daily with feeling lethargic and wanna take 2-3 naps a day. By far the worst cycle yet for energy, libido, and overall sense of well being. Also not that motivated in the gym.

I'm gonna up my test to 900mg week and drop the tren to maybe 700mg and see how I feel. If I can't get my energy and well being right I will drop the tren and add winny.

PS-I absolutely love the Trensformation- I'm down to 9%BF on 265lbs. At 6'4" but damn Yo my favorite part of all my previous cycles is missing here! That euphoric positive energy!

with those stats you should be a LB in the NFL. post up a pic cause your stats are not believeable.. you would be the biggest guy on this site at 265 pounds and 9% body fat. Ross weighs 50 pounds less and he is built like a freight train.

you are lethargic cause your blood pressure is sky high on those doses and at your body weight. also where is your caber? upping your test is only gonna make your bp goes even higher. testosterone has side effects ya know
 
Stevesmi besides the dryness what's your reason for running it without test. Also what kind of dosage do you run and what other compounds (I.e. mast, eq, etc...)

several reasons.

I don't like running more than a gram a week of juice. if you start stacking things you quickly will go over. I let my training and diet dictate my gains, and i like to run a small amount of juice to give me a nudge, not run 3 grams of juice and depend on that.

also testosterone has side effects of its own. high blood pressure, insomnia, bloat, lethargy, increased appetite. not always good things for guys who like to focus on their workouts and keep a strict diet.

I am not anti-test.. i just ran a test only cycle. but if i have to choose between a tren only and test only i choose tren anyday for cutting.
 
several reasons.

I don't like running more than a gram a week of juice. if you start stacking things you quickly will go over. I let my training and diet dictate my gains, and i like to run a small amount of juice to give me a nudge, not run 3 grams of juice and depend on that.

also testosterone has side effects of its own. high blood pressure, insomnia, bloat, lethargy, increased appetite. not always good things for guys who like to focus on their workouts and keep a strict diet.

I am not anti-test.. i just ran a test only cycle. but if i have to choose between a tren only and test only i choose tren anyday for cutting.

Nice! Always great to hear guys doing things that most people would argue against (as long as they are well thought out and proper knowledge is in place) to see how it actually works and how the individual responds.

Btw stevesmi how is your current cycle going?
 
several reasons.

I don't like running more than a gram a week of juice. if you start stacking things you quickly will go over. I let my training and diet dictate my gains, and i like to run a small amount of juice to give me a nudge, not run 3 grams of juice and depend on that.

also testosterone has side effects of its own. high blood pressure, insomnia, bloat, lethargy, increased appetite. not always good things for guys who like to focus on their workouts and keep a strict diet.

I am not anti-test.. i just ran a test only cycle. but if i have to choose between a tren only and test only i choose tren anyday for cutting.

How's recovery from tren only..?
And you don't feel "more" shut down, and different without the libido kick of test base? I'm curious as to how it works coz in theory sounds good but I sorta thought test helps to "smooth" out the cycle.. Sides and such by having a base when the tren finishes and you're left shutdown crazy.

Also how long you run a tren only brother?
Cheers!
 
Nice! Always great to hear guys doing things that most people would argue against (as long as they are well thought out and proper knowledge is in place) to see how it actually works and how the individual responds.

Btw stevesmi how is your current cycle going?

I am not on any cycle man. I plan on starting a cycle in the next couple months. i'm all natty for now
 
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